The NFL Is a Product I Refuse to Purchase Any Longer

foreverfan · 09-14-2017, 12:26 PM

I thought Chris Rock straighten this out back in 1996.

Chris Rock - Black People VS. Niggaz (Bring the Pain 1996) - YouTube

rezburna · 09-14-2017, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by foreverfan

I thought Chris Rock straighten this out back in 1996.

Chris Rock - Black People VS. Niggaz (Bring the Pain 1996) - YouTube

The two distinctions were created to be synonymous. Funny jokes...misleading quotes.

Danno · 09-14-2017, 08:44 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

The two distinctions were created to be synonymous. Funny jokes...misleading quotes.

So are you OK with Black stereotypes, or only if it comes from a black guy?

rezburna · 09-15-2017, 06:09 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

So are you OK with Black stereotypes, or only if it comes from a black guy?

I don't care anything at all about stereotypes. I care about the socioeconomic rise and independence of the Black community in whatever way it takes to achieve it. I lost interest in debunking stereotypes for other people outside of my culture a while ago. It's a lost cause. If you're asking would I feel different if a White man did a comedy routine about the same things, probably so. I'd feel different if a random guy called me a name as opposed to my brother, cousin, or friend. I have an understanding with the individuals I listed, just as we have a cultural understanding on things in our community.

If you're asking me about the "n" word specifically, I won't lose sleep if I read about someone other than a Black person using it. If it's directed towards me or said around me by someone outside of my race, I'd probably feel inclined to react then.

I don't find these concepts difficult to understand, but I know plenty of people who want to make them difficult. I let them do it for someone else.

foreverfan · 09-15-2017, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

If you're asking me about the "n" word specifically, I won't lose sleep if I read about someone other than a Black person using it. If it's directed towards me or said around me by someone outside of my race, I'd probably feel inclined to react then.

I don't find these concepts difficult to understand, but I know plenty of people who want to make them difficult. I let them do it for someone else.

Actually it has been used so much in comedy that I think it is funny. Only Democrats and the fake news media continue to keeping revering to the word as hate speech to support their narrative as hate speech.

Personally... I don't know any white people that use the word unless as pure comedy or a way of describing the worst part of the black community. Like I said... Chris Rock says it best.

Curb Your Enthusiasm -Larry said NIGGA! - YouTube

CANT FORGET THIS CLASSIC

Dave Chappelle - The Niggar Family - Video | KillSomeTime.com

Utah_Saint · 09-15-2017, 12:07 PM

The protests don't bother me. I don't pay much attention to them. I figure a couple of the guys sitting during the anthem are actually passionate about their cause, the rest are just trying to be contrarian cool.

If they wanna make a political statement and their bosses are cool with it, then go for it. But, just my opinion, pissing off most of the general public is a stupid way to protest. They're certainly not winning people over to their cause.

rezburna · 09-15-2017, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by foreverfan

Actually it has been used so much in comedy that I think it is funny. Only Democrats and the fake news media continue to keeping revering to the word as hate speech to support their narrative as hate speech.

Personally... I don't know any white people that use the word unless as pure comedy or a way of describing the worst part of the black community. Like I said... Chris Rock says it best.

Curb Your Enthusiasm -Larry said NIGGA! - YouTube

CANT FORGET THIS CLASSIC

Dave Chappelle - The Niggar Family - Video | KillSomeTime.com

I know white people who use it in all forms and fashions and I find nothing funny about it whatsoever. Chris Rock may have said it best to you, but he most certainly doesn't speak on my behalf. I don't care to partake in the Democrat vs Republican/Liberal vs Conservative debates. None of these things represent me, nor were they created with me and mine in mind. History fuels that word being considered hate speech. It has nothing to do with political identity. White people shouldn't be using it to describe any part of the Black community, but seeing how it has no bearings on socioeconomics, it's not at the top of my priority list.

QBREES9 · 09-15-2017, 10:07 PM

CLASSIC

jeanpierre · 09-15-2017, 11:00 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I don't care anything at all about stereotypes. I care about the socioeconomic rise and independence of the Black community in whatever way it takes to achieve it. I lost interest in debunking stereotypes for other people outside of my culture a while ago. It's a lost cause. If you're asking would I feel different if a White man did a comedy routine about the same things, probably so. I'd feel different if a random guy called me a name as opposed to my brother, cousin, or friend. I have an understanding with the individuals I listed, just as we have a cultural understanding on things in our community.

If you're asking me about the "n" word specifically, I won't lose sleep if I read about someone other than a Black person using it. If it's directed towards me or said around me by someone outside of my race, I'd probably feel inclined to react then.

I don't find these concepts difficult to understand, but I know plenty of people who want to make them difficult. I let them do it for someone else.

This is where the road splits for many who want to see the Black community succeed by any means, rather working with others...

arsaint · 09-24-2017, 11:08 PM

These jackasses need to realize that their efforts are an insult to most of those who put on the uniform.

You want to protest Trump, Obama or any other politician or cause then feel free but the national anthem and the flag are not the vehicle to do so.

Spoiled millionaires out of touch with mainstream America as Americans pony up the dough for their pay checks.

Men and women died, were maimed, or gave up time with their families to provide a safe place for you to be filthy rich and you spit in their face by disrespecting this nation.

Sure this country is not perfect, but its as close as it gets on earth.

NFL will suffer as a whole for allowing this to continue and expand in scope... you should all be cut and allowed to find a job here in the real world with the rest of us. I can guarantee that players are available to take each and every one of your places...

PS - to the Saints players participating, I hope all 10 of you are cut

09-14-2017, 01:24 PM	#22
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,234	Re: The NFL Is a Product I Refuse to Purchase Any Longer Originally Posted by foreverfan I thought Chris Rock straighten this out back in 1996. Chris Rock - Black People VS. Niggaz (Bring the Pain 1996) - YouTube The two distinctions were created to be synonymous. Funny jokes...misleading quotes. foreverfan likes this.

09-14-2017, 08:44 PM	#23
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,759	Re: The NFL Is a Product I Refuse to Purchase Any Longer Originally Posted by rezburna The two distinctions were created to be synonymous. Funny jokes...misleading quotes. So are you OK with Black stereotypes, or only if it comes from a black guy? foreverfan likes this.

09-15-2017, 06:09 AM	#24
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,234	Re: The NFL Is a Product I Refuse to Purchase Any Longer Originally Posted by Danno So are you OK with Black stereotypes, or only if it comes from a black guy? I don't care anything at all about stereotypes. I care about the socioeconomic rise and independence of the Black community in whatever way it takes to achieve it. I lost interest in debunking stereotypes for other people outside of my culture a while ago. It's a lost cause. If you're asking would I feel different if a White man did a comedy routine about the same things, probably so. I'd feel different if a random guy called me a name as opposed to my brother, cousin, or friend. I have an understanding with the individuals I listed, just as we have a cultural understanding on things in our community. If you're asking me about the "n" word specifically, I won't lose sleep if I read about someone other than a Black person using it. If it's directed towards me or said around me by someone outside of my race, I'd probably feel inclined to react then. I don't find these concepts difficult to understand, but I know plenty of people who want to make them difficult. I let them do it for someone else.
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09-15-2017, 12:07 PM	#26
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: The NFL Is a Product I Refuse to Purchase Any Longer The protests don't bother me. I don't pay much attention to them. I figure a couple of the guys sitting during the anthem are actually passionate about their cause, the rest are just trying to be contrarian cool. If they wanna make a political statement and their bosses are cool with it, then go for it. But, just my opinion, pissing off most of the general public is a stupid way to protest. They're certainly not winning people over to their cause.

09-15-2017, 12:16 PM	#27
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,234	Re: The NFL Is a Product I Refuse to Purchase Any Longer Originally Posted by foreverfan Actually it has been used so much in comedy that I think it is funny. Only Democrats and the fake news media continue to keeping revering to the word as hate speech to support their narrative as hate speech. Personally... I don't know any white people that use the word unless as pure comedy or a way of describing the worst part of the black community. Like I said... Chris Rock says it best. Curb Your Enthusiasm -Larry said NIGGA! - YouTube CANT FORGET THIS CLASSIC Dave Chappelle - The Niggar Family - Video \| KillSomeTime.com I know white people who use it in all forms and fashions and I find nothing funny about it whatsoever. Chris Rock may have said it best to you, but he most certainly doesn't speak on my behalf. I don't care to partake in the Democrat vs Republican/Liberal vs Conservative debates. None of these things represent me, nor were they created with me and mine in mind. History fuels that word being considered hate speech. It has nothing to do with political identity. White people shouldn't be using it to describe any part of the Black community, but seeing how it has no bearings on socioeconomics, it's not at the top of my priority list. foreverfan likes this.
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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: The NFL Is a Product I Refuse to Purchase Any Longer Originally Posted by rezburna I don't care anything at all about stereotypes. I care about the socioeconomic rise and independence of the Black community in whatever way it takes to achieve it. I lost interest in debunking stereotypes for other people outside of my culture a while ago. It's a lost cause. If you're asking would I feel different if a White man did a comedy routine about the same things, probably so. I'd feel different if a random guy called me a name as opposed to my brother, cousin, or friend. I have an understanding with the individuals I listed, just as we have a cultural understanding on things in our community. If you're asking me about the "n" word specifically, I won't lose sleep if I read about someone other than a Black person using it. If it's directed towards me or said around me by someone outside of my race, I'd probably feel inclined to react then. I don't find these concepts difficult to understand, but I know plenty of people who want to make them difficult. I let them do it for someone else. *This is where the road splits for many who want to see the Black community* succeed by any means, rather working with others...**
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09-24-2017, 11:08 PM	#30
arsaint Saint Historian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: deep in the bowels of a hidden bunker, somewhere under the brick & steel of a nondescript building.. Posts: 2,765	Re: The NFL Is a Product I Refuse to Purchase Any Longer These jackasses need to realize that their efforts are an insult to most of those who put on the uniform. You want to protest Trump, Obama or any other politician or cause then feel free but the national anthem and the flag are not the vehicle to do so. Spoiled millionaires out of touch with mainstream America as Americans pony up the dough for their pay checks. Men and women died, were maimed, or gave up time with their families to provide a safe place for you to be filthy rich and you spit in their face by disrespecting this nation. Sure this country is not perfect, but its as close as it gets on earth. NFL will suffer as a whole for allowing this to continue and expand in scope... you should all be cut and allowed to find a job here in the real world with the rest of us. I can guarantee that players are available to take each and every one of your places... PS - to the Saints players participating, I hope all 10 of you are cut