Why Attend Games
 

You pay out the nose, Can't hardly bring any thing into the stadium and your treated like this?

Now I don't know what he did but really is this necessary the guy is clearly unarmed and subdued

WATCH: Chiefs fan tasered by cops at Arrowhead

Seems excessive to me and again I have no idea what he did

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Piggy Piggies

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No offense, but you're exactly right... We have no idea what he did and why he is resisting.

Give them your hands so they can put them behind your back and cuff them is the way to go, not keep trying to pull them back under you. That's why he was getting tased...

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Totally agree with you there Mitch
Just thought they could have been alittle more discrete they do have him cuffed already but your right going quietly is and always the best policy

have to admit the punch by the cop was alittle over the top though

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Crazy.

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Not quite sure why the guy had to punch him in the face while he was clearly subdued.

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Maybe you should of watched and read the info on the incident. The guy was verbally being abusive to other fans and when the police confronted him he attempted to choke the officer and kicked him in the gonads. I would of tapered his butt also.

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To answer the original question, "Why attend games?", I go for the atmosphere and the real life experience you just can't duplicate at home ... like watching drunks get arrested, fer' instance, :lol:.

I've been the arrester and the arrestee and these situations are never as they seem, but if you're an uncooperative drunk, you pretty much deserve what you get, IMO.

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Oh for the love of Mohammed, kids. Its SO simple.
1. Just dont be a dickweed
2. Do what the police tell you.

But here's an instructional video for those still struggling with
the concept:

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And as for "Why Attend Games?"

Cuz living life is better than watching life.

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A little bit different perspective.

First off, the cop should have never hit him, but look at that cops forehead, see the cut and the blood? He is pissed and something tells me he was hit a few times, I also saw mention of a cop getting kicked in the groin.. He still should have never hit him, but I do understand.

What the guy did initially doesn't matter, what matters is what he did after he was asked to leave.

I have worked security at bars and concerts, any of you that are around my age 43 and frequented bars in Lafayette; Shannahans, Nite Caps, Makos, Bulldog, Plaza, Grant Street Dance Hall, have probably seen me, had your ID checked by me or been thrown out by me if you were acting up. :) Dont hate..

When you in a crowded environment trying to subdue and remove someone resisting; the number one priority is to get him up, wrapped, and out ASAP. You want that accomplished before his friends get restless and try to join in, you want him out before his drunk girlfriend is on your back and head like an angry spider-monkey on angel dust... You also want him out before he finds a way to get lose and injure someone else.

I can honestly say that in all my years of throwing people out, I never hit anyone. If any of you remember that drink special sign that hung outside between the doors of Nite Caps, i was known for knocking that sign off its hook from the inside because while trying to run someone out I missed the door opening. :) oops.

For all of you bad-azz mofo's, when you are asked to leave.. Just go. There is no scenario that ends up with you still standing at the bar finishing that drink, or talking to that girl. Sooner or later you will be out; its your choice whether you exit and go to the next bar of your own free will or leave with assistance and probably end up waiting the night for someone to bail you out.

For the knights in shining armor that see a "domestic dispute", and want to intervene and be the hero... Never do it alone. She might be pissed and hating him at that moment but as soon as you put your hands on him she becomes that spider-monkey on YOUR back. Out come her teeth, finger nails, mace, bottle, anything she can find and its coming at you. :givemebeer:

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The bald cop on the left has some kind of cut on his head.

Maybe it's just the Mardi Gras background in me, but I was always taught, you touch a cop, you are getting a free ride downtown. DON'T TOUCH A COP.

I do think it needs to be looked into and investigated, I'm certainly not condoning the violence, they have rules of engagement that need to be examined here to see if they were followed or if the force was excessive, but ....if you're a person, you can talk, you can even argue your case with him, but DON'T TOUCH THE COP.

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One of my biggest pet peeves is people watching 3 seconds of a 5 minute video and forming an opinion that they stubbornly refuse to change, no matter how hard the truth hits them in the face.

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change the title thread to Why go to games...if you are just going to act like an idiot.

were the cops excessive, yes? Have we seen 1000 times before what an antagonized cop will do? Yes.

pay your money, enjoy the environment and the game, and you will more than likely leave on your own accord

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That is great experiance for any public event.

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This is how I was raised. My grandpa told me once, after I'd been arrested for being a "dickweed"...

Well, I was going on and on about the cops this and the cops that and "that cop thinks this is Miami Vice", and on and on, and truthfully I was right. Small town cops with too much "movie cop" in him.

But gramps said, "Son, you're right, and let's just assume the cop is exactly as you say. Did you ever stop to think - he's the one with the gun?"

LOL. Point taken. It was neither the first nor the last time Gramps has schooled me like that.

Now I know, for a fact, that people have negative feelings towards the police, and I even believe in many cases it is justified. STILL, not being a dickweed and doing what they tell you to do is an EXCELLENT way to minimize the damage.

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I have big screen Tv. I don't have to pay for over priced Beer. I have my own Bathroom. I don't have to pay for parking. I don't have to sit in traffic, i'm home.

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Like "going" to school, it's good for your social skills.


I make one preseason game every two years..... See

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If I can't be on the field photographing the game. I'll watch from home.

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I feel this way too. I still try to make at least one game a year though. Yeah, maybe the players look like ants from the high rafters, the beer is overpriced, the food sucks and it's far too expensive, but you have to think of it as a pilgrimage of sorts. it means even more to me now that I live far away.

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I go to every single Saints game that is within 300 miles of me.


You go to support your team because if people stopped going they would be the San Antonio Saints.

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When I lived in Birmingham - the pre-Katrina, Aaron Brooks years - I took several weekend trips a season to see the Saints live. Now that I live near (and work in) NOLA, I've been to one lousy preseason game!

I could afford the tickets, parking, overpriced beer, etc. when we sucked ... but as we improved, demand & prices rose beyond my meager telecom-guy salary. I love the Saints & try to never miss a game on the tube, but I gotta pay my bills, man!



... and for what it's worth, I was never tazered or forcibly removed. Given how bad we were in the Aaron Brooks years, that's REALLY saying something!

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Once upon a time, before God elevated his Saints because he just got tired of hearing about St. Vince in GRB and the hole in Texas Stadium, you could easily find a ticket in NOLA.

It was good for tourism, especially for those in Wisconsin, because a Lambeau ticket is a hard nut to crack.

I have been to every Packer v. Saint game since I hooked up with my old man. It was also negotiated in wedding contract to travel to one NFL away game - EVERY year. (My goal is to visit every NFL venue.)

Hubby, he puts up with it.

I want to go to Europe some day and with the NFL playing one game there - I have a reason.

The crown jewel trip was when he sacrificed to take me to THREE games Thanksgiving week. Seattle at Saints, Saints at Dallas and forgive me, Packers at Atlanta.

I think he secretly likes it but whines about it.

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I love reading comments from people who assume that the police are always in the right.

The police are not all gems. There are some really really horrible people who are police officers. My friend is a cop and he has told me stories that would make your hair stand on end. My friend is a good man - it's too bad there are not more like him.

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People get too caught up in "right and wrong"....
The issue is not whether the police are right or wrong.... That is what a court room is for.

Even if that cop is wrong, you will bleed before it is over. If you want to bleed and get arrested then by all means get right in his face.

I prefer to go quietly and let my lawyer handle it... The cost ends up being the same but I will not need any healing time.:goodidea:

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I'm not sure we are assuming that... I think the point is this- if a cop tells you to do something, especially in a crowd, just do it.

On Poydras I just saw a 55 year old guy in a Saints shirt jaywalk in front of cop while the cop was holding up his hand to stop him. The guy then says 'oh, don't be an ******* about it'. Smart.
While I was crossing, (legally, I might add) that guy was emptying his pockets and looked like he might be there awhile. Moral: shut up and /or do the right thing. Or both

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Welp, moving right along... from link

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Except for when at a Mardi Grad parade last year on the Northshore in Mandeville, the Mandeville PD along with Parish PD had prisoner inmates cleaning up a highway 1/2 mile down, on an (assumed) closed highway. No signs, no nothing, you just had to guess the road was closed, the only road leaving my fathers dental practice.

I drove up to a police car with 3 guys there to ask "can we proceed down this road now?"

One plain clothes ass-hole cop walks backwards into my car, I slammed by breaks going all of 2 mph, and he yells "WHAT ARE YOU INSANE! YOU TRIED TO RUN OVER ME" when I said CALMLY "I have a car full of 6 people and you deliberately walked backward into my car. I was driving 2 miles per hour toward your car to ask a question. Can we pass here?"

When mister undercover "bad cop" decided to go ballistic, slam his hands on the hood of my car, and reached for his holster, another police office standing there who saw it all happen stopped him by putting his hand between him and my car and said "NO" and he calmly answered my question.

Luckily, that day, the entire PD had NO RESPECT for the "bad cop" detective. On any other day, I could have been thrown in jail, unjustly, by someone abusing his authority.

And there is the problem with police. It's not the good police at all.

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Ha Ha. Great video. Too bad common sense is amazingly lacking in so many people

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Why attend games?

I am not commenting on the video because I did not even look at it.

Why go to games?
The game.
It is much Nothing beats being there.
It is more fun and exciting being at a game rather then seeing it on tv.
You can see the whole play and the complete field of all the players being there and what is happening on the sidelines.

Socializing with friends.
A memory to have with your kids, family.
Socializing with stadium seat neighbors.
Helps your home team and the local economy.
Having dinner before or after the game. Parking. Buying a Game Day $5.00 book. That still is really a good deal for the price.
Buying some refreshments at the game.
The atmosphere.
A place to go and something to do.
Being at a game is far better than watching it on tv.

No, we all cannot go to the games because we don't live there anymore.
Yes, the cost per season ticket holder is high.
Some people who are not season ticket holders can make some games.

As far me, I remember the years of my parents and their club going to the games.
Monday night games, I remember so many and we and so many fans would eat at the Hyatt buffet and walk across to the Dome.
The sights, sounds, smells. People wearing all their Saints clothes and some people get really done up-face painting, charactersetc.

I remember one lean year of being a miserable Saints' fan, but still a fan, one lady who had seats in front of us said," Do you realize we have been here watching these people lose and all around us fans , people here have been born, grow up through school years, been married, finished college, finished high school, lives of the fans ..."
It was funny. Seeing the same people , clubs and families , every year ...a lifetime.

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Meet New Orleans Saints super fan Lionel Alphonso Sr., Da Pope | Football Animals

Good example of a dedicated , crazy fan.
Da Saints' Pope.

I also love the signs people make for games. Too funny.

I like your thread, but you need two separate threads.
One for the vid of the arrest.
One about going to games.
That is a very good thread to post about.

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Precisely how it should have been handled. You didn't get out of the car after being told not to or try to stay in your car when being told to get out. You didn't start yelling about your rights, calling him a pig, try to chest bump him. In so many words you told him, "I am only looking for an answer to my question, are you sure you want to do this here"? A cooler head prevailed, had you got out screaming and yelling it would have turned out differently. :)