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jeanpierre 06-07-2019 05:33 PM

Nick Foles’ leadership stood out during Jaguars’ offseason program
 

jeanpierre 06-07-2019 05:35 PM

Re: Nick Foles’ leadership stood out during Jaguars’ offseason program
 
This could end up being there Drew Brees FA QB acquisition that turns this loaded team into a contender...

Wanted the Saints to sign him when we could afford it six years ago..
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CHA_CHING 06-15-2019 04:13 PM

Re: Nick Foles’ leadership stood out during Jaguars’ offseason program
 
I like Foles but I do not think he is the next Brees.

On paper and in advanced stats, Foles is a middle tier QB. He's pretty much this generation's Jeff Hostetler and I say that as a compliment (Hostetler does not get the credit he deserves for the 1990 Giants playoff run). He was also a big signing for the Raiders back in the day and I think they had one year where they started out hot (1995 I think?) with a winning record and then finished 8-8 or 9-7 after Hostetler got injured.

vpheughan 06-15-2019 07:36 PM

Re: Nick Foles’ leadership stood out during Jaguars’ offseason program
 
Wanted the Saints to sign him when we could afford it six years ago...


“So as I sort of just stepped away from the game for those few days, I was able to talk to him, talk to him about how I felt. It really was only Coach Reid. That was it. I really didn’t care about any other offer. I told my agents, ‘That’s the guy I want to play for.’"

A.8Manning 07-05-2019 04:27 AM

Re: Nick Foles’ leadership stood out during Jaguars’ offseason program
 
the Jags arent doing anything and neither is Foles from now on

K Major 07-05-2019 08:28 AM

Re: Nick Foles’ leadership stood out during Jaguars’ offseason program
 
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Originally Posted by A.8Manning (Post 847709)
the Jags arent doing anything and neither is Foles from now on

I wouldn't take this team lightly. They lost some guys on defense due to FA but still have good linebackers & two VERY GOOD CORNERS ... IMO Jalen Ramsey is elite at his position. Statistically their defense finished the 2018 season ranked #5.

Nick Foles is a proven vet who knows how to win & when healthy L Fournette is a dawg running the rock.

10/13/2019
<--- circle the date. This game will be at their place & the Saints need to be ready. Bortles is long gone.

Can't wait.

CHA_CHING 07-07-2019 07:40 PM

Re: Nick Foles’ leadership stood out during Jaguars’ offseason program
 
I'm not a believer in the Jags.

They went 10-6 in 2017 with the 2nd ranked easiest schedule of the year. Just 10-6. They didn't dominate with such an easy schedule. Such an easy slate of games was mostly due to the fact Houston crashed and burned after Watson's injury and the Colts were without Andrew Luck. The Titans also benefited from this bad state of a division (along with the Chiefs being coached by Andy Reid and choking a big lead in the playoffs).

The AFC South has been the historically worst division in the NFL since 2002, and yet the Jags were swept by a mediocre Titans that over-achieved in the playoffs.

At the end of the 2017 season they were embarrassed by a bad 49ers team that scored 44 points on them and then Tennessee beating them.

People gave them way too much credit for beating a Steelers team in the playoffs whom they had dismantled with ease in the regular season. Despite Pittsburgh going 13-3, 10 of those were wins were by 7 points or less. All year the Steelers had played down to their competition, nearly losing to absolute garbage teams including the Aaron Rodgers-less Packers and Andrew Luck-less Colts. Pittsburgh was a paper tiger in 2017 and it showed in the playoffs. Mike Tomlin is one of the most overrated coaches ever and the people who argue he's a HoF coach are nuts.

Last year people got way too excited when they beat the Patriots. Every team who beat NE last year missed the playoffs, they still stomped all over the good teams on their schedule.

The Jags looked like a mediocre team last year playing a division winning schedule. I'm not convinced they are some up and rising team, even with the modern day Jeff Hostetler at QB.

At least the AFC South is set to be bad once again, which will help any team that rises to the occasion. Only the Colts in that division have their stuff together and I'm taking them to reach the AFCCG. Houston is a joke and no one takes the Titans seriously at all. Fun fact - Andrew Luck is still undefeated vs Tennessee.

I don't believe the Jags are going to win the AFC South, but I could be wrong. They are at least the only AFC South team that gives Indy a run for the money and used to give them fits when Manning was there in his prime.

Vrillon82 08-13-2019 04:17 PM

Re: Nick Foles’ leadership stood out during Jaguars’ offseason program
 
I dunno what Foles will do, it seemed he only could work with the Eagles. Im more into wondering if Carson Wentz can keep up. He looked pretty bad until Foles have came in both years.

A.8Manning 08-22-2019 03:55 AM

Re: Nick Foles’ leadership stood out during Jaguars’ offseason program
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 847711)
I wouldn't take this team lightly. They lost some guys on defense due to FA but still have good linebackers & two VERY GOOD CORNERS ... IMO Jalen Ramsey is elite at his position. Statistically their defense finished the 2018 season ranked #5.

Nick Foles is a proven vet who knows how to win & when healthy L Fournette is a dawg running the rock.

10/13/2019
<--- circle the date. This game will be at their place & the Saints need to be ready. Bortles is long gone.

Can't wait.

i'm 54. i dont waste time with silly thoughts. The Jags wont be making it to any SB this year. they are waste of time to pay attention to. it doesnt matter if they win 10 or more games. they are a waste of a fans time

burningmetal 08-22-2019 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by A.8Manning (Post 851668)
i'm 54. i dont waste time with silly thoughts. The Jags wont be making it to any SB this year. they are waste of time to pay attention to. it doesnt matter if they win 10 or more games. they are a waste of a fans time

You are 54. It doesn't matter if anyone wins 10 or more games; every team is a waste of fans time. But I assume you'll be watching the Saints. And both Jaguar fans will watch the Jags. So what makes the Jags stand out in the waste of time world?

Odd comment, I must say.

rezburna 08-22-2019 10:56 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 847711)
I wouldn't take this team lightly. They lost some guys on defense due to FA but still have good linebackers & two VERY GOOD CORNERS ... IMO Jalen Ramsey is elite at his position. Statistically their defense finished the 2018 season ranked #5.

Nick Foles is a proven vet who knows how to win & when healthy L Fournette is a dawg running the rock.

10/13/2019
<--- circle the date. This game will be at their place & the Saints need to be ready. Bortles is long gone.

Can't wait.

I’d take Ramsey over any corner in the league. That includes my boy Lattimore. Jalen is the only person I’d take over him.

jeanpierre 08-22-2019 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 851694)
I’d take Ramsey over any corner in the league. That includes my boy Lattimore. Jalen is the only person I’d take over him.

Only guy with his speed, quicks is maybe Peterson; and I get the smack talk...

Reminds me of English Literature/Nordic Epic Poetry tradition of Beowulf - boisterous bragging yourself into a corner where you have to succeed against tremendous obstacles...

But he needs to leave the other BS and politics talk at home and take care of business and more fans will flock to his game...

Know one thing, watch him flat-out shut down AB in regular season and playoff game - it was beautiful to watch...

rezburna 08-22-2019 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 851705)
Only guy with his speed, quicks is maybe Peterson; and I get the smack talk...

Reminds me of English Literature/Nordic Epic Poetry tradition of Beowulf - boisterous bragging yourself into a corner where you have to succeed against tremendous obstacles...

But he needs to leave the other BS and politics talk at home and take care of business and more fans will flock to his game...

Know one thing, watch him flat-out shut down AB in regular season and playoff game - it was beautiful to watch...

Beowolf is actually a really good comparison. And I remember that Steelers game. I was in awe, because even with all the extra ****, AB is one of the best receivers I’ve ever seen. Jalen Ramsey is a freak with that combination of size and speed at cornerback. When he gets old and slows down he’ll easily transition to safety. Between him and Derwin James, Florida State is obviously wasting the DB talent they’re bringing in.

K Major 08-22-2019 02:47 PM

Re: Nick Foles’ leadership stood out during Jaguars’ offseason program
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 851705)
Reminds me of English Literature/Nordic Epic Poetry tradition of Beowulf - boisterous bragging yourself into a corner where you have to succeed against tremendous obstacles...

You are just showing off now JP :p.

Beowulf? Good > evil ... nice.

A.8Manning 08-24-2019 02:48 AM

Re: Nick Foles’ leadership stood out during Jaguars’ offseason program
 
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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 851669)
You are 54. It doesn't matter if anyone wins 10 or more games; every team is a waste of fans time. But I assume you'll be watching the Saints. And both Jaguar fans will watch the Jags. So what makes the Jags stand out in the waste of time world?

Odd comment, I must say.

nothing odd at all. I know i'm watching entertainment. I dont waste emotion on it, like a child. I'm a fan of the nfl. I like to watch sports, not the Saints exclusively. but its only so painfully obvious over the last few years that the nfl decides who wins.
the Saints will at the very best, make it to the nfc final again this year.. but even if they do, they will lose. its not up for debater, its not maybe, its not who knows? they might. they wont. its a stone cold guarantee that they wont.
its been the saints entire history except the one year after they remodeled the stadium. Season 100 will be about teams older than the 1960s. the nfc south division wont matter

jeanpierre 08-24-2019 10:01 AM

Re: Nick Foles’ leadership stood out during Jaguars’ offseason program
 
Jags need another receiver, but they look like the team to beat in the AFC South...

Don't care what last season's records are, at the end of the year, the Saints will still have one of the toughest Strength of Schedule Ratings...

K Major 08-24-2019 10:24 AM

Re: Nick Foles’ leadership stood out during Jaguars’ offseason program
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 851857)
Jags need another receiver, but they look like the team to beat in the AFC South...

Colts ? And I understand Andrew's health is an issues but that O line is mean and nasty.

Beastmode 08-24-2019 11:07 AM

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Foles, the common knock on him is he's a great paint by numbers QB which is fairly accurate IMO. Technically, he has been on 4 teams (Philly twice).

I thought it was three to be honest. He should not be bouncing around like that if he didn't have some major defect. If the game gets off script too much he mentally breaks down.

SmashMouth 08-24-2019 11:17 AM

Re: Nick Foles’ leadership stood out during Jaguars’ offseason program
 
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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 851865)
Foles, the common knock on him is he's a great paint by numbers QB which is fairly accurate IMO. Technically, he has been on 4 teams (Philly twice).

I thought it was three to be honest. He should not be bouncing around like that if he didn't have some major defect. If the game gets off script too much he mentally breaks down.

Strange from a guy whom broke Brees' numbers in the very same Westlake High School in Texas

CHA_CHING 08-24-2019 01:06 PM

Re: Nick Foles’ leadership stood out during Jaguars’ offseason program
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 851865)
Foles, the common knock on him is he's a great paint by numbers QB which is fairly accurate IMO. Technically, he has been on 4 teams (Philly twice).

I thought it was three to be honest. He should not be bouncing around like that if he didn't have some major defect. If the game gets off script too much he mentally breaks down.

By advanced stats, Foles is a middle of the pact, average QB that would be lumped in the category with the Dak Prescotts, Eli Mannings and Joe Flaccos.

He played way over his head in the Eagles SB run, but it was mostly due to them having a super stacked team around him. The same went for Carson Wentz.

Wentz's has accuracy concerns that went back to his rookie season. Even in 2017, he had bad numbers throwing down the field but the Eagles had remedied these problems mainly by surrounded him with elite talent. I'm still not sold on Carson Wentz.

That 2017 Eagles offense was loaded and the people who wrote them off after Wentz's injury that season were underselling them. They were still stacked last year, but were hampered with injuries.


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