Reggie Bush compares Matthew Stafford to Drew Brees
 

In the past, Reggie Bush has compared the Detroit Lions' offensive style to the type of offense he played in with the New Orleans Saints. This week, he made another comparison between the Lions and Saints, this time at the quarterback position.

Specifically, Bush said that Lions quarterback Matthew Stafford reminds him of Saints quarterback Drew Brees, at least when Brees first arrived in New Orleans. Bush sees a lot of similarities between Stafford right now and Brees at an earlier point in his career. From the Lions' official site:

"Stafford is a really good quarterback and he reminds me a lot of Drew when Drew first got to New Orleans," Bush said Tuesday. "Still young, and has a long ways to go in his career, but he's very talented."

"He's a leader. He's very vocal. He has all the intangibles to be a great quarterback in this league and he already is a great quarterback in this league, so I look forward to playing with him this year."

Aside from being teammates with Bush, what else do Stafford and Brees have in common? Both players threw for more than 10,000 yards over the course of the last two seasons. Brees was actually able to throw for more than 5,000 yards in each of the last two seasons. Stafford came up a bit short of that feat with 4,967 yards passing last season, but both players have shown an ability to sling the ball around, that's for sure.

Reggie Bush compares Matthew Stafford to Drew Brees - Pride Of Detroit

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Stafford does well considering all he's ever had was a passing game.
In the right offense he could be great...

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Really, Bush is just being political and looking for positive press coverage. He's not the only story in Detroit when you have Megatron and Suh on the team.

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He is tying to be relevant.

If he stays healthy, he will have success in Detroit.

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I like Stafford, in a few years he will be one of the premier qb.'s in the league.

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I agree. Stafford will be one of the elite QBs in the league.

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Yes he will.

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Stafford is a good QB,but,a lot of the yardage he has has a lot to do with megaton. I can't tell you how many times I've seen him double (several times even Triple) teamed and still come down with a catch! If you would add a TE like Jimmy Graham and a good run game to that offense.....

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I couldn't agree more, and I'm hoping Reggie can give him a running game. Stafford is the real deal IMO.

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Oh boy, I saw this thread and I thought, "ouch", 656 was opening a big ol' can o' worms, :lol:. But, as usual, my knowledgeable, level-headed B&G bretheren maintained a proper perspective.

It's no secret Detroit is trying to emulate the New Orleans offense and I make comparisons between MatFord (Matthew Stafford) and Drew constantly. For obvious reasons, he loses that matchup, but he does display some of the characteristics that have made Brees one if the 'elite'.

The 'greats' have defining moments, those things fans key on and talk about for years to come. Stafford has had a few. His 5,000yd season (eclipsed that year by Drew, of course, :)) and then following it up with a similiar performance last year. But the one that made me believe Detroit finally found a real gamer at QB was in '09 in a game against the Browns where he was injured on the second-to-last play of the game and then came back in to throw the game-winning touchdown with no time left on the clock ... the kid has 'moxie'. Yeah, it was the '09 Lions vs the Browns and I'm sure I embellish the story a bit, but there was no denying that day, :mrgreen:.

The biggest knock on Stafford was his ability to stay healthy & he's quieted the critics somewhat this past two seasons. Having Megatron to throw to helps quite a bit as well, but when he's "on", he can throw with the best-of-'em. Maybe not as "icy" as the "other-Matt" in the league, but he is calm-under-fire and has shown a lot of composure. With time & experience, I think it's realistic to expect him to develop into a Drew-Brees-caliber QB and had he been given the opportunity to apprentice behind a quality starting QB as in the situation with Rodgers/Favre, I believe the results with Stafford would have been similiar. But, being thrown into the fire builds character, :lol:.

I'm hoping now Reggie tones down the rhetoric a little bit until he's been with the team & gets a few games under his belt. We get it, he's glad to be in Detroit and is optimistic for the future of the franchise ... we've been "getting-it" for 50yrs, Reg'. ;)

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I'm not a fan of Michigan anything.

I've been there and witnessed first hand how much Michaganders like them some Michigan. They'll tell you all about it too.

2dat. Kick some motown butt when the opportunity presents itself... is all I care about Detroit. What a hole.

Stafford is an okay ball thrower. He ain't all that. He isn't a Drew Brees. He whines too much to be in that caliber.

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Agree with you about Stafford, you could see his potential at Georgia.

As far as Reggie, well do I really even need to say anything, lol.

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Not trying to take anything away from Stafford. However I don't see thats its any comparison.

Stafford has had 1 season over 60% and Drew has not had one under 63% since 2004.

Megatron has made Stafford, Drew has made our receivers.

Then there is the running game, If Detroit gets one Staffords pass attempts will go down. Detroit also play a lot from behind which increases his throwing.

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Stafford "Reggie, stop dancing and run north/south"

Reggie "Damn, you yell at me just like Brees"

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Come on Toepick, where and when has Stafford ever been a whiner? Never happened. Next time you're in the "D", give me a shout, I'll give ya' the tour, :rolleyes:.

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The 'greats' have defining moments, those things fans key on and talk about for years to come. Stafford has had a few. His 5,000yd season (eclipsed that year by Drew, of course, :)) and then following it up with a similiar performance last year. But the one that made me believe Detroit finally found a real gamer at QB was in '09 in a game against the Browns where he was injured on the second-to-last play of the game and then came back in to throw the game-winning touchdown with no time left on the clock ... the kid has 'moxie'. Yeah, it was the '09 Lions vs the Browns and I'm sure I embellish the story a bit, but there was no denying that day, :mrgreen:.

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This is what made me a believer in Stafford!

Just the fact that he knew the rule in that situation is impressive enough, but he came back in with a separated shoulder and threw a GW TD will/should be one of the greatest moments in Lions history.

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... and later, in the Lions front office:

Lions Executive VP of Football Operations/General Manager Martin Mayhew: "Reggie, we had a running back that spent a lot of time running east/west before going north/south and that was Barry Sanders. You are no Barry Sanders. Listen to your quarterback". :mrgreen:

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He is no Darren Sproles either!

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Yeah, that's why I kinda' wish Reggie would just stfu until he's made a substantial contribution to the team, :mrgreen:. Motivating yourself & your teammates is a good thing, but writing checks you may not be able to cover is just setting yourself up for a fall.

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We know Bush is capable of doing a lot of good on a team like the Lions.

They already have Stafford and Johnson; Bush is one more scoring threat that a DC has to contend with.

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I believe Detroit is under a RB curse. I thought Kevin would do the job - fail. Then David - fail again.

Cursed and under a spell left by Wayne Fontes.
Matt Millen - EPIC fail.
I also feel Iron Mountain Steve was given a raw deal.

Eliminate the spell and Detroit may have a chance.
For now, consolidate the Vikings and Lions into a team and pick off the good parts...

1. Peterson
2. Bush

!. Stafford
2.

1. Megatron
2. Jennings

Ford Field

Now you have a show to slap down Clay and company. (Sorry, I just don't like Aaron Rogers.)

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Where did the other almost 3,000 yards go then? And lets talk about a qb who threw for even less yards with a more pathetic run game and two wide receivers and a tight end make him look good as well, the other Matt. And well Stafford still threw for more yards. If the lions played in our division they probably would have made the playoffs last year but they played in a division with three teams who were all heavily contending and the lions were the ones who got off to the wrong start and when you trail you don't beat the ones who have more to play for.

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I don't know what your talking about in the first part.


On the second part:
Not intending to vent on you but take it for what it's worth, a prime example of why I don't care to live in Louisiana again.

The laundry list of excuses that never include the reason.

You literally just strung together a list of excuses for why a 4-12 team should have been in the play offs? A 4-12 team? Seriously?

How about "they failed to consistently show up on game day ready to play ball"?

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He's referencing a stat from the "does Stafford make Megatron better?" or "does Megatron make Stafford better?" debate in which Stafford supporters point out that of the approx. 5000yds passing-a-season Stafford has compiled the last two years, approx. only 1800yds per season went to Calvin Johnson. Stafford spread the remaining 3000yds (approx) to the rest of his receiving corps & running backs.

Not too shabby, IMO, no matter how you slice it. :mrgreen:.

As for the observation that if the Lions played in the NFC South they probably would have made the playoffs, I agree. They lost every game in arguably the strongest Division in the NFL last season. Had they been able to play the Bucs & the Panthers twice a year instead of Green Bay, Chicago & a surprising Minnesota, things undoubtedly would have turned out different. I go as far as to suggest they may have even split with the Saints (without Payton) and whatever remaining team in the NFC South I may have forgot to mention. ;)

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There is the infamous "Curse of Bobby Layne", but that was only a 50yr curse and should have expired by now, :lol:. I think it may be a "Ford Motor Company" curse ... they've made a living out of being the #2 auto-maker, second-best, back-of-the-pack, yada-yada-yada and that business acumen has just rubbed off onto their NFL team, :mrgreen:.

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Its not a 1-1 swap, Megatrons yards also come with the caveat that he draws the best d-backs and double teams. That changes the passing dynamic completely. If you take away Megatron then defenses play the Lions differently.

However "if" you just do the 1-1 swap then Stafford has 3003 yards (25th in the NFL), a 79.8 passer rating (22nd in the NFL), 20 TDs (19th in NFL), 3rd highest INTs in the NFL, 18th in Comp%.... are we still calling him a top tier QB?

With those numbers is anyone talking about Stafford at all?

If your going to do the "with out Megatron" argument then you have to look at everything else with out Megatron

BTW 5 of those TDs belong to Megatron also which Puts Stafford with 15 TDs and 17 INTs.

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again...
Detroit has talent. They're just a bunch of thugs.

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Where did anyone call him a top tier QB? Relax, nobody said he was better than Drew, :rolleyes:.

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Will be elite, Will be premiere, Will be premiere.

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Having lived in the DFW area for over a decade now, I saw potential from Stafford dating back to his Highland Park High School playing days. I like what he brings to the table.

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"Will be"is just speculation that if Stafford continues on the same course as the past few seasons, he may be able to gain admittance into that exclusive club of top tier QBs.

"Will be" is not the same as Atlanta-fan coming on here and regaling us with tales of the "other Matt's" exploits while trying to cram him into the top tier, down our throats.

I think you have me confused with another fan base, Oak-man, ;).

:lol:

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No Sir, I've got nothing but bromance for you, I extend that courtesy to no other. :-P

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Just make sure you spank GB and the Viqueens, Reggie. Stafford will need better protection on blitzes when Reggie is back there. Reggie was never known to be a blocking demon.

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They did show up against the titans, they gave it away. They did show up against the bears defensively and given where that game was played in primetime, they did well. They beat the 4-3 seahawks and after beating jags is where their losing slump began. At vikes, who were 5-4, packers who were 6-3 and won late on a int return, texans who were 10-1 and we know how that turned out. After that they were done at 4-7, and in came the under the radar overachieving colts who were down 13 at one point in the game, then came the packers again in which they led until late third in Lambeau, after that they were drained on a second straight road trip going to Az out west. With the exception of that game and Atlanta, their last seven games 5 of them were all close losses. Lions had to play contender after contender. Their problem was not not showing up on game day but not being able to finish games.

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I like Stafford, he's a competitor, he's got a good head on his shoulders and he's a very good QB

To turn him into a better QB is a mix of a couple of things - more weapons than just calvin johnson, a better running game/committment to the run by the OC and more defensive help

He's already passed for 5000 yards and 40 TD's, to take the next leap the Lions need to get him some help - they do that and the lions will be a serious contender

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"Showing Up" means arriving prepared to play 60 minutes of football. Not kicking arse for the first 1/2 then just being on the field for the second 1/2. It's being mentally prepared to play all 60 minutes @ 100%. Football is as much mental as it is physical.

Now. The Lions are a team.... An organization and that means if the players bust arse for 60 minutes but the coaches screw up the second half adjustments as a whole they have problems. Problems that players can not effect.

I don't believe any teams intentionally "give away" games... Someone fails to do their job, be it players or coaches.

In my honest opinion Atlanta has a coaching problem.... So do the Texans. Kubiack and Smith are the reasons they don't go as far as their on the field talent says they should.

As much as Payton is the reason we win, Schwartz is the reason the Lions lose.

Not all head coaches can get it done.

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I get a lot of grief for it, but I'm also of the opinion HC Schwartz/OC Linehan/DC Cunningham just aren't going to provide the level of coaching necessary for Detroit to be perenniel playoff contenders or make the jump to the next level. They're Ok and will string together a winning season now & then, they just ain't taking you to the promised land anytime soon.

It's one of those things where you hope you're wrong, but you're afraid you may be right.

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We are all too familiar with that feeling, Slo! :)