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saintfan 10-13-2014 07:31 PM

Sproles Disrespected By Karma: Tears his MCL
 
Darren Sproles of Philadelphia Eagles sprains MCL, may return after bye - ESPN

Barry from MS 10-13-2014 08:45 PM

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That's wrong, man. As a fan base, we can't say Karma is the reason for an injury to a former Saint.

We've gotta be better than that.

saintfan 10-13-2014 08:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry from MS (Post 618191)
That's wrong, man. As a fan base, we can't say Karma is the reason for an injury to a former Saint.

We've gotta be better than that.

Better than what? We disrespected him. He and his wife made that as public as they could and weeks into the season he still won't let go a business decision.

Karma is real. "WE" got nothing to do with that.

Utah_Saint 10-13-2014 08:50 PM

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Title of the thread made me laugh out loud.

Sorry to see that happen to Sproles though. Hopefully he heals up fast.

Barry from MS 10-13-2014 09:06 PM

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I completely believe in Karma. But injury is not something that can be laughed at or made fun of regardless of circumstances. These guys put it on the line with their bodies to entertain us.

I don't think it's funny...just an opinion.

saintfan 10-13-2014 09:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry from MS (Post 618197)
I completely believe in Karma. But injury is not something that can be laughed at or made fun of regardless of circumstances. These guys put it on the line with their bodies to entertain us.

I don't think it's funny...just an opinion.

I never typed "LOL" or "LMAO" or said I thought it was "funny".

I did make a play on his own words as he played the "disrespect" card multiple times and very publicly along with his wife refused to let a business decision be just that.

I'm not smiling. I'm not laughing at his injury. Rather I read the news with a wink of the eye and an accepting nod of my head that here's just another bit of evidence that karma is real.

I'm too old to fool around trying to be politically correct. I don't think I've ever made fun of a player's injury, certainly not a serious injury. I'm a Saints fan. Sproles left here angry and chose to make insinuations about the organization that I support...and he played the "disrespect" card, which is, in my opinion, about 1/16 higher on the scale than the "race" card.

So you go ahead and rise above. I'll stay right here, level, knowing that Karma is real.

:peace: OUT

Halo 10-13-2014 09:34 PM

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They said on MNF tonight it's a sprained MCL.

Darren Sproles likely out few weeks with sprained MCL | Comcast SportsNet Philadelphia

Barry from MS 10-13-2014 10:04 PM

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"Sproles Disrespected by Karma" isn't making a joke at his expense using satire? I reckon I'll stay confused on that one, then.

And this not a political correctness issue, either.

Political Correctness definition: conforming to a belief that language and practices which could offend political sensibilities (as in matters of sex or race) should be eliminated.

RailBoss 10-13-2014 11:15 PM

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Looked up the definition of Karma, but honestly I wish Sproles was still here.

Karma means action, work or deed;[1] it also refers to the principle of causality where intent and actions of an individual influence the future of that individual.[2] Good intent and good deed contribute to good karma and future happiness, while bad intent and bad deed contribute to bad karma and future suffering.[3][4] Karma is closely associated with the idea of rebirth in some schools of Asian religions.[5] In these schools, karma in the present affects one's future in the current life, as well as the nature and quality of future lives - or, one's saṃsāra.[6]

Audiotom 10-13-2014 11:25 PM

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Sorry to see Sproules out
Hope he is back soon
He did great for us and is florishing as an Eagle

Karma?
Loomis cut him for cap space

saintfan 10-13-2014 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Audiotom (Post 618208)
Sorry to see Sproules out
Hope he is back soon
He did great for us and is florishing as an Eagle

Karma?
Loomis cut him for cap space

That would be Loomis karama. I'm talking Sproles' karma.

Am I really the only hippie up in here? People getting confused by the karma and looking up definitions? Have mercy.

Sproles makes unnecessary and unfounded comments about the organization. Unnecessary and unfounded...meaning untrue of course. Tried to make himself feel better by talking smack about an organization that paid him MILLIONS for his services then made a BUSINESS decision that had precisely zero to so with respect.

That's bad karma people. It has nothing to do with me or the Saints or Loomis or any of you. That Darren's bad karma, and it doesn't stop to consider how likeable he might be.

It's karma. It's real. Here endeth the lesson...I think...

dizzle88 10-14-2014 04:01 AM

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Where's his wife? She should be releasing a interview anytime soon, spouting off again.

Barry from MS 10-14-2014 04:18 AM

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Sproles talks smack about the Saints organization disrespecting him and karma in the form of the Giants defense turns around and injures his knee, has to get invasive knee surgery, and then has to rehab it for at least 2 weeks. All because he felt and said he was disrespected.

But Sproles was disrespected, considering the Saints let him and his family find out about the trade through Twitter. Twitter. For a huge major life move for Sproles and his family, the Saints let it get to Twitter before letting the man know something about getting traded. Sounds like disrespect to me, and I'd be upset as well. He didn't even come across as an @$$ about it, anyways, and Brees said he'd have felt the same way in that instance.

I do understand Karma pretty well...studied it in Okinawa for 3 years and live it in one form or another every day. I also posted the political correctness definition because I was being accused of it and I wanted to clarify my stance. And I reckon I ain't hippie enough or just too stupid to understand karma.

I'm leaning towards too stupid. You win.

Danno 10-14-2014 08:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry from MS (Post 618222)
Sproles talks smack about the Saints organization disrespecting him and karma in the form of the Giants defense turns around and injures his knee, has to get invasive knee surgery, and then has to rehab it for at least 2 weeks. All because he felt and said he was disrespected.

But Sproles was disrespected, considering the Saints let him and his family find out about the trade through Twitter. Twitter. For a huge major life move for Sproles and his family, the Saints let it get to Twitter before letting the man know something about getting traded. Sounds like disrespect to me, and I'd be upset as well. He didn't even come across as an @$$ about it, anyways, and Brees said he'd have felt the same way in that instance.

I do understand Karma pretty well...studied it in Okinawa for 3 years and live it in one form or another every day. I also posted the political correctness definition because I was being accused of it and I wanted to clarify my stance. And I reckon I ain't hippie enough or just too stupid to understand karma.

I'm leaning towards too stupid. You win.

I'd imagine twitter is a whole lot faster than the process the Saints had to follow. The tweet could have gone out two seconds after someone found out a deal had been reached in principle. The Saints probably aren't going to tell a player (or his sleazy agent) anything until the deal is finalized.

I suspect we'll see a lot more of this type of so called disrespect as long as instant social media exists.

I wouldn't be shocked if the Saints found out that Sproles found out before the Saints even finalized the deal.

rezburna 10-14-2014 09:12 AM

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Right. A guy says he felt disrespected by a team he obviously still wanted to be with and "karma" rewards him with a knee injury. Logical.

Utah_Saint 10-14-2014 09:20 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 618241)
I'd imagine twitter is a whole lot faster than the process the Saints had to follow. The tweet could have gone out two seconds after someone found out a deal had been reached in principle. The Saints probably aren't going to tell a player (or his sleazy agent) anything until the deal is finalized.

I suspect we'll see a lot more of this type of so called disrespect as long as instant social media exists.

I wouldn't be shocked if the Saints found out that Sproles found out before the Saints even finalized the deal.

Adam Shefter of ESPN leaked it. They're the ones who didn't wait until Sproles and his wife had been informed. Who's to say his source wasn't in Philly.

SaintsBro 10-14-2014 09:49 AM

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Hurt or not, he is making more money there than he did here. Prior to his injury, he was flourishing with his new team in a way that was making headlines. If you are laughing and gleefully calling that "karma" then you are basically just reveling in the fact that he got injured, because you have NO OTHER LEG TO STAND ON in your argument besides cheering for the injury. Which is pathetic and crass. This thread title and its whole concept is full of fail.

saintfan 10-14-2014 10:42 AM

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I love this thread. A few of you got your feelings on your sleeve.
Nobody, myself included, wants to see Sproles or anyone else get hurt. At least 3 of you can (and should) get over yourselves.

But I sure was proud of that whipping we put on Favre a few years ago too. Most of you were too, I have no doubt. Wink wink. Nudge nudge.

I hate...no loathe...A grown man saying he was "disrespected", even if he was slighted in some way. A grown man keeps his mouth shut and corrects the problem in whatever manner is necessary. A grown man doesn't go public. Not a mature grown man.

When you waive your hands and jump up and down and in as loud a voice as possible do all that you can do to make sure everyone knows you feel, "disrespected"...well pot, meet kettle. Anybody here believe the Saints as an organization or any one employed by the Saints has or had some "disrespect" going on for Darren?

Yeah. Me neither. Sproles and his wife threw what amounted to a very public tantrum. Good for them. NOW I DO have less respect. You bet your red wagon. How spoiled must one be? AND, once wasn't enough. First the wife get her tantrum on. Then Sproles gets his feelings documented too. And, amazingly I thought because I didn't think he was that kind of man and was willing to forgive him the first tantrum, he's back at it in public just a few weeks ago being all disrespected and stuff.

Sean ever say Roger disrespected him? No. Never will. Know why? Because it's classless that's why and Sean is a grown man. Sean has chosen to be a man and rise above. And it's not even a good comparison because Sean truly was "disrespected". The only thing that happened to Sproles was he got his feelings hurt.

Anyone who thinks I enjoy the fact that Sproles got hurt can go jump in the lake. I'm a football fan so that's just stupid. If you have so much respect for Sproles that you'd connect those unconnectable dots do let Darren know because he needs to feel the love. Please hold hands with all the other butt-hurt people who feel they have been disrespected in some way by me by recognizing karma's role in life and pointing it out, and take them down with you. Clearly the heard needs thinning.

Everybody on the Internet is a moral compass.

rezburna 10-14-2014 10:50 AM

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So because YOU feel a man doesn't complain, he just takes it in the ass with no lube and doesn't say anything, it justifies "karma" bringing upon an injury? So Sproles is "classless" for complaining about being disrespected, but it's not classless to complain about the fact that he said it or make a thread about his injury when he doesn't play for this team anymore? It's not adding up.

Barry from MS 10-14-2014 12:33 PM

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Wow. All this simply because some of us thought this thread's title was "full of fail" and tasteless/classless/tacky...then gets initiated the "thin the herd" logic, but just as long as the herd agrees with you and your reasoning.

But you didn't disrespect me at all; I don't know you. I am not butt-hurt by you either. I just told you my opinion of your statement. If you don't like it, then we'll have to agree to disagree.

Funny...at least 3 of us can get over ourselves, but you follow that up by a thesis validating how right you are. Got it.

saintfan 10-14-2014 01:13 PM

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Those of you how don't hold Sproles accountable for playing the "disrespect" card are duly noted. I am sadder for humanity, but I live in California so I'm used to it.

Odd that this thread would be deemed as tasteless or tacky by you folks but Darren's shots at our team, coach, gm, owner, etc are not held to the same standard? Sproles was truly disrespected then? By whom? For what transgression was his respect from his peers revoked?

And I never said a man doesn't complain - a debate tactic that will fail I assure you. I said a man doesn't stand up and throw a tantrum. There is a very big and easy to see difference if one is actually interested in seeing it. At least that's what I think I said. But I'm willing to bet the accuser is well aware.

Maybe it's not so odd. The fact is karma jumped up and bit the man. Karma disrespected him. I proclaimed neither happiness nor sadness. I simply noted it.

Perhaps I am "disrespecting" the defenders of the right for respect and public acknowledgement therof?

Oh well. Just as Sproles will recover from his MCL and live to be disrespected by the Eagles when they make THEIR decision, so too will those offended by this thread live to post in another. Unless of course one violates karma in a truly tragic way.

Karma disrespects without regard to race, creed, religion, and so on and so forth.

I was a fan of Darren. I hated to see him leave. The minute he and his wife accused my team of disrespect I lost the respect I had for him. That was classless and tacky.

At least 3 of you people are disrespecting my thread. You three should be happy to know it isn't against the law.

Barry from MS 10-14-2014 01:50 PM

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Quoting Sproles: “I felt disrespected there. Listen, I understand this is business and all of that, but (when they talked about trading him) they put it up on Twitter. That’s how I found out. There was a screen shot and a friend of mine texted it to me. I felt they did me wrong. First, Sean (Payton) told me they were going to cut me. Then I find out on Twitter they’re trading me. That’s just not right. So I really haven’t been in contact with anyone there since I left. I really haven’t paid attention to what they’re doing. I’m more focused on what’s happening here.’’

A lot of folks wouldn't think this is disrespectful including myself, and neither does Sproles' peers.

"If the Saints let me go tomorrow I'd probably feel the same way," Brees said.

Now if I understand correctly, what Sproles says is over-the-top, blatant tearing-down of the Saints organization in disrespect. It also requires a future MCL injury to be a consequence for it. Wow.

saintfan 10-14-2014 07:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry from MS (Post 618305)
Quoting Sproles: “I felt disrespected there. Listen, I understand this is business and all of that, but (when they talked about trading him) they put it up on Twitter. That’s how I found out. There was a screen shot and a friend of mine texted it to me. I felt they did me wrong. First, Sean (Payton) told me they were going to cut me. Then I find out on Twitter they’re trading me. That’s just not right. So I really haven’t been in contact with anyone there since I left. I really haven’t paid attention to what they’re doing. I’m more focused on what’s happening here.’’

A lot of folks wouldn't think this is disrespectful including myself, and neither does Sproles' peers.

"If the Saints let me go tomorrow I'd probably feel the same way," Brees said.

Now if I understand correctly, what Sproles says is over-the-top, blatant tearing-down of the Saints organization in disrespect. It also requires a future MCL injury to be a consequence for it. Wow.

Dude what the flip are you even talking about? I don't control Karma! I have no say in what Karma "requires". Are you high?

In very simple words:

The Saints executed a BUSINESS decision on a player. That player used the (in my own opinion) silly, child-like, thug-like, tantrum-like "disrespect" card. I have NO PROBLEM telling you or the other two antagonists here that as a Saints Fan and as a Man I am disgusted by that and embarrassed for him for saying it.

He made 14 million plus with San Diego. But they decided they could no longer afford to keep him at his salary demand, so he left. Did he "disrespect" the team that drafted him?

Whatever.

He then goes to New Orleans and makes 10 million more. We praised him just as San Diego did, and we paid him well, just as San Diego did.

Now, he signs an extension with the Eagles worth what, another 10 million over this year and the next two.

35 million and change, so far, and he's "disrespected" because of trade...that happens to just about everyone who plays. No, he's not. He's just mad because he found out on twitter? Seriously Darren, get all the way over it sir.

But nope. His wife throws mud at our team. HE piles on. Lots of people went to bat FOR him to get him here, and he now refuses to communicate with those people because they are associated with the team that "disrespected" him. Who is disrespecting whom? Hmmm?

Do you seriously not see how childish that is? I mean, seriously? You're defending that? As my grandpa would say, "it takes all kinds to make a world I guess." Speaking of...let's do a hypothetical...

Hypothetically:

Me: "Awe man, they disrespected me grandpa. I mean, they paid me 10 million and all, but they traded me and I found out on twitter and now I'm mad and I feel disrespected. And my lovely wife agrees with me!"

Grandpa: "Get over it son. You aren't owed respect. You earn it. It's a business. You aren't unique. It happens to everyone, only most don't get 14 million dollar contracts with 6 million guaranteed you know? Get your feelings off your sleeve and go play for the Eagles. Man up. Take the high road son. That's where you'll get your respect."

I take direct issue with the "disrespect" mentality. You bet I do. It smacks of entitlement, and I suppose I was raised differently. And I'll bet you any amount of money you'll never hear Sean whine about Roger's "disrespect". You WILL hear a lot of these spoiled little brats whine about this and that and claim themselves victims...of "disrespect". We might "feel" it, as Drew says, but do you think Drew would say, "man, they disrespected me", in the same situation. I'd be extremely disappointed in him if he did, just as I am with Sproles, a player I otherwise like.

I didn't say "over the top", did I? Nope. But you did.
I didn't say "tearing-down", did I? Nope. But you did.
I didn't say a torn MCL was a required consequence, did I? Nope. But you did.

Sir you are arguing with yourself! Get a grip, please, before Karma comes knocking! It's not worth it man!

[EDIT]
It would seem as though Karma has determined that in fact a torn MCL is not the price required of Mr Sproles to redeem himself karmatically. Only a sprain was exacted. I for one hope Mr Sproles has the foresight to thank his lucky stars.

saintfan 10-14-2014 08:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 618274)
So because YOU feel a man doesn't complain, he just takes it in the ass with no lube and doesn't say anything, it justifies "karma" bringing upon an injury? So Sproles is "classless" for complaining about being disrespected, but it's not classless to complain about the fact that he said it or make a thread about his injury when he doesn't play for this team anymore? It's not adding up.

Is my play on Darren's own words classless? Could be. I'm JUST THE GUY he could have avoided had he kept his mouth closed long enough to think it through. Yep. I'm the one.

But I didn't wish injury on him, and I'm not happy about it as some might suggest. I'm just the play-by-play guy and Karma just knocked him the **** out! Boom! Man, that Karma can hit!

It is...well, it is, "karmatic", what has befallen poor Mr Sproles. Ironical even. Don't you agree?

But I never said men (or women) couldn't or even shouldn't complain. I do think the "disrespect" card, in almost every instance, and particularly in this one, is bogus. Everybody wants to be a victim, ya know?

And finally, what, exactly did he have to "take in the ***" as you so eloquently describe? Man, he took that tweet with no lube! Ouch indeed. Ouch for sure!

aquaboogie 10-14-2014 08:44 PM

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I suppose Sproles could say that trading him to create cap space for the NOW injured Jimmy Graham contract is Karma???????????

saintfan 10-14-2014 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by aquaboogie (Post 618380)
I suppose Sproles could say that trading him to create cap space for the NOW injured Jimmy Graham contract is Karma???????????

He certainly could. Karma is a mutha-you-know-what.

But he'd probably stick with "disrespect". One wonders what his wife has to say on the subject...

Halo 10-14-2014 10:02 PM

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This thread is :deadhorse:
Karma karma blah blah blah :deadhorse2:

Everybody pile on Saintfan :deadhorse: bleh, bleh, blah.

Sorry but this thread is dragging on.....

http://i.imgur.com/ICsE2oq.jpg

CLOSED

QBREES9 10-16-2014 09:39 AM

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Get well Darren we miss you here in Nawlins


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