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Never took JCPenny out on a date? LOL. Don't lie either...

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this stuff is unable to bear

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sigh... yes... JCPenny...
Cosmopolitan...

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Confess...confess...it is GOOD fer ya! LOL

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nono.... it was THIS one. Any guy who remembers 1977 had this on his wall.


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3395/...70d3ab40b0.jpg

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My sister had that PILLOW...bought it at Spencers in the Alexandria mall. Pretty tame by today's standards, but man oh man back then?!? Yessir!

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More stupid stuff

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Boy this thread got WAY off track! Anyone else think it funny that we went from underage girls, to people talking about their "wank" habits? Hmmm, I'm starting to worry about some of you guys.... :)

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It's the off season, and ForeverFan's fault at any rate. LOL

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nonono... Its perfectly natural ... you know... for a young boy--- er, young man to .... umm... be curious... uhhh... nothing to be ashamed of... and just know ... that um... you ... you can always ask me anything... a-about... you know... whatever's on your mind... it's perfectly natural...

http://www.bennadel.com/resources/up...erican_pie.jpg

btw, I was discussing ancient history, not current habits.
My new habits are much worse.

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Back on topic.

LT is accused of paying a prostitute for sex. He knew it was illegal. Anything else that happened before and after can make him an "accessory" to those offenses.

Whether he is found guilty is yet to be determined, but is sure to be an example of just how far from justice our system sometimes bends.

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What do you guys think? If convicted, should Hall-of-Famers like L.T. and more notably, O.J. Simpson, be removed from the HOF for this type of after career behavior? I know, he hasn't been convicted yet, and OJ was never convicted. Just wondering what you think.

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No. They aren't Saints. They are football players, or baseball players, etc. What they do on the field warrants (or doesn't warrant) being in their sport's HOF.

And they aren't roll models either. Do you want your kid acting like Mick Jagger? There's no difference. Mommy and Daddy are (or should be) the roll models.

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Whats wrong with Jagger..let the kids rock if they want man...

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damn, i was telling my kids to be like Keith Richard.

I disagree. Bear in mind, I grew up idolizing O.J. (everybody who thinks he didnt kill Nicole, stand on their head.) The Black Sox and Pete Rose did great things on the field. But the HOF is an honor. You should be honorable. Look how Big Ben didnt get charged with anything, but Roger said, "tough, you shamed the game anyway--- so you sit."

LT did awesome things on the field, but he shamed the game off of it.

jmo.

ok, back off topic: "She Bop*, you Bop*, we all Bop*."

*see stinchcomb thread

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I think Mick took "Rocking" to a whole 'nuther level...not that there's anything wrong with that, but he's probably not your a-typical role model.

Hey, my kids can be rock stars if they want. My point is they're rock stars, not role models. A good guitar player does not a role model make. Neither does a good Football player...not due to their abilities as musicians or athletes anyway, unless of course we're talking about occupational role models, in which case Mick and LT are excellent role models. From a moral standpoint not so much.

The problem with any of the HOF's is the criteria isn't straight forward. But if being a thug at some point during one's career was a true limiting factor, the HOF in Ohio would have about half as many members.

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Hmmmm...a Witness for the defense?

NEW YORK -- Lawrence Taylor's attorney says a woman has come forward as a defense witness in the NFL legend's sexual assault case to say he did not rape a 16-year-old girl.

The 23-year-old woman says in a sworn statement given to defense investigators that she accompanied the teen to the Holiday Inn north of New York City, where the girl was to meet Taylor.

She said that the girl returned to the car after the meeting with Taylor with $300 cash, and told her that they did not have sex.

Taylor's lawyer, Arthur Aidala, says he will use the woman's testimony to bolster his case.

The 51-year-old Taylor was charged May 6 with third-degree rape and patronizing a prostitute.

Woman says Taylor did not have sex with teen - ESPN New York

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Can ya really trust what a 16 year old whore sez ???

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Ah ha. Let this be a lesson to all of you who jumped on LT's lynch mob, before the case played out. Not saying guilty, or innocent, either way. I will wait for all of the facts. And really, since chances are, I won't be on the jury, then it's not my place to judge him anyway.

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Didn't you say you are married Mike? If so, I'm sure your self gratifying habits ARE much worse. If it is anything like my marriage was that is....

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I doubt this witness is anything more than someone LT's lawyer is using to create a "reasonable doubt".

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I have reasonable doubt that aliens havent parked at my house, and came in and stole my beer.

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So if they play for New Orleans it is a different story?

LOL :bng:

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REALLY??!! You just put 16 y/o and whore in the same sentence. Why is a 51 y/o man trying to get something that young?! Blame it on the females and how old they look and how great he is because of all his $$ and fame. If his $ and fame are so great than why is he at the Holiday Inn and why does he call a pimp?! Don't know what happened there and will probably never know the real truth. Just wish adults would take responsibility for their f****ed up choices and teach their children how to do the same.....:mad:

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+1...again. It is the oldest profession in the world, for a reason. I'm just not going to judge, which doesn't mean I don't have an opinion, but rather it means I recognize that it is just that - an opinion.

When the facts are clear I think it is likely the only thing LT will be guilty of is paying for sex, and if that proves to be true than he just did it in the wrong state. Legislating morality is a horribly slippery slope ya'll...

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Actually, Law and morality come from the same place, as our laws are based upon certain moral norms, regardless what the college pony-tail professors try to tell you. Our law is also based on precedence, and so using traditional moral standards would actually be a return from where we came, not a slide into any new pits. To legislate a lack of morality would also be setting a moral standard, so you cant get away from somebody's standards becoming the standard for all, just as you cannot truly avoid theocracy of some form, even if it is secularism.

aaagh. enough of that kind of talk-- I'm making myself sick. Philosophy, is the talk on a cereal box. (says Edie B.) -not to mention a waste of time.

Anyway, while I support religious values, and especially people who live a bit cleaner than you and me, I dont care who's naked with whom, unless one of them is a kid... and I think if your arse is all you got for sale, maybe the government should look the other way, kind of like they have during some periods in New Orleans. Some lawbreaking, I couldnt care less about. I break the law every time I drive.

But I dont think we're in any danger of becoming like Iran. We're free for a long time to drink beer, wear jeans, rock and roll, and get nekkid. You may do all of these tonight.

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True Mike - our laws are in part based on a moral 'standard', but that's not legislation necessarily. Sin taxes on smoking, drinking, etc, that's what I mean by legislating morality.

When you speak of 'traditional moral standards', who's tradition do we settle on? What's right for those in the Northeast doesn't fly (necessarily) for those in the southwest. The country is bigger, more diverse than it has ever been, and a common moral ground is, in many ways, next to impossible.

I'm not arguing for prostitution...far from it, but I think we have to recognize the difficulty involved in getting this country to settle on a moral standard.

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No mix church and state...make strato irate...

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Initially, there are too many cultures, and sub-cultures in the United States now, to where you are going to be able to please them all. Especially on a "moral" view. Isn't it weird how people come to this country, to get away from the culture they were born and raised in, only to bring that same culture, and value system with them? Crazy. Back to topic, my problem with alot of people in this country, is that they run around with American flags, screaming SUPPORT THE SYSTEM. Then, instead of waiting for all of the facts to come out, they form their opinions, based on initial facts, before the trial even starts. Now, if I am to support, "the system", I believe it's written that we are "innocent, until proven guilty", not the other way around. And don't give me that, well that's just the way it is crap. If you support our legal system, then get the interpretation down first. Because if that's just the way it is, then you are going out on your own limb of justice, not the way it's supposed to be.

Until the D.A. decides to prosecute, this isn't even a crime yet! Now maybe I missed something, and they already announced that they are pursuing it, but if not, then guess what? Innocent, until proven guilty. I didn't write it, but I damn sure support it.

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I never scream support the system. I hate the system. Court is always a bad experience for me.

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LMAO. Cuff that guy!

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A little more CHURCH and a little Less State might be Great.

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I dunno. I agree with what I believe is the spirit of this (no pun intended), but I don't want the Church up in my bid'ness any more than I want the state there.

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Yeah I dont want dem in my bidness either but think if more of us made dem our bidness if you will. wed have lesss need for these discussions. ie this thread

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I'd like to think so, but then there were all those witch hunts and the inquisition and all that jazz, church sponsored of course, that forces me to be juuuuuust a bit extra cautious when it comes to the church. They all want you to live like THEY live...kinda like California. LMAO

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church is voluntary. state is mandatory, and demands a larger tithe.

I dont understand people's fear of church. All I saw was a bunch of old ladies, and a lot of really good home cooked food. They made me feel welcome, and didnt seem all that oppressive.

My grandma wasnt really much the "atrocity" type.

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I don't think it's fear, just a desire not to repeat the mistakes committed by those that have gone before. Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely, state, church, Hitler, etc. LOL

Tell you what tho, those Pentecostal ladies in Leesville made the best hot tamales I ever did eat. But they'd gitup in yer bidness too.

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that is the biggest problem with religion....if they werent preaching then they wouldnt be oppressing

religions like christianity teach people that god is the only god...the only way

they teach that calling god anything other than god is unacceptable and subconsciously create a prejudice against other religions

how would you like it if god's name was uglypieceof****? nah....thats not right....his/her/its name is god

i hate religions because they separate you from your neighbors and friends who are otherwise no different

is belief important? nah.....budhism teaches that the only important thing about religion is faith.....nothing else really matters.....but even some people ive talked to about that are offended by the fact that god is some fat rolly polly naked guy......WTF

state separates people because of how it affects people differently in life......church separates people because of how it supposedly affects people after life.....which might not even exist anyway

sorry for changing the subject almost completely but i had to get my 2 cents in.....(as always)

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Well you're going straight to hell for that...LMAO

:flame:


Say hello to :saddam: when you get there. muah hah hah hah...

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i just dont wanna have to pick pineapples