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burningmetal 01-19-2016 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by CharityMike (Post 690057)
And there's always "that guy" who thinks his opinion is the only one that is right and then gives crap to another person with a different one.

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Dude, there a few people around here who think their opinion is the only one that matters, and I've dealt with all of them before. You know nothing about me or how I post if you think I'm one of them.

I don't have a problem if people want to keep the rules as they are, though I might disagree with them. It's the reasoning I have a problem with. I'll reiterate my point... It's one thing to say that the rules should stay the same because the games are long enough (though I don't consider that much of a reason), but it makes zero sense to say that if you don't stop the other team from scoring you don't deserve to win. Is it not a TEAM game? The offense gets no chance to respond?

I'm not making excuses for teams, because as long as these are the rules, you deal with it. But when they changed the rule the first time, it would have made a lot more sense to give each team a possession, instead of making it conditional upon scoring a touchdown or field goal.

EVERY OTHER SPORT that I can possibly think of has overtime rules that guarantee each team an equal chance. When I feel strongly enough that people are wrong about something, I will make it known. Don't be a hypocrite and act like you aren't the same way.

WhoDat!656 01-19-2016 10:27 AM

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Even if both teams get a possession regardless if Team A scores first or not, the team that wins the coin toss has an immediate advantage.

RaginCajun83 01-19-2016 10:42 AM

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so they change the rule to what it is now and now people want it changed again. I agree, it shouldn't of been changed to begin with but they did it. As for the format now, if you can't stop a team from getting the ball and scoring on you THEN you really don't deserve to get the ball. Stop them and then score, if anything I'd change it to first that scores a TD so if the other team does get the ball, they can't win on a field goal.

burningmetal 01-19-2016 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 (Post 690149)
so they change the rule to what it is now and now people want it changed again. I agree, it shouldn't of been changed to begin with but they did it. As for the format now, if you can't stop a team from getting the ball and scoring on you THEN you really don't deserve to get the ball. Stop them and then score, if anything I'd change it to first that scores a TD so if the other team does get the ball, they can't win on a field goal.

I think most people who want a change probably want it for the same reason I do. I always thought it should have been that both teams get the ball at least once. It isn't something I just decided on. Instead the NFL just kind of halfway tried to solve the problem and only did that because, as others have said, all of the complaining about how we beat the Vikings. As if it was something that had never happened before.

But really, moving forward it makes sense to avoid all doubt, in my opinion. I'm not sure it will happen.

RaginCajun83 01-19-2016 05:46 PM

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Both teams getting the ball = every kid getting a participation trophy now

last thing I want is "fair for everyone" invading the NFL

vpheughan 01-19-2016 07:13 PM

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Play a 7 minute 5th quarter. Leader at the end wins if it's tied it's a tie!

QBREES9 01-19-2016 10:18 PM

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You win the coin toss. Team scores team wins the game. Just like how the Cardinals WON!!!! and the Saints beat the Viqueens. Thanks Brett Farve.

WillSaints81 01-20-2016 12:52 AM

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Teams have taken advantage of the ot coin toss nowadays trying to go for the TD. Idk though if it should change.

burningmetal 01-20-2016 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 (Post 690190)
Both teams getting the ball = every kid getting a participation trophy now

last thing I want is "fair for everyone" invading the NFL

How is this anything like a participation trophy? It's perfectly fine for each team to open a half receiving the ball, but in overtime it's now a participation trophy to ensure that the coin toss doesn't give one team an obvious advantage? You make it sound as if someone is suggesting to add seconds to the clock at the end of the game so the other team gets a chance, or a mulligan to re-do a play.

Say whatever you want about my opinion, but this is nothing like a participation award, where every losing team gets something no matter how far behind they were. No comparison.

Garry42 01-20-2016 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 690147)
Even if both teams get a possession regardless if Team A scores first or not, the team that wins the coin toss has an immediate advantage.

You are absolutely correct, and that is why I favor a set time period for the initial overtime. Yes, if both teams score a TD then the team that won the coin toss would only have to kick a field goal to win on their next possession. This still puts far too much importance on winning the coin toss. Football should be a game of skill, not chance.

Several replies suggest that the Defense should stop the opposing Offense on the initial possession or they deserve the loss. I can see that to a point, except that the rules of the game (which I have no issue with) favor the Offense. Also, every team has 1 side (Offense or Defense) that is stronger than the other. It doesn't mean that they aren't capable of winning, but the current overtime rules potentially prevent you from playing your entire team.

At the end of the day, I just want to see the best team win. The current overtime rules don't promote that in my opinion and the fix would be relatively simple. It would never be perfect, but it could be a lot better than it is.


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