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04-23-2010 07:29 PM |
Re: Another guy we can hang...
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Originally Posted by st thomas
(Post 221012)
way back when this thread started someone wrote **** starter lol right then i started not to reply on this matter. o.k. to answer your ? the nfl punnished ben for what ever happened in that bar. ben agreed to the guilt of nfl rules and will take the punnishment, now right there i agree with the punishment that has been handed down. o.k. now for foster i believe i wrote he deserves what the other clowns got. if i said something esle its close to it. meaning if in the scope of the rules of the nfl were broken like ben then he deserves that . thats what i meant.
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Ah - the *#&$ starter was an inside joke.
So, the commish has this to say:
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"As the district attorney concluded, the extensive investigatory record shows that you contributed to the irresponsible consumption of alcohol by purchasing (or facilitating the purchase of) alcoholic beverages for underage college students, at least some of whom were likely already intoxicated.
"There is no question that the excessive consumption of alcohol that evening put the students and yourself at risk. The Personal Conduct Policy also states that discipline is appropriate for conduct that undermines or puts at risk the integrity and reputation of the NFL, NFL clubs, or NFL players. By any measure, your conduct satisfies that standard."
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Agreed, 100% with this statement because the NFL has every right to take action because of this:
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While criminal activity is clearly outside the scope of permissible conduct, and persons who engage in criminal activity will be subject to discipline, the standard of conduct for persons employed in the NFL is considerably higher. It is not enough simply to avoid being found guilty of a crime. Instead, as an employee of the NFL or a member club, you are held to a higher standard and expected to conduct yourself in a way that is responsible, promotes the values upon which the League is based, and is lawful.
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So the NFL doesn't require a conviction, and we all know that, but that isn't the point. Let's move on to the person in THIS thread.
So, Eric Foster may face a civil case, but he will not be charged, much like Ben, but that in no means makes his case the same or even similar to Ben's situation. Michael Irvin is presently charged for the same thing, in a civil case, where the woman making the accusation has dropped her price from 1 million to 800k, and Irvin is counter suing. Should Foster, or Irving, get the same 'punishment' as Ben? Well, I suppose Foster might, because he is still an NFL player, but then again he might not, because the comish will likely want to review all the evidence before he makes a decision, which is something you don't want to take the time to do, right. He's accused, so punish him -- that's what I'm hearing you say. Here's what I take issue with:
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this crap gets to the public then vanishes when the big secret settlements done. does that make ben and foster guilty hell yea
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You don't have any idea if he's guilty. You couldn't possibly know. Remember those Duke Lacross players? By your standard, those guys were guilty of SOMEthing as soon as they were charged. No conviction, but guilty of SOMEthing right out of the box. If you had your way, you would have punished them right? Then what do you do after all the evidence is in and it is shown that the accused is the real victim. Now what?
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