2020 NFL Draft: Saints Prospects

AsylumGuido · 02-14-2020, 02:10 PM

In my opinion the lack of pressure after both Davenport and Rankins went down contributed more to the big plays down field than any breakdowns in the secondary. Even the best of DB's have a problem staying with a good receiver 30-40 yards down field if the QB has time to make the throw. Having more quality depth all across the defensive line is needed.

jeanpierre · 02-14-2020, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Wisconsin LB Zack Baun... Now this guy has my attention. He was a 3-4 OLB but showed tremendous agility and football IQ dropping back and playing in space. Some are saying he could thrive as a Lorenzo Alexander type who lines up as a 4-3 Sam LB who can also rush the passer in sub-packages.

Very much like Vince Biegel...

jeanpierre · 02-14-2020, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

In my opinion the lack of pressure after both Davenport and Rankins went down contributed more to the big plays down field than any breakdowns in the secondary. Even the best of DB's have a problem staying with a good receiver 30-40 yards down field if the QB has time to make the throw. Having more quality depth all across the defensive line is needed.

Malcolm Brown really disappeared down the stretch last season - in training camp he was wowing all the local media columnists...

ChrisXVI · 02-14-2020, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

In my opinion the lack of pressure after both Davenport and Rankins went down contributed more to the big plays down field than any breakdowns in the secondary. Even the best of DB's have a problem staying with a good receiver 30-40 yards down field if the QB has time to make the throw. Having more quality depth all across the defensive line is needed.

Yes sir, and with Sheldon Rankins going into the last year of his deal I think D-Line depth is a sneaky need. This is a terrible draft class for edge rushers unfortunately.

jeanpierre · 02-14-2020, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Yes sir, and with Sheldon Rankins going into the last year of his deal I think D-Line depth is a sneaky need. This is a terrible draft class for edge rushers unfortunately.

Well, in the overall perspective, the two previous years were rather unusual in the dearth of talent - they were truly special years for the position...

We unnecessarily move up in a deep DE draft for Davenport, a fine talent, but there's similar production and more GPs by players taken later in that draft...

As bad as the need for a WRz threat downfield to open the field up for Michael Thomas and Jared Cook, we don't need to move up in round 1 for a WR...

ChrisXVI · 02-14-2020, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Very much like Vince Biegel...

That’s true. We don’t seem to have the ability to utilize those hybrid front seven players.

K Major · 02-14-2020, 03:00 PM

Netane Muti - OG Fresno State

Not a sexy draft pick but we really need to improve in the trenches.

The Good : He's nasty, an animal, naturally powerful & moved D lineman against their will vs Bama as a freshman. Some have compared him to Quenton Nelson ... that's ridiculously high praise.

The Bad: He's injury prone, not durable, could miss a lot of games.
Did I mention he's injury prone? ....

K Major · 02-14-2020, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

As bad as the need for a WRz threat downfield to open the field up for Michael Thomas and Jared Cook, we don't need to move up in round 1 for a WR...[/B]

If this WR group is good as most scouts are saying, we can get one in later rounds. I hope we are targeting a O lineman ... early. We got our a** kicked in the trenches vs the Vikings.

Winning in the playoffs start in the trenches. Just imagine if another R Ramz falls to us late in the 1st round?

A big nasty please.

halloween 65 · 02-14-2020, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Malcolm Brown really disappeared down the stretch last season - in training camp he was wowing all the local media columnists...

Same thing he did when he was with the Pats. I wasn't one who loved this move in the first place.

AsylumGuido · 02-14-2020, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Malcolm Brown really disappeared down the stretch last season - in training camp he was wowing all the local media columnists...

To me it appeared Brown was more effective against the run than the pass. Wasn't that pretty much his forte?

02-14-2020, 02:10 PM	#261
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,391	Re: 2020 NFL Draft: Saints Prospects In my opinion the lack of pressure after both Davenport and Rankins went down contributed more to the big plays down field than any breakdowns in the secondary. Even the best of DB's have a problem staying with a good receiver 30-40 yards down field if the QB has time to make the throw. Having more quality depth all across the defensive line is needed. ChrisXVI likes this.

02-14-2020, 02:28 PM	#262
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2020 NFL Draft: Saints Prospects Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Wisconsin LB Zack Baun... Now this guy has my attention. He was a 3-4 OLB but showed tremendous agility and football IQ dropping back and playing in space. Some are saying he could thrive as a Lorenzo Alexander type who lines up as a 4-3 Sam LB who can also rush the passer in sub-packages. Very much like Vince Biegel... ChrisXVI likes this.

02-14-2020, 02:30 PM	#263
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2020 NFL Draft: Saints Prospects Originally Posted by AsylumGuido In my opinion the lack of pressure after both Davenport and Rankins went down contributed more to the big plays down field than any breakdowns in the secondary. Even the best of DB's have a problem staying with a good receiver 30-40 yards down field if the QB has time to make the throw. Having more quality depth all across the defensive line is needed. Malcolm Brown really disappeared down the stretch last season - in training camp he was wowing all the local media columnists...

02-14-2020, 02:49 PM	#264
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2020 NFL Draft: Saints Prospects Originally Posted by AsylumGuido In my opinion the lack of pressure after both Davenport and Rankins went down contributed more to the big plays down field than any breakdowns in the secondary. Even the best of DB's have a problem staying with a good receiver 30-40 yards down field if the QB has time to make the throw. Having more quality depth all across the defensive line is needed. Yes sir, and with Sheldon Rankins going into the last year of his deal I think D-Line depth is a sneaky need. This is a terrible draft class for edge rushers unfortunately.

02-14-2020, 02:54 PM	#265
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2020 NFL Draft: Saints Prospects Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Yes sir, and with Sheldon Rankins going into the last year of his deal I think D-Line depth is a sneaky need. This is a terrible draft class for edge rushers unfortunately. Well, in the overall perspective, the two previous years were rather unusual in the dearth of talent - they were truly special years for the position... We unnecessarily move up in a deep DE draft for Davenport, a fine talent, but there's similar production and more GPs by players taken later in that draft... As bad as the need for a WRz threat downfield to open the field up for Michael Thomas and Jared Cook, we don't need to move up in round 1 for a WR...

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02-14-2020, 02:57 PM	#266
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2020 NFL Draft: Saints Prospects Originally Posted by jeanpierre Very much like Vince Biegel... That’s true. We don’t seem to have the ability to utilize those hybrid front seven players.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,018 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2020 NFL Draft: Saints Prospects Netane Muti - OG Fresno State Not a sexy draft pick but we really need to improve in the trenches. The Good : He's nasty, an animal, naturally powerful & moved D lineman against their will vs Bama as a freshman. Some have compared him to Quenton Nelson ... that's ridiculously high praise. The Bad: He's injury prone, not durable, could miss a lot of games. Did I mention he's injury prone? ....

02-14-2020, 03:14 PM	#268
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,018 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2020 NFL Draft: Saints Prospects Originally Posted by jeanpierre As bad as the need for a WRz threat downfield to open the field up for Michael Thomas and Jared Cook, we don't need to move up in round 1 for a WR...[/B] If this WR group is good as most scouts are saying, we can get one in later rounds. I hope we are targeting a O lineman ... early. We got our a** kicked in the trenches vs the Vikings. Winning in the playoffs start in the trenches. Just imagine if another R Ramz falls to us late in the 1st round? A big nasty please.

02-14-2020, 03:14 PM	#269
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: 2020 NFL Draft: Saints Prospects Originally Posted by jeanpierre Malcolm Brown really disappeared down the stretch last season - in training camp he was wowing all the local media columnists... Same thing he did when he was with the Pats. I wasn't one who loved this move in the first place.

02-14-2020, 04:06 PM	#270
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,391	Re: 2020 NFL Draft: Saints Prospects Originally Posted by jeanpierre Malcolm Brown really disappeared down the stretch last season - in training camp he was wowing all the local media columnists... To me it appeared Brown was more effective against the run than the pass. Wasn't that pretty much his forte?

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