Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 513221)

Nowhere near a similarity there. We have a coach, a better GM, and an elite QB who has no argument or question about his track record or "elite" status. Atlanta has none of those things, at the level of quality that the Saints have them. Our GM and front office's precise talent is, scouting and signing hidden gems and high quality (and thus less expensive) players in the mid to later rounds, and making really smart, low cost free agent acquisitions (Sproles, Shockey, Vilma, etc). The Saints have been doing this for years, which is a perfect salary cap compliment to a highly paid, high value QB like Drew Brees. The Falcons' front office's MO is to reach down to pick up whatever shiny glittering objects that happen to catch their attention that minute. Falcons fans are STILL debating Ryan's "elite" status after every Falcons' loss and always will be, even after he is retired. It's been proven time and again, that Drew adds value when he makes lesser players perform better by being around him; no one ever says that about Ryan, it's all "star power" over in Atlanta, Julio, Tony, Roddy, Turner and they are about to find out long term that it's not a winning recipe.

Originally Posted by Spot on Dtan (Post 513331)

Speak for yourself.

Having a "bottom third" QB like 'Young' Ryan only works under specific circumstances.

And the first and most important stipulation is that you don't overpay.

The money saved with an inferior QB must be spent elsewhere.

Folks, let's be honest here.

The last time the Falcons had a legitimate shot at the SB was 2006.

Originally Posted by atltillidie (Post 513335)

I think we have as good a chance as anyone to bring one home.

Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 513338)

Superbowl or Bust for the second straight year; right?! :rofl:

Originally Posted by atltillidie (Post 513349)

I'm having an awfully hard time trying to remember when I said 2012 was a SB or bust year.

Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 513350)

Shoddy Roddy has been screaming it the past two years; that was directed more towards the team as a whole(fans included).

Originally Posted by Spot on Dtan (Post 513351)

Roddy knows that '06 was the only real shot he had at a SB.

Originally Posted by Spot on Dtan (Post 513222)

Spot on.

Originally Posted by Spot on Dtan (Post 513372)

Search your feelings.

You know it to be true.

'Young' Ryan is one of those "low ceiling" guys.

Originally Posted by Spot on Dtan (Post 513425)

Look at his weapons.

Originally Posted by Icomeinpeace (Post 513489)

As a Falcons fan I think his contract was fair and exactly what anyone who doesn't have a better option available to sign or draft should expect to pay...lets be honest, the only QB's in the NFL that we would prefer to have over Ryan are not ever going to become free agents and last year's draft and the QB talent that came out of it is more of an aberration than the norm...it was the best QB class since the Marino, Elway class and there have been exponentially more busts than stars drafted in the first round as QBs...if you have a guy you can't replace you pay him big money.

Originally Posted by Spot on Dtan (Post 513515)

All I saw was Julio Jones put 'Young' Ryan on his back.

JJ is improving.

Ryan is stagnant.

Originally Posted by Spot on Dtan (Post 513293)

A joke of an owner hires a bigger joke of a GM, who signs the biggest joke of a QB.

Poetic.

Originally Posted by Spot on Dtan (Post 513491)

You're getting there.

A simpler way to put it may have been....

"He's not worth it, but what choice do we have?"

Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 513521)

Funny to see Falcon fans arguing amongst themselves and on a Saints board nonetheless... :rofl:

Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 513521)

Funny to see Falcon fans arguing amongst themselves and on a Saints board nonetheless... :rofl:

Originally Posted by atltillidie (Post 513355)

He must have been throwing it around without knowing what it meant because it means 'now or never' and I feel like if we don't get it done this year, we'll still be a threat to win a title the next year. That's when I think it'll be now or never for us.

Originally Posted by Spot on Dtan (Post 513678)

With 'Mattiocre' at QB,