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Vrillon82 08-19-2012 08:59 AM

Falcons, are they easier prey for us under Koetter than Mularkey?
 
hearing Vitts press conference yesterday, he talked about how it was hard to contain the Falcons offense at the start of a game due to those same tackling issues, according to Vitt he wasnt surprised about the tackling issues because apparently this happens under Mularkeys offense and the Saints never spent an entire week like they normally would vs the Falcons to prepare the defense vs Mularkey.

Basically what I think was poor play vs the Jaguars is probably nothing to be concerned about at all.

But breaking down Koetter and Mularkey, I told Falcon fans this and the dumb breed of fans they are wont believe it, but I believe Mularkey got what blood he could out of the turnip with the Atl offense and I am into the belief that Koetter might be worse than Mularkey was. I mean Blaine Gabbert under Mularkey just in this preseason looked alot better than he did last year vs the Saints, Koetter in JAX made that entire team very Anemic.

Thoughts?

|Mitch| 08-19-2012 09:03 AM

Re: Falcons, are they easier prey for us under Koetter than Mularkey?
 
There's a reason Mularkey is a head coach and Koetter isn't... and yes Mularkey is a better QB coach it seems

ScottF 08-19-2012 09:05 AM

Re: Falcons, are they easier prey for us under Koetter than Mularkey?
 
Poor tackling goes back to fundamentals, and let's face it, we have not tackled well for a couple of years. I think it goes back to who we are drafting; Porter was a decent corner but a poor tackler, and the jury is out our current CB's
And yes, it does seem like we always start slowly against Atl, but our offense usually comes back quickly, and often.

4thqtrsaint 08-19-2012 04:53 PM

Re: Falcons, are they easier prey for us under Koetter than Mularkey?
 
My 2 cents: If the Saints had tackled better, we wouldn't be having this thread. We won't really know how good Mularkey is until the regular season. Gabbert v Vanilla > Gabbert v Scheme.

As far as Koetter... If he is worse than Mularkey, Julio Jones will apparently balance that a bit. I hate that he's been this good, but he is. My question on Koetter is where is their run game? He doesn't have MJD anymore. And if the Falcunts are gonna try to start ball-slingin' like the Saints, Matty Schwartzenfaker is gonna melt down by the end of the season.

JMHO

atltillidie 08-19-2012 05:09 PM

Re: Falcons, are they easier prey for us under Koetter than Mularkey?
 
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Originally Posted by 4thqtrsaint (Post 429358)
My 2 cents: If the Saints had tackled better, we wouldn't be having this thread. We won't really know how good Mularkey is until the regular season. Gabbert v Vanilla > Gabbert v Scheme.

As far as Koetter... If he is worse than Mularkey, Julio Jones will apparently balance that a bit. I hate that he's been this good, but he is. My question on Koetter is where is their run game? He doesn't have MJD anymore. And if the Falcunts are gonna try to start ball-slingin' like the Saints, Matty Schwartzenfaker is gonna melt down by the end of the season.

JMHO

We are, and so far it's been working pretty well for us. Did you honestly expect us to keep leaning on an 30 year old back? We need to keep him fresh.

We're only going to run about 20 times each game at the most. The carries will be shared between Turner, JacQuizz Rodgers, and Jason Snelling when he gets back.

Vrillon82 08-19-2012 05:31 PM

Re: Falcons, are they easier prey for us under Koetter than Mularkey?
 
But the real question is when the Falcons get out of the preseason and into the regular season vs teams, will the passing offense under Matt Ryan work when they are behind and need to throw the ball and defenses anticipate it?

atltillidie 08-19-2012 05:58 PM

Re: Falcons, are they easier prey for us under Koetter than Mularkey?
 
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Originally Posted by Vrillon82 (Post 429370)
But the real question is when the Falcons get out of the preseason and into the regular season vs teams, will the passing offense under Matt Ryan work when they are behind and need to throw the ball and defenses anticipate it?

I we're about to find out in about 2 weeks if we end up behind against the Chiefs. He hasn't disapointed so far.

The Dude 08-19-2012 07:49 PM

Re: Falcons, are they easier prey for us under Koetter than Mularkey?
 
Everyone is saying the Falcons are SO much better this year. Why do they say this every year? Yea they have some scary elements on their team, but so do we. Falcons have new systems on Offense and Defense, I hope we get some good film on them before we play them.

Vrillon82 08-19-2012 07:52 PM

Re: Falcons, are they easier prey for us under Koetter than Mularkey?
 
One of the things I would be concerned about if I were a Falcon fan (thank goodness I am not)

Is the fact that maybe the Falcons offense in preseason is looking a little TOO good.

You look at the rest of the NFL elite/almost elite teams this preseason, none of them look great, quite frankly they rarely do until regular season.

I tend to believe what goes on in preseason is almost a 180 to what goes on in regular season.

|Mitch| 08-19-2012 07:54 PM

Re: Falcons, are they easier prey for us under Koetter than Mularkey?
 
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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 429408)
Falcons have new systems on Offense and Defense, I hope we get some good film on them before we play them.

We don't play them until week 10, if we don't have good film on them by then something's wrong...

The Dude 08-19-2012 07:59 PM

Re: Falcons, are they easier prey for us under Koetter than Mularkey?
 
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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 429410)
We don't play them until week 10, if we don't have good film on them by then something's wrong...

True. By then someone will have laid out a blue print on how to beat them.

atltillidie 08-19-2012 09:07 PM

Re: Falcons, are they easier prey for us under Koetter than Mularkey?
 
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Originally Posted by Vrillon82 (Post 429409)
One of the things I would be concerned about if I were a Falcon fan (thank goodness I am not)

Is the fact that maybe the Falcons offense in preseason is looking a little TOO good.

You look at the rest of the NFL elite/almost elite teams this preseason, none of them look great, quite frankly they rarely do until regular season.

I tend to believe what goes on in preseason is almost a 180 to what goes on in regular season.

The Jets will be a juggernaut if what you're saying is true.

4thqtrsaint 08-19-2012 10:47 PM

Re: Falcons, are they easier prey for us under Koetter than Mularkey?
 
IMO, the Falcons did nothing to get better. I doubt Dent will be an improvement over Lofton. Asante Samuel can't cover everybody. And people say the knock on the Saints D is they are learning a new system, yet nobody says that about ATL learning a new system on offense. Their passing may be better.

I see them as stagnant. I think the rest of the division got better. The only hurdle the Saints have is no Payton, but they have the guys in place to maintain enough continuity to be highly competitive. I'm more worried about Carolina taking the division than ATL.

Vrillon82 08-20-2012 08:46 AM

Re: Falcons, are they easier prey for us under Koetter than Mularkey?
 
Its still Atlanta because I put this in another post about the schedule making.

Falcons the last 2-3 years and for the next 2 years get all tough opponents inside their dome.

This year is no exception, Saints is the only tough team they going on the road for.

This is why they been as high competitive the last 2-3 years as they have been outside the fact they never get injured hardly.

atltillidie 08-20-2012 05:31 PM

Re: Falcons, are they easier prey for us under Koetter than Mularkey?
 
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Originally Posted by 4thqtrsaint (Post 429472)
IMO, the Falcons did nothing to get better. I doubt Dent will be an improvement over Lofton. Asante Samuel can't cover everybody. And people say the knock on the Saints D is they are learning a new system, yet nobody says that about ATL learning a new system on offense. Their passing may be better.

I see them as stagnant. I think the rest of the division got better. The only hurdle the Saints have is no Payton, but they have the guys in place to maintain enough continuity to be highly competitive. I'm more worried about Carolina taking the division than ATL.

Scheme changes made a big difference for us so far. The Panthers haven't even won a game against us under Cam Newton.

SaintsBro 08-21-2012 02:33 PM

Re: Falcons, are they easier prey for us under Koetter than Mularkey?
 
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Originally Posted by atltillidie (Post 429723)
The Panthers haven't even won a game against us under Cam Newton.

Join the club. It's not that difficult to do. Is this one of those things like back-to-back winning seasons, that only a Falcons fan thinks is a really big deal.

Vrillon82 08-21-2012 08:54 PM

Re: Falcons, are they easier prey for us under Koetter than Mularkey?
 
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Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 430032)
Join the club. It's not that difficult to do. Is this one of those things like back-to-back winning seasons, that only a Falcons fan thinks is a really big deal.

They got low standards.

a Division champ in 2010 was like a SB to them.

as for the Panthers, I dont think they have beaten us since 2009 season unless I am mistaken and we dropped 1 to them late in the 2010 season.

Vrillon82 08-21-2012 08:56 PM

Re: Falcons, are they easier prey for us under Koetter than Mularkey?
 
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Originally Posted by atltillidie (Post 429439)
The Jets will be a juggernaut if what you're saying is true.

nahh, they will be better on offense than what they have showed.

They never good to begin with in regular season, so you can imagine what they will look like in the preseason in vanilla mode.

ScottF 08-22-2012 01:21 PM

Re: Falcons, are they easier prey for us under Koetter than Mularkey?
 
Falcons to crank up air show starring Julio Jones, Roddy White and a stronger Matt Ryan - Yahoo! Sports

Yahoo loving the Falcons. I'll repeat what has been asked, what is different this year? OC? who says it's an improvement? Turner and Gonzales are a year older, and they didn't add anyone.
I guess I don't see how X + 0 is > X

Vrillon82 08-22-2012 08:11 PM

Re: Falcons, are they easier prey for us under Koetter than Mularkey?
 
Yahoo has sucked the Falcons cock big this year.

Everytime I turn around its Matt Ryan this, Matt Ryan that. Draft him at the top of your fantasy team, all that bull.

We wont know anything about the Falcons until the regular season begins, their 3rd preseason game which is the most meaningful game, is against the lousy Dolphins.


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