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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Look, I defended Brooks for the first 2-3 years he was our starting quarterback. Everyone complained about him and I was always the one blaming the offensive line. As I grew older and more mature, I learned more about football ...

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Old 08-16-2005, 03:42 AM   #1
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Bashing Brooks

Look, I defended Brooks for the first 2-3 years he was our starting quarterback. Everyone complained about him and I was always the one blaming the offensive line. As I grew older and more mature, I learned more about football and the responsibilties of each player. I watched Saints games and began getting frustrated with Brooks when I realized how immature he was as a quarterback. Yes, I complain about Brooks. Maybe I complain too much sometimes, but I do wish for him to succeed. I probably also focus more on the negative about Brooks' abilities than the positive. So, I would like to apologize for that.

With that said, this next part shows the true mentality of a Saints fan.

Some time ago, a couple of friends, my dad, and I were tossing around the football in my backyard. One of my friends, as a typical young football fan, belts out "Donovan McNabb!" He then proceeds to take a 3 step drop, side step, and throw the football to another friend. That friend followed in the same fashion by saying "Tom Brady," stepping up and throwing the football to me. Naturally, I say "Favre!" I then proceed to escape the invisible rush, throw off my back foot, and deliver a dead on pass to my father. My father then proceeds to say "Aaron Brooks!" He then pulled his arm back to pass and let it rip...backwards.

We all shared in the laugh.

As my years are progressing as a football fan, I'm beginning to believe Aaron Brooks is actually the leader of this football team. What I mean is the team and Brooks can both be described the same way, extremely talented, but makes dumb and immature mistakes.

I don't know how I truely feel about Brooks. He's the best quarterback on our team and he's our quarterback so I should give him my full support. Its just incredibly hard to do when he continues to make simple mistakes...or what they call in baseball, UNFORCED ERRORS.

I think next week I will try to only focus on the positive things Brooks does. Maybe then I can regain some of that "FAITH."
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Old 08-16-2005, 06:32 AM   #2
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Re: Bashing Brooks

Originally Posted by OldiesDJ
My father then proceeds to say "Aaron Brooks!" He then pulled his arm back to pass and let it rip...backwards.

We all shared in the laugh.
Did your dad have that #$@%-eating grin on his face after the throw?

I've always thought that AB chose the proper number for himself...#2...because that's what he plays like...a big 'ol pile of #2.


j/k everyone....unwad your panties now.
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Old 08-16-2005, 06:50 AM   #3
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I myself would be considered a Brooks basher by many -- but in truth I give him a harder time then I would other QB's because of his obvious physical talent and skills. I expect more out of Brooks -- he has the offensive skill players, he has the talent, so why is he so inconsistent. I really think its because of lack of passion throughout the whole game. AB seems to me to go through the motions -- but when we are down and losing he seems to find more passion and heart and plays at another level. Compare that to Favre -- Favre has been known to stink up games at time but the one thing you can never say about him is that he takes some plays for granted. That guy plays his heart out each and every play each and every game. If Brooks did that I think he would be the type of QB he thinks he is.
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Old 08-16-2005, 09:20 AM   #4
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The Brooks bashing must stop.

He's a young player, with some experience he'll eliminate the rookie mistakes and be the greatest QB in the history of the game.
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Old 08-16-2005, 09:45 AM   #5
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I've always thought that AB chose the proper number for himself...#2...because that's what he plays like...a big 'ol pile of #2.
That was a good laugh.
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Old 08-16-2005, 12:21 PM   #6
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A big #2 in a black shirt too.

OMG
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Old 08-16-2005, 12:27 PM   #7
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I didn't think it was that funny.
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Old 08-16-2005, 03:07 PM   #8
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Re: Bashing Brooks

Originally Posted by OldiesDJ
I think next week I will try to only focus on the positive things Brooks does. Maybe then I can regain some of that "FAITH."
Faith is gone, we are on to desperation.

And this thread made me realize the REAL problem. Everyone wants Brooks to step up and be the leader of the team, but in reality the problem is he IS the leader of the team.

How many times have we seen the team pick up on his apathy? How many times have we seen them follow his lead of sloppiness? In stead of marching them onto the field, he leads them in a slow sashay. And it is hard for a team to get fired up to rally and comback from a defecit when you know your QB, the cornerstone of your offense, is wearing clown shoes with cleats.

I am to the point where I really think all the intangibles Brooks brings to the team are all negative. If A Mac or anyone else, really, were under center, I think the team would respond. The QB play might suffer, but the team as a whole, offense or defense, might just rise to the occasion.

Instead of thinking "Brooks effed us again, why try, he'll just do it again if we stop them here. " the defense may get fired up. "The rookie effed up, lets save his bacon and save this game!"

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Old 08-17-2005, 08:55 AM   #9
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RE: Re: Bashing Brooks

You're missing the point BoB. To this day I cannot understand why people cannot see the defense and AB are mutually exclusive. It seems like posters of this board allow only two logic conclusions:

1. AB is a problem, therefore the defense is not.
2. The defense is a problem, therefore AB is not.

Both of those ideas are retarded, IMO.

Here's how it works:

Is the defense a problem? Yes.
Is the defense talented? Yes, except maybe at DT and LB.
So who is to blame? 1. Loomis & Co for not drafting/signing talent at DT or LB for 4 years. 2. Venturi, for taking a fairly talented group of guys and making them the worst defense in the league. 3. Haslett, for allowing Venturi to keep his job.

Is AB a problem? Yes.
Is AB talented? Yes.
So who is to blame? 1. AB, for his lack of leadership, mental blunders, etc. 2. Haslett, for stubbornly sticking with AB above all else, no matter what the situation or how poorly he plays. 3. Loomis, for allowing good QBs to leave and not doing anything to remain competitive at QB.

So there you have it. Imagine that - both AB and the defense are problems. Wow.

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Old 08-17-2005, 09:12 AM   #10
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RE: Re: Bashing Brooks

3. Haslett, for allowing Venturi to keep his job.
I still suspect Benson has a lot to do with Venturi still being DC.

And it is hard for a team to get fired up to rally and comback from a defecit when you know your QB, the cornerstone of your offense, is wearing clown shoes with cleats.
This statement doesn't really support your suggestion since AB is usually at his best when we're down and need a comeback. He has way too many 4th quarter comebacks for this statement to be valid.
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