Early Mock Draft Has Saints Picking An LSU WR?

AsylumGuido · 01-28-2020, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

Did I say Teddy was exceptional? Did I not say I was NOT in favor of him as the heir apparent? The point was that the team did not suffer with him in there, over Brees. Not once Payton let him play.

Who will be more exceptional than Brees, right now? Gee, I don't know Guido, let's go shake a magic 8-ball and maybe we'll find the answer. The Saints will have to figure it out. Because what they have now, is NOT exceptional, anymore. You don't make a change because the future is guaranteed to be successful. You make changes because when something, or someone is deteriorating, it IS a guarantee that you will fail if you do nothing about it.

Sorry, but even at this point in his career, Brees is far more exceptional than 80%-90% of the QB's in the NFL today. Is he as exceptional as he was in the past? Of course not. But, what makes you think we can pull someone out of our asses that will be better than him in the next few years? All I am saying is don't force him out as long as he is still one of the best in the league. Which he is!

K Major · 01-28-2020, 06:17 PM

Sorry Smash, I didn't mean to hijack the thread.

And I still like Jefferson

AsylumGuido · 01-28-2020, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

That's just it Burn. TEAM.

I'm rolling with the New Orleans Saints and not the New Orleans Brees.

Believe or not, there will be life after Drew. He's 41.

For me it's getting kind of stale having to worry how much time he has left with us, and at this point I'll be ok with whatever he decides to do this season. When the quarterback position is cheap (Ravens/Texas/Chiefs), you can throw money around to other needed skill positions on both sides of the ball.

It's time for the Saints to "hit" on another QB and I hope we draft one early.

Hitting happens all the time, right? What's this, the second time in 53 years now for the Saints? And what did the other one get us? We are just as likely to take another 25 years to find another as good as Brees is today. At 41 years old he is still one of the very best in the NFL today. Realize that FACT.

st thomas · 01-28-2020, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I'll catch up later. Need to prepare dinner.

I mean that’s funny AG clock in later please lol

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Lord_Saint83 · 01-28-2020, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

That's just it Burn. TEAM.

I'm rolling with the New Orleans Saints and not the New Orleans Brees.

Believe or not, there will be life after Drew. He's 41.

For me it's getting kind of stale having to worry how much time he has left with us, and at this point I'll be ok with whatever he decides to do this season. When the quarterback position is cheap (Ravens/Texas/Chiefs), you can throw money around to other needed skill positions on both sides of the ball.

It's time for the Saints to "hit" on another QB and I hope we draft one early.

I agree, drew will be done soon and some want to wait after he leaves to draft a qb its too late by then. We gotta play the long game. Imma Saints fan above anything or one else. I just hope drew would not pull a brett favre and not help coach the guy. That said we got a real good leader in demario that i feel with all my heart can be the leader that drew is.

burningmetal · 01-28-2020, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Armstead had the worst case. Others across the team were recovering and suffering as well. And Bridgewater is not an answer. Payton KNOWS he can't go air raid with him at all. Same with Hill. Six for thirteen passing in his career. Wow!!

And the winning formula was NOT the offense when Brees was out. It was the defense playing out of their asses.

Again, I did NOT say Bridgewater is an answer, and I CERTAINLY did not say Hill was. Hill should be a full time receiver. Why is it that you and others keep bringing up the guys on the team, as if they are the only options to replace Drew?

And while Payton might not WANT to go air raid with Bridgewater, at least Teddy can throw it far enough. With Brees, there is no chance. The defense doesn't have to respect the deep ball. That's a problem.

And you blatantly misrepresented my words. I did not say the offensive formula was SOLELY what won those games without Brees. I have repeatedly said "team". I have drilled that point into the ground and somehow you still invented another narrative from what I said.

I said that the formula during Brees' absence was more efficient, not that it was the only reason the team won. And are you even aware of what formula I'm speaking of? Running the ball down the opponents throats, setting up play-action passes (this is what Tennessee did upon the switch to Tannehill, that I referenced earlier) and dominating TIME OF POSSESSION. You know what's a good formula for playing good defense? Not even being on the field. I referenced the lack of consistent ball control way earlier, and I guess that point flew right by you.

AsylumGuido · 01-28-2020, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by st thomas

I mean that’s funny AG clock in later please lol

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AsylumGuido · 01-28-2020, 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83

I agree, drew will be done soon and some want to wait after he leaves to draft a qb its too late by then. We gotta play the long game. Imma Saints fan above anything or one else. I just hope drew would not pull a brett favre and not help coach the guy. That said we got a real good leader in demario that i feel with all my heart can be the leader that drew is.

I am all for drafting a QB to replace Drew. I am against trying to force Drew out while he is our best chance.

st thomas · 01-28-2020, 07:45 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

After almost 32 years of marriage I have cooked almost every single meal ... minus a few when I was recovering from the cancer surgery which I kicked its ass.

That’s awesome man I love to cook also . And a cancer survivor great

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SmashMouth · 01-28-2020, 10:05 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

That's just it Burn. TEAM.

I'm rolling with the New Orleans Saints and not the New Orleans Brees.

Believe or not, there will be life after Drew. He's 41.

For me it's getting kind of stale having to worry how much time he has left with us, and at this point I'll be ok with whatever he decides to do this season. When the quarterback position is cheap (Ravens/Texas/Chiefs), you can throw money around to other needed skill positions on both sides of the ball.

It's time for the Saints to "hit" on another QB and I hope we draft one early.

So Tua?

01-28-2020, 06:16 PM	#61
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: Early Mock Draft Has Saints Picking An LSU WR? Originally Posted by burningmetal Did I say Teddy was exceptional? Did I not say I was NOT in favor of him as the heir apparent? The point was that the team did not suffer with him in there, over Brees. Not once Payton let him play. Who will be more exceptional than Brees, right now? Gee, I don't know Guido, let's go shake a magic 8-ball and maybe we'll find the answer. The Saints will have to figure it out. Because what they have now, is NOT exceptional, anymore. You don't make a change because the future is guaranteed to be successful. You make changes because when something, or someone is deteriorating, it IS a guarantee that you will fail if you do nothing about it. Sorry, but even at this point in his career, Brees is far more exceptional than 80%-90% of the QB's in the NFL today. Is he as exceptional as he was in the past? Of course not. But, what makes you think we can pull someone out of our asses that will be better than him in the next few years? All I am saying is don't force him out as long as he is still one of the best in the league. Which he is! Rugby Saint II likes this.

01-28-2020, 06:17 PM	#62
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,035 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Early Mock Draft Has Saints Picking An LSU WR? Sorry Smash, I didn't mean to hijack the thread. And I still like Jefferson SmashMouth likes this.

01-28-2020, 06:18 PM	#63
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: Early Mock Draft Has Saints Picking An LSU WR? Originally Posted by K Major That's just it Burn. TEAM. I'm rolling with the New Orleans Saints and not the New Orleans Brees. Believe or not, there will be life after Drew. He's 41. For me it's getting kind of stale having to worry how much time he has left with us, and at this point I'll be ok with whatever he decides to do this season. When the quarterback position is cheap (Ravens/Texas/Chiefs), you can throw money around to other needed skill positions on both sides of the ball. It's time for the Saints to "hit" on another QB and I hope we draft one early. Hitting happens all the time, right? What's this, the second time in 53 years now for the Saints? And what did the other one get us? We are just as likely to take another 25 years to find another as good as Brees is today. At 41 years old he is still one of the very best in the NFL today. Realize that FACT.

01-28-2020, 06:23 PM	#64
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Early Mock Draft Has Saints Picking An LSU WR? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I'll catch up later. Need to prepare dinner. I mean that’s funny AG clock in later please lol Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

01-28-2020, 06:23 PM	#65
Lord_Saint83 100% Blunt Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Saint Gabriel, La Posts: 2,754	Re: Early Mock Draft Has Saints Picking An LSU WR? Originally Posted by K Major That's just it Burn. TEAM. I'm rolling with the New Orleans Saints and not the New Orleans Brees. Believe or not, there will be life after Drew. He's 41. For me it's getting kind of stale having to worry how much time he has left with us, and at this point I'll be ok with whatever he decides to do this season. When the quarterback position is cheap (Ravens/Texas/Chiefs), you can throw money around to other needed skill positions on both sides of the ball. It's time for the Saints to "hit" on another QB and I hope we draft one early. I agree, drew will be done soon and some want to wait after he leaves to draft a qb its too late by then. We gotta play the long game. Imma Saints fan above anything or one else. I just hope drew would not pull a brett favre and not help coach the guy. That said we got a real good leader in demario that i feel with all my heart can be the leader that drew is. burningmetal likes this.

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01-28-2020, 06:28 PM	#66
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,905 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Early Mock Draft Has Saints Picking An LSU WR? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Armstead had the worst case. Others across the team were recovering and suffering as well. And Bridgewater is not an answer. Payton KNOWS he can't go air raid with him at all. Same with Hill. Six for thirteen passing in his career. Wow!! And the winning formula was NOT the offense when Brees was out. It was the defense playing out of their asses. Again, I did NOT say Bridgewater is an answer, and I CERTAINLY did not say Hill was. Hill should be a full time receiver. Why is it that you and others keep bringing up the guys on the team, as if they are the only options to replace Drew? And while Payton might not WANT to go air raid with Bridgewater, at least Teddy can throw it far enough. With Brees, there is no chance. The defense doesn't have to respect the deep ball. That's a problem. And you blatantly misrepresented my words. I did not say the offensive formula was SOLELY what won those games without Brees. I have repeatedly said "team". I have drilled that point into the ground and somehow you still invented another narrative from what I said. I said that the formula during Brees' absence was more efficient, not that it was the only reason the team won. And are you even aware of what formula I'm speaking of? Running the ball down the opponents throats, setting up play-action passes (this is what Tennessee did upon the switch to Tannehill, that I referenced earlier) and dominating TIME OF POSSESSION. You know what's a good formula for playing good defense? Not even being on the field. I referenced the lack of consistent ball control way earlier, and I guess that point flew right by you.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

01-28-2020, 06:49 PM	#67
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: Early Mock Draft Has Saints Picking An LSU WR? Originally Posted by st thomas I mean that’s funny AG clock in later please lol Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk After almost 32 years of marriage I have cooked almost every single meal ... minus a few when I was recovering from the cancer surgery which I kicked its ass. SmashMouth, Rugby Saint II and st thomas like this.

01-28-2020, 06:51 PM	#68
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: Early Mock Draft Has Saints Picking An LSU WR? Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 I agree, drew will be done soon and some want to wait after he leaves to draft a qb its too late by then. We gotta play the long game. Imma Saints fan above anything or one else. I just hope drew would not pull a brett favre and not help coach the guy. That said we got a real good leader in demario that i feel with all my heart can be the leader that drew is. I am all for drafting a QB to replace Drew. I am against trying to force Drew out while he is our best chance.

01-28-2020, 07:45 PM	#69
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Early Mock Draft Has Saints Picking An LSU WR? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido After almost 32 years of marriage I have cooked almost every single meal ... minus a few when I was recovering from the cancer surgery which I kicked its ass. That’s awesome man I love to cook also . And a cancer survivor great Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk SmashMouth and Rugby Saint II like this.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 36,985 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Early Mock Draft Has Saints Picking An LSU WR? Originally Posted by K Major That's just it Burn. TEAM. I'm rolling with the New Orleans Saints and not the New Orleans Brees. Believe or not, there will be life after Drew. He's 41. For me it's getting kind of stale having to worry how much time he has left with us, and at this point I'll be ok with whatever he decides to do this season. When the quarterback position is cheap (Ravens/Texas/Chiefs), you can throw money around to other needed skill positions on both sides of the ball. It's time for the Saints to "hit" on another QB and I hope we draft one early. So Tua?

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