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If he isnt good enough for a 49ers team needing a new guard i dint see hom being any better than Lelito or Kelemete

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Look, don't like bullying, but look at this...

He's playing in the NFL and he went to Stanford...

He should either be tough enough or smart enough (or both) to have figured out how to resolve his bullying by Incognito...

That whole take it to the media thing, well, just geaux rinse the sand out Jonathan...

I'd hate to have him among my troops going into battle...

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Incognito was wrong but a cry baby is not needed in this locker room. we have enough issue there from last year

I would sign Incognito before him

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im sorry that's bs. Being a bully is all about being a *****. You gain power by identifying people weaker than you and targeting them. If that isn't the worse type of ***** I don't know what is. Give me the guy who takes on the bully and protects the inferior guy, that's who I want on my team.

That ***** got his power from picking on someone weaker than him and did it by having support from others. Without that support or if the person had been stronger his ***** ass would have shut up.

I don't think Martin can add anything to the team...but someone else might have more info on his abilities

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I wonder how much of it had to do with Harbaugh (his coach at Stanford) leaving and if that was the only reason the guy had a job in SFran in the first place.

IDK that much about the guy other than the 'bullying' thing, which I think he handled poorly. The guy was a second round pick by Ireland in Miami (?), maybe he winds up in a Saints uni if he goes UFA, eh? Might be a connection there, :).

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Those are valid points...

But given the question and seeing how he fared in a stressful environment without familiars, No Thanks...

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Precisely why with the Ireland connection this may be something to watch.

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I want a guy that would fight anyone no matter if they won or lost not some little snitch ass coward that tattle tells on people. Man up.

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If he couldn't stand up to Incognito then he can't stand up to anyone else including DLmen. If Incognito had said something about my race or my family I would have bashed his face in and consequences be damned.

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The idea of a grown man being bullied by another grown man is hilarious enough. But when you're a monster of a human being like Martin is, and you're still going to let someone push you around, well.... that's just pitiful.

Don't need that on this team.

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The guy is a kid only 25, he was only 22 before the incident. Incognito, a older guy 29 and captain, how do you think he suppose to act in that situation as a rookie and 1 year veteran?

Judging him on skill set as a guard I don't think he is the answer to our offensive line

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NO

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Good, they can have him

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I want players who are tough with a nasty mean streak.

I'd rather have Incognito than Martin.

Sherff @ 13 would make me very happy. That guy freaking hates.

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I love bullies..........I love to set them straight.

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Just a reflection on the bully scandal on what was said. People who prefer to have incognito on this team most likely forgotten in depth of that situation.

http://blackandgold.com/nfl/61650-r-...scum-mssg.html

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22... Not 12. 22 years old and built like a house, how do you get bullied? Incognito is an instigator. He's one of these guys who thinks he has to show superiority through frat boy type of behavior. He thinks that's how he's going to get people to follow him. It's just an immature form of trying to get people riled up. It's not the same thing as bullying. No one was trying to beat anyone up, and even if incognito HAD tried that, Martin is bigger than him. So what's he so rattled about?

I don't give a crap how much experience he has in the NFL, he didn't just start playing football when he got drafted. Your defense of him is every bit as weak as his own.

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best of luck to him and i hope he is toast every time he faces us.

bring on the next mellow drama baby

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Incognito is a *****, and he is jealous of other people and feels inferior to them so he has to try and bully someone. Like I said he got his power because people supported his bull****.

Funny to read all the comments about it back then and what he said.

So this is immature behavior just trying to get someone riled up....???

"Hey, wassup, you half n----- piece of s---. I saw you on Twitter, you been training 10 weeks. [I want to] s--- in your f---ing mouth. [I'm going to] slap your f---ing mouth. [I'm going to] slap your real mother across the face [laughter]. F--- you, you're still a rookie. I'll kill you."


From what I remember Martin went to his entire org before coming out about it. THEY FAILED! I don't care what place of employment it is, no one should have to feel that way going to work or have someone saying that to them.

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I love me some scherff, him looks like a nasty boy. Plus, it is possible that scherff and unger are both german names and pretty much we'd have two people from the war animals that took down the Romans.

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Was Martin the only black guy on the team? Was he the only rookie on the team? Do you think that Martin was the only one he talked to that way? I didn't defend incognito, I called him what he is. An immature frat boy. All that garbage he said is pure rhetoric, it can't be taken as serious threats. It's just a stupid guy acting stupid. But be a man and stand up to him. Instead he was weak, and Incognito preyed on that weakness, as people like him will do.

I suppose you think Gregg Williams meant it literally when he supposedly told his players "kill the head" and blah blah blah.

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Junior Galette's new "victim"... And then he promptly gets shut down.

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Well now you're confusing hyperbole used to make an analogy vs someone saying I am going to **** in your mouth and kill you. I have no idea if he meant what he said, but what was the analogy Incognito was making so you can parallel his statements to GW's?

GW's was saying that if you kill the main part that makes the body function you win. I don't see any point to Incognito's comments.

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I am going to try to simplify this so you can understand as much as possible. A young man coming to his place of employment after hearing the certain protocol (the shield is bigger than you) about don't disrespect the shield or yourself. Seeing how players had to take the hazing of carrying veteran equip (Dez Bryant) buying teammates gifts (Ryan Tannerhill) or going through gauntlets (saints) as a form of passage in the league and you say he should fight. What you don't understand is he won't be just fighting Incognito, incognito was the designated captain meaning his following veterans had his back.

If your boss was to call you in the office for a 1 on 1 and said the same things Incognito said to you and you were the same size, salary and age of Martin would you do? I personally think he handled it as properly as it could've be done.

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There was nothing wrong with what GW (i've heard similar when I played in HS) said since we all saw that the defense played like they had tuned him out weeks ago (at least the safeties), the problem was it was caught on tape right before the NFL got sued for years of disregard of player safety so the NFL was looking for anything that would work in their favor and GW gave them evidence on a silver platter

as for J Martin, he's a serviceable back up but as a starter, I'll pass

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No! Anyway we will see him in Carolina.

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I have no interest in this guy. Regardless of his draft position and the Bully-gate scandal, his play on the field has always been poor at best. He's never shown he can play at a pro level. No interest.

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Bring back the "Gauntlet" the bags of pennies that result in detached retinas. Hell if you can't play with only one eye who needs you?

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No Thank You!