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jnormand 09-06-2024 11:01 PM

Zach Baun
 
Dude balled tonight for the Eagles. 15 tackles and 2 sacks.

Tell me again why we couldn’t find a way to get this dude more involved? I feel like it’s Trey Hendrickson all over again. Lol

Boston Saint 09-06-2024 11:52 PM

Re: Zach Baun
 
Fair points

K Major 09-07-2024 08:12 AM

Re: Zach Baun
 
I liked Baun when he was here.

To say Dennis is this defensive “guru”, he sure didn’t get the most out of Zach.

Criminally under utilized in NOLA.

BakoSaint 09-07-2024 09:22 AM

Re: Zach Baun
 
Sometimes I feel like our organization has this hubris about drafting and utilizing players creatively out of position so we can brag about the advantages of flexibility and our vision. If a coach has too much ego, making a player switch positions and roles to something that never suited them is a way for that coach to take credit, to suddenly become the one who reinvented that player not just drafted them. We drafted Peat when we already had an entrenched left tackle and made him play most of his career out of position. Same for Ruiz when we already had a Center. On defense we seem to be ruining a promising edge corner in Alontae Taylor by converting him to the slot. I think Baun was a case on defense of trying to reenvision a player and refusing to let them do what they do best. Ultimately the best coaches find players who skills fit their scheme or change their scheme to be utilize their players talents, mediocre coaches just draft the best players and hope it works out, and the worst coaches actively put players out of position because doing what makes sense and everyone else says would be proving another person right.

rezburna 09-07-2024 10:28 AM

Re: Zach Baun
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 1000381)
Sometimes I feel like our organization has this hubris about drafting and utilizing players creatively out of position so we can brag about the advantages of flexibility and our vision. If a coach has too much ego, making a player switch positions and roles to something that never suited them is a way for that coach to take credit, to suddenly become the one who reinvented that player not just drafted them. We drafted Peat when we already had an entrenched left tackle and made him play most of his career out of position. Same for Ruiz when we already had a Center. On defense we seem to be ruining a promising edge corner in Alontae Taylor by converting him to the slot. I think Baun was a case on defense of trying to reenvision a player and refusing to let them do what they do best. Ultimately the best coaches find players who skills fit their scheme or change their scheme to be utilize their players talents, mediocre coaches just draft the best players and hope it works out, and the worst coaches actively put players out of position because doing what makes sense and everyone else says would be proving another person right.

This.

saintsfan1976 09-07-2024 12:09 PM

Re: Zach Baun
 
Dennis Allen is a CB guru and that's about all he's proven.

K Major 09-07-2024 01:38 PM

Re: Zach Baun
 
Take Nick Saldiveri as another example ….

Played extensively @ RT most of his collegiate career.

Not sure why the Saints are so adamant about plugging him in at guard.

leilung 09-08-2024 05:35 AM

Re: Zach Baun
 
The Eagles used Zach as their Mike. Could it be that he was being played out of position when he was in NOLA because we had Demario?

leilung 09-08-2024 07:26 AM

Re: Zach Baun
 
BTW, is anyone else tired of being a Farm Team for the Eagles?
Sproles
Ceedy
Zach

vpheughan 09-09-2024 08:16 AM

Re: Zach Baun
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by leilung (Post 1000394)
BTW, is anyone else tired of being a Farm Team for the Eagles?
Sproles
Ceedy
Zach

As well as being the League Vending Machine for The Safety position. Then turning around and make drafting a "Safety" a priority!


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