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jeanpierre 02-27-2018 08:09 AM

PFT Competition Committee meets on catch rule, targeting and more
 

K Major 02-27-2018 09:40 AM

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No one knows what a catch is anymore. The NFL & it's officials don't know either.

jeanpierre 03-01-2018 08:08 PM

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jeanpierre 03-19-2018 08:05 PM

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jeanpierre 03-20-2018 10:13 AM

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No matter what objectivity they try to bring to this, it will still be a subjective call...

jeanpierre 03-20-2018 11:33 AM

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vpheughan 03-20-2018 01:28 PM

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i OBJECTING TO ALL THIS SUBJECTIVITY HAS A CERTAIN RING TO IT

jeanpierre 03-21-2018 06:48 AM

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A third element? So what happens in two minute drills or in the corner of the red zone?

Sean is going to spend too much time with this and needs to focus on just the Saints...



jeanpierre 03-22-2018 07:01 AM

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Oh, yeah, this makes it so much clearer... :|


K Major 03-22-2018 08:07 AM

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Too many inconsistencies.

Let's just hope the next rule "change" is that spot foul on defensive players. Just line it up 15 yards from scrimmage. I've seen a lot of teams get bailed out by this spot foul non sense.

jeanpierre 03-22-2018 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 796284)
Too many inconsistencies.

Let's just hope the next rule "change" is that spot foul on defensive players. Just line it up 15 yards from scrimmage. I've seen a lot of teams get bailed out by this spot foul non sense.

Agreed. That's some of that knee-jerk over-reaction legislative-ness - oh, well, a safe fell out of a moving truck going up-hill on a Sunday and killed a kitten so we're going to make a rule that safes have to be transfered by licensed, registered safe transportation organizations...

Hey, if a team commits three, four pass interference infractions in a row without making a play, fine, then you give the ball to the offense on the 1 yd line...

This throw it up there on one play in the end-zone and draw the NBA touch foul is total bullshinski...

The pussification of the game under Goodell's tenure to enhance scoring when nothing was wrong with the game in the first place is ridiculous...

SaintsBro 03-22-2018 10:53 AM

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Here's my two cents on what they should do with the catch/no catch rules, and instant replay -- this is a factor that no one else is really talking about.

I think they should limit the amount of times that they let the officials use SLOW MOTION to look at a particular replay, and make them concentrate more on watching game-speed or slightly-slowed-down replays.

Slow motion has its uses, for sure, but basically, a catch is a catch -- 98% of the time, you know it when you see it, in real time, as a body and a ball in motion. Once they start slowing things down to microscopic speed, and freeze framing and scrolling back and forth, toggling and inching between one or two frames of film at a time, going back and forth, back and forth, viewing the game at a ridiculously slow speed that a football or a human body NEVER goes -- by that point, you're not really talking football anymore. You're talking about philosophy, how many angels dancing on the head of a pin.

When you're down to looking at individual blurry frames of video in a replay, you're not really watching football -- you're watching the old grainy film of Bigfoot from the '60s and trying to decide if you think it's real or not. It becomes an opinion at that point, or an article of faith, because it's TOO SLOWED DOWN. As a viewer, I'll sit through a replay, but when they start freezing and rocking the picture back and forth, back and forth, back and forth, on one or two frames, and it's ridiculously slowed down to the nth degree -- that's when I get up from the chair and go start to work on whatever I'm going to do after the game. I don't need to spend my Sunday watching the Zapruder film.

The problem is not replay, or the definition of a catch, it's that they're using the replay the wrong way. It also wouldn't hurt if they took a hint from Shakespeare, and got rid of the all lawyers involved.

jeanpierre 03-23-2018 02:26 PM

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jeanpierre 03-23-2018 02:47 PM

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jeanpierre 03-25-2018 09:25 PM

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F**K! This is the one rule I wanted to see returned to what it was...


jeanpierre 03-25-2018 09:30 PM

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"...Of the 303 defensive pass interference penalties in the 2017 season, 129 were marked off more than 15 yards..."


jeanpierre 03-26-2018 11:03 AM

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jeanpierre 03-27-2018 11:15 AM

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SaintGnome 03-27-2018 05:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 796307)
Here's my two cents on what they should do with the catch/no catch rules, and instant replay -- this is a factor that no one else is really talking about.

I think they should limit the amount of times that they let the officials use SLOW MOTION to look at a particular replay, and make them concentrate more on watching game-speed or slightly-slowed-down replays.

Slow motion has its uses, for sure, but basically, a catch is a catch -- 98% of the time, you know it when you see it, in real time, as a body and a ball in motion. Once they start slowing things down to microscopic speed, and freeze framing and scrolling back and forth, toggling and inching between one or two frames of film at a time, going back and forth, back and forth, viewing the game at a ridiculously slow speed that a football or a human body NEVER goes -- by that point, you're not really talking football anymore. You're talking about philosophy, how many angels dancing on the head of a pin.

When you're down to looking at individual blurry frames of video in a replay, you're not really watching football -- you're watching the old grainy film of Bigfoot from the '60s and trying to decide if you think it's real or not. It becomes an opinion at that point, or an article of faith, because it's TOO SLOWED DOWN. As a viewer, I'll sit through a replay, but when they start freezing and rocking the picture back and forth, back and forth, back and forth, on one or two frames, and it's ridiculously slowed down to the nth degree -- that's when I get up from the chair and go start to work on whatever I'm going to do after the game. I don't need to spend my Sunday watching the Zapruder film.

The problem is not replay, or the definition of a catch, it's that they're using the replay the wrong way. It also wouldn't hurt if they took a hint from Shakespeare, and got rid of the all lawyers involved.

This 100%. Everyone wanted replay to right egregious errors, and I backed that but it's out of hand now and needs to be scaled back. It's a game of inches not millimeters.

SmashMouth 03-28-2018 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SaintGnome (Post 796838)
This 100%. Everyone wanted replay to right egregious errors, and I backed that but it's out of hand now and needs to be scaled back. It's a game of inches not millimeters.

Just how many millimeters are in an inch?

saintfan 03-28-2018 09:35 AM

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K Major 07-05-2018 02:40 PM

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There's more :rolleyes:...

New catch rule includes more than third step, reaching with ball.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ing-with-ball/

jeanpierre 07-07-2018 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 805157)
There's more :rolleyes:...

New catch rule includes more than third step, reaching with ball.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ing-with-ball/

And how many new game head officials are we going to have this year?

jeanpierre 07-09-2018 01:32 PM

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jeanpierre 08-19-2018 12:46 PM

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jeanpierre 08-19-2018 11:19 PM

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jeanpierre 10-21-2018 06:49 AM

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Actually a pretty good video from Ed "Guns" Hochuli with how the refs are trained on targeting...


jeanpierre 10-21-2018 07:26 AM

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