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WhoDat!656 08-05-2013 09:24 PM

Officials warn players: Spinning the ball can result in a penalty
 
If it weren't for the Saints, crap like this would make me not watch the NFL.
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It’s become commonplace in the NFL for players who make a big play to spin the ball on the ground in celebration. But this year, players are being warned that there’s a fine line between celebrating and taunting — and if they cross that line, it’s a 15-yard penalty.

Reports today from members of the media at Vikings camp and Panthers camp indicate that referees working training camps are warning players that they’ll be penalized if they taunt opponents by spinning the ball.

This is not a new rule: The 2012 official playing rules listed examples of prohibited acts that will result in unsportsmanlike conduct penalties, saying, “These acts include but are not limited to: sack dances; home run swing; incredible hulk; spiking the ball; throwing or shoving the ball; pointing; pointing the ball; verbal taunting; military salute; standing over an opponent (prolonged and with provocation; or dancing.”

But the fact that officials at two different training camps made a specific point of mentioning spinning the ball suggests that officials will be stricter about enforcing that rule this year than they were last year.

One player, Panthers receiver Steve Smith, even said he’s working on ways to continue his ball-spinning celebrations while staying within the rules. Smith, and every other NFL player, would be wise to err on the side of caution. Players may enjoy spinning the ball to celebrate, but no celebration is worth 15 yards.

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rezburna 08-05-2013 09:31 PM

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Boo!!!!

SmashMouth 08-05-2013 09:36 PM

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Yeah ... yet another way to ruin the game ..... someone please fire Goodell!

K Major 08-05-2013 09:43 PM

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I'm probably in the minority but I always enjoyed watching the old timers score a td then hand the ball to the ref. No sense in showing up the opponent after you just skull drug them on a 80 yard drive.

SaintsBro 08-05-2013 09:54 PM

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Goodell is effing clueless. This is just reaching the point of being outright silly. It's comical. Might as well call it the NO FUN LEAGUE.

rezburna 08-05-2013 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 515179)
I'm probably in the minority but I always enjoyed watching the old timers score a td then hand the ball to the ref. No sense in showing up the opponent after you just skull drug them on a 80 yard drive.

Ahh its so boring. I want the sharpie. The cell phone. Running to the star. I'm all for the showboating. If a team or player doesn't like it, stop em from scoring. That's my motto. Lol.

Halo 08-05-2013 10:47 PM

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Crusader 08-06-2013 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 515183)
Ahh its so boring. I want the sharpie. The cell phone. Running to the star. I'm all for the showboating. If a team or player doesn't like it, stop em from scoring. That's my motto. Lol.

I hate all that stuff. I lost all respect for Joe Horn when he pulled that cellphone crap, I was happy when he left the team.

SloMotion 08-06-2013 05:17 AM

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Geez, :rolleyes: ... probably the only two celebrations I like are spinning the ball and/or dunking it over the crossbar ... other than that, hand the ball to the ref & get out of the endzone ... man, I swear, the way things are going, I'm gonna' start paying less & less attention to the NFL ... and after Calvin retires, :mrgreen:.
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rezburna 08-06-2013 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 515205)
I hate all that stuff. I lost all respect for Joe Horn when he pulled that cellphone crap, I was happy when he left the team.

Idk bro, it just doesn't bother me at all. Its a game. They play a game for a living. Football is so much more fun when both teams are talking and celebrating. It gives it an added emotion. When you play as many games as most of them have its not always easy to get amped up without a catalyst. They might as well build a team full of emotionaless robots.

SloMotion 08-06-2013 05:50 AM

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... They might as well build a team full of emotionaless robots.

Oh, it's coming ... don't think the thought hasn't occurred to them ...

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ProMallNinja 08-06-2013 08:13 AM

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Before I say what I want to say I want to make sure that no one misconstrues this comment as a defense of Führer Goodell. You'll never catch me taking up for his idiocy. I just want to point out that all he is doing by enforcing these types of BS rules is conforming to the societal pussification of man. No bullying. Wah. No hitting too hard. Wah. No showboating (even if it's purely for entertainment value). Wah. Society has forced his hand. If he sat back and left it they way it was eventually the NFL would be shunned by a large portion of society. Hell, they're just a few more "people complaining" from being forced to rename a team (Redskins). If you think that battle is over, you're even more naive than I thought. I don't blame Goodell any more than I blame the parents that won't let their kids play football because "it's too rough". He's just a conformist just like everyone else involved in the pussification process.

rezburna 08-06-2013 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ProMallNinja (Post 515250)
Before I say what I want to say I want to make sure that no one misconstrues this comment as a defense of Führer Goodell. You'll never catch me taking up for his idiocy. I just want to point out that all he is doing by enforcing these types of BS rules is conforming to the societal pussification of man. No bullying. Wah. No hitting too hard. Wah. No showboating (even if it's purely for entertainment value). Wah. Society has forced his hand. If he sat back and left it they way it was eventually the NFL would be shunned by a large portion of society. Hell, they're just a few more "people complaining" from being forced to rename a team (Redskins). If you think that battle is over, you're even more naive than I thought. I don't blame Goodell any more than I blame the parents that won't let their kids play football because "it's too rough". He's just a conformist just like everyone else involved in the pussification process.

Indeed.

Mardigras9 08-06-2013 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 515179)
I'm probably in the minority but I always enjoyed watching the old timers score a td then hand the ball to the ref. No sense in showing up the opponent after you just skull drug them on a 80 yard drive.

I'm right there with you. I'm in the "act like you've been there before" club. Show-boating is classless to me no matter when it happens in a game, IMO.

Celebrating vs Show-Boating is where the real arguement is, because it falls to a matter of opinion and we all certainly differ in that aspect.

TheOak 08-06-2013 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ProMallNinja (Post 515250)
Before I say what I want to say I want to make sure that no one misconstrues this comment as a defense of Führer Goodell. You'll never catch me taking up for his idiocy. I just want to point out that all he is doing by enforcing these types of BS rules is conforming to the societal pussification of man. No bullying. Wah. No hitting too hard. Wah. No showboating (even if it's purely for entertainment value). Wah. Society has forced his hand. If he sat back and left it they way it was eventually the NFL would be shunned by a large portion of society. Hell, they're just a few more "people complaining" from being forced to rename a team (Redskins). If you think that battle is over, you're even more naive than I thought. I don't blame Goodell any more than I blame the parents that won't let their kids play football because "it's too rough". He's just a conformist just like everyone else involved in the pussification process.

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B005TED 08-06-2013 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 515217)
Idk bro, it just doesn't bother me at all. Its a game. They play a game for a living. Football is so much more fun when both teams are talking and celebrating. It gives it an added emotion. When you play as many games as most of them have its not always easy to get amped up without a catalyst. They might as well build a team full of emotionaless robots.

This, let the players play IMO. If your team doesn't want to see the other team celebrate, stop them from making big plays or scoring.

TheOak 08-06-2013 11:41 AM

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As far as the side show goes, I could care less.

Some of the more outrageous celebrating does lead me to view it as that player having more of a "look at me, look at what I did", attitude and mind set; over a team mentality...

Put the sharpie up punk, you are 1 of 11 and you didn't do sh1t by your self.... This is not baseball, you cant score on your own.

ProMallNinja 08-06-2013 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 515301)
As far as the side show goes, I could care less.

Some of the more outrageous celebrating does lead me to view it as that player having more of a "look at me, look at what I did", attitude and mind set; over a team mentality...

Put the sharpie up punk, you are 1 of 11 and you didn't do sh1t by your self.... This is not baseball, you cant score on your own.

Exactly the way I feel. Well said.

TheOak 08-06-2013 11:49 AM

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I will also add...... If you want to impress me with a celebration? Go hug a lineman, he made every yard and every point possible.

If you don't understand why people like me don't care for the TO's, Ochostinko's, Neon's of the world it is because they act like they accomplished something on their own.

rezburna 08-06-2013 11:49 AM

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T.O. and Ocho are just as upset, if not more when they're team loses a game. Nobody plays the game wanting to lose. And people who don't celebrate are just as prone to a me 1st mentality then someone who does. Its actually more commonplace then you think. Leaving a team for more money and going to the highest bidder is an indicator. Holding out on your team. Etc. Everybody is out for themselves and their future. Its a GAME. Goodell is a stick in the mud.

rezburna 08-06-2013 11:58 AM

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And where's the hate for Lance Moore, Mark Ingram, and Jimmy Graham?

Lance and Mark put on a dance exhibition after every TD. Jimmy makes it a point to dunk. No alley-oop for a lineman.

I support it all man. If I was fortunate if to still be playing I'd be having the time of my life celebrating too.

papz 08-06-2013 12:30 PM

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Chest bumps are next. And pats on the ass will become sexual harassment.

TheOak 08-06-2013 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 515304)
T.O. and Ocho are just as upset, if not more when they're team loses a game. Nobody plays the game wanting to lose. And people who don't celebrate are just as prone to a me 1st mentality then someone who does. Its actually more commonplace then you think. Leaving a team for more money and going to the highest bidder is an indicator. Holding out on your team. Etc. Everybody is out for themselves and their future. Its a GAME. Goodell is a stick in the mud.


I never said one thing about winning or losing, being upset about losing and thinking you are a 1 man team are two completely different items.

Changing teams for career advancement has nothing to do with standing on the field and knowing you didn't do anything by your self. Basketball players are not disloyal because they play for a different team in the Olympics.

When Graham or Moore score they celebrate but when the cameras are on them after the game they give credit where credit is due.. Drew... Blocking... Etc.. Brees breaks records and watch who he gives credit to and thanks.

TO, Ocho, Sanders were all about the "me". You seriously have no reasonable retort for someone that changes his damn name to his number. That is pure azzhole right there. When they score they run around the field TRYING to get the cameras and spotlight on them selves. Have you seen Friday Night Lights? They all remind me of Boobie miles.

Owens runs around with 5 carat diamonds in his ears but cant afford to feed his kids and you are going to tell me he doesn't only think about Terrell? Come on brother, your not that big of a homer.

It is not a GAME. For you and I, we are watching a GAME, for the players and coaches it is their careers, their lively hood, it is what puts their children through school and food on the table.

You can save the rest... It aint happnin.

TheOak 08-06-2013 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 515307)
And where's the hate for Lance Moore, Mark Ingram, and Jimmy Graham?

Lance and Mark put on a dance exhibition after every TD. Jimmy makes it a point to dunk. No alley-oop for a lineman.

I support it all man. If I was fortunate if to still be playing I'd be having the time of my life celebrating too.


See previous reply for all but Ingram.... I have yet to see anything he needs to celebrate about. :bng:

Saintaintso 08-06-2013 01:22 PM

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No hulk flex after a sack ... That's a natural reaction !!! Try chasing an already overly protected QB around for 4 quarters and not show any emotion after you finally get him clenching a win ...

Did roger ever play football ?

rezburna 08-06-2013 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 515317)
I never said one thing about winning or losing, being upset about losing and thinking you are a 1 man team are two completely different items.

Changing teams for career advancement has nothing to do with standing on the field and knowing you didn't do anything by your self. Basketball players are not disloyal because they play for a different team in the Olympics.

When Graham or Moore score they celebrate but when the cameras are on them after the game they give credit where credit is due.. Drew... Blocking... Etc.. Brees breaks records and watch who he gives credit to and thanks.

TO, Ocho, Sanders were all about the "me". You seriously have no reasonable retort for someone that changes his damn name to his number. That is pure azzhole right there. When they score they run around the field TRYING to get the cameras and spotlight on them selves. Have you seen Friday Night Lights? They all remind me of Boobie miles.

Owens runs around with 5 carat diamonds in his ears but cant afford to feed his kids and you are going to tell me he doesn't only think about Terrell? Come on brother, your not that big of a homer.

It is not a GAME. For you and I, we are watching a GAME, for the players and coaches it is their careers, their lively hood, it is what puts their children through school and food on the table.


You can save the rest... It aint happnin.


Ocho's self promotion was never detrimental to any team he played for. If anything it brought attention the Bengals for something other then being losers. T.O.'s biggest crime to date is wanting the ball. Dieon Sanders has rings, stats, and all the greats to cosign him as a player and person. Your personal dislike for people clouds a lot of things you say and feel. T.O. and Ocho always gave credit when credit was due. Hell, Terrell defended Tony Romo. Tony Romo!!! Before all this TV coverage and social media nobody would be as critical of those two, and they'd still be playing because the media wouldn't be worried about getting a story. There is nooooo reason to dislike people you don't know this badly. They were fun to watch, one is a Hall of Famer, one will be, and one might be. They got every right to celebrate coming from where they come from.

SapperSaint 08-06-2013 01:39 PM

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I am all for celebrations. Now, with that in mind; I don't want to see someone dance for 1 minute and stop and take a photo op. I like the "Hulk" pose after a sack, the "Salute", the "Dunk", the "Spin".

However, the T.O. running to the middle of the STAR... I would have chopped his knees out from under him if I would have been a Cowboy.

What would y'all have done if the NFL would have flagged T.P. when he sealed the deal "Pointing after he got the INT", and it negated the touchdown? Crap, he was happy and he knew what he had just done. Which was make hell freeze over by the Saints winning the Super Bowl.

Let them celebrate. I'm not saying do all the stuff the "U" used to do. But let them have their moment, at least.

rezburna 08-06-2013 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SapperSaint (Post 515326)
I am all for celebrations. Now, with that in mind; I don't want to see someone dance for 1 minute and stop and take a photo op. I like the "Hulk" pose after a sack, the "Salute", the "Dunk", the "Spin".

However, the T.O. running to the middle of the STAR... I would have chopped his knees out from under him if I would have been a Cowboy.

What would y'all have done if the NFL would have flagged T.P. when he sealed the deal "Pointing after he got the INT", and it negated the touchdown? Crap, he was happy and he knew what he had just done. Which was make hell freeze over by the Saints winning the Super Bowl.

Let them celebrate. I'm not saying do all the stuff the "U" used to do. But let them have their moment, at least.

If I was a Cowboy on offense I would've scored and did the same celebration just for him.

If I was on defense I'd make sure he doesn't score again. Simple.

If they dish it, dish it back.

Only thing I don't like is getting in peoples face or trying to stand over a guy and taunt. That's about it. That would warrant a fight in my book.

SaintsBro 08-06-2013 02:29 PM

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Yeah it wasn't on purpose, but one time Jimmy Graham took a hit, jumped up and stood over the guy who tackled him, he did a Popeye muscle flex or was jawing down at him or something...then he realized the guy was down, he was hurt, rolling around in pain, and he couldn't get up. I forget when exactly it was, which game.....it was not anything intentional, but it looked REEEEEEALLY bad on Graham. THAT'S not something you want to see guys do. I love Jimmy but I do wish he would learn to cool it a little. We all know it, he has dropped sure TD passes in the end zone, that hit him right on the hands, because he was already THINKING TOO SOON ABOUT THE DUNK.

rezburna 08-06-2013 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 515338)
Yeah it wasn't on purpose, but one time Jimmy Graham took a hit, jumped up and stood over the guy who tackled him, he did a Popeye muscle flex or was jawing down at him or something...then he realized the guy was down, he was hurt, rolling around in pain, and he couldn't get up. I forget when exactly it was, which game.....it was not anything intentional, but it looked REEEEEEALLY bad on Graham. THAT'S not something you want to see guys do. I love Jimmy but I do wish he would learn to cool it a little. We all know it, he has dropped sure TD passes in the end zone, that hit him right on the hands, because he was already THINKING TOO SOON ABOUT THE DUNK.

That drop issue goes back to Miami. I was mad when we drafted him. I'm not mad anymore of course, but he definitely will drop one on occasion.

Rugby Saint II 08-06-2013 03:28 PM

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Lance knows how to cvelebrate with style........................Ingrams dance gets on my nerves.

vpheughan 08-06-2013 04:37 PM

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There was a robot football game on the Jetson's. The coach put in a "old" veteran with a huge wind up key on his back! lol

rezburna 08-06-2013 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 515357)
Lance knows how to cvelebrate with style........................Ingrams dance gets on my nerves.

Ingram usually "cooks". Its a dance originated by a "rapper" named Lil' B. Its not that popular anymore, I'm surprised he still does it.

homerj07 08-06-2013 07:16 PM

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Hooray. The No Fun League continues its path towards flag football

SloMotion 08-07-2013 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 515338)
Yeah it wasn't on purpose, but one time Jimmy Graham took a hit, jumped up and stood over the guy who tackled him, he did a Popeye muscle flex or was jawing down at him or something...then he realized the guy was down, he was hurt, rolling around in pain, and he couldn't get up. I forget when exactly it was, which game.....it was not anything intentional, but it looked REEEEEEALLY bad on Graham. THAT'S not something you want to see guys do. I love Jimmy but I do wish he would learn to cool it a little. We all know it, he has dropped sure TD passes in the end zone, that hit him right on the hands, because he was already THINKING TOO SOON ABOUT THE DUNK.

I'll cut a player a break on something like that because it's "the heat of battle" where they've usually done something unexpected, extraordinary or devastating to an opponent ... it just comes out ... and I think it reflects favorably on JG or any player that appropriately stops celebrating once they realize someone's injured ... but yeah, if thinking about the 'celebration' is gonna' interfere with scoring, you gotta' draw-the-line somewhere, :).

TheOak 08-07-2013 08:12 AM

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If the celebration is a continuation of the play or movement... Sack/Flex, TD/Dunk... I am not sure I would call that an actual celebration...

When you catch a ball on the 50 and 5 minutes later you are still flying around the endzone with your arms out like an airplane.... well.

QBREES9 08-11-2013 08:29 AM

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Are we abck to the NO Fun League.


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