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lee909 09-12-2019 11:08 PM

Thursday night football
 

lee909 09-12-2019 11:10 PM

Re: Thursday night football
 
Ron Rivera sucks


Half a yard needed on a 4-1 and you and Norv go gadget play with the game on the line.



This has been trash, the whole game

st thomas 09-13-2019 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 854985)
Ron Rivera sucks


Half a yard needed on a 4-1 and you and Norv go gadget play with the game on the line.



This has been trash, the whole game



HOT SEAT RON

K Major 09-13-2019 08:02 AM

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Both teams were extremely sloppy. Fig Newton looked disinterested in playing last night & the Rams somehow struggled against them last week.

I will give the Bucs some credit on D though. You really can see the improvement led by DC Todd Bowles.

IMO the Saints would have to fall off a cliff in order to lose the NFC South.

st thomas 09-13-2019 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 855034)
Both teams were extremely sloppy. Fig Newton looked disinterested in playing last night & the Rams somehow struggled against them last week.

I will give the Bucs some credit on D though. You really can see the improvement led by DC Todd Bowles.

IMO the Saints would have to fall off a cliff in order to lose the NFC South.



Couldn’t have said it better. Good defense or bad o lines ? Scam on his asre all nite. Couldn’t hit a mizzu dairy barn. So preseason what I saw.

WhoDat!656 09-13-2019 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 855034)
Both teams were extremely sloppy. Fig Newton looked disinterested in playing last night & the Rams somehow struggled against them last week.

I will give the Bucs some credit on D though. You really can see the improvement led by DC Todd Bowles.

IMO the Saints would have to fall off a cliff in order to lose the NFC South.

Be careful what you say about the Saints, they may take it as a challenge!

jeanpierre 09-13-2019 08:33 AM

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Saints and #WhoDatNation are licking their chops after watching that #sh*tshow last night...

CHA_CHING 09-13-2019 08:42 AM

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I watched the 4th quarter in bed last night. Been having some issues with my knees and back due to my conditions, and was hoping this game would've put me to sleep.

It did the opposite despite the circumstances. What is wrong with Cam's arm? He looked as bad last night as he did against us late in the season. He cannot hit a target 10-15 yards down field anymore. Even his check downs were a bit off target.

This was a sloppy game. Carolina's defense played so tough trying to bail them out in that game and yet they dropped multiple interceptions.

Neither one of those teams looked impressive at all. If Carolina had a competent offense, that could've been a blow out win with how solid their defense played. And yet still, all they needed was one of those dropped INTs and they're probably in better shape.

CHA_CHING 09-13-2019 08:44 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 855034)
Both teams were extremely sloppy. Fig Newton looked disinterested in playing last night & the Rams somehow struggled against them last week.

I will give the Bucs some credit on D though. You really can see the improvement led by DC Todd Bowles.

IMO the Saints would have to fall off a cliff in order to lose the NFC South.

I thought both defenses looked well. Carolina's D was trying everything they could to bail out their craptastic offense. They dropped multiple INTs that could've swung that game.

I am not sure if it was Tampa's defense or Cam just playing awful. His throws were so off target last night. Even the short pass check downs were poorly thrown with Olsen struggling to catch some of them.

K Major 09-13-2019 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by CHA_CHING (Post 855043)

I am not sure if it was Tampa's defense or Cam just playing awful. His throws were so off target last night. Even the short pass check downs were poorly thrown with Olsen struggling to catch some of them.

He's still injured (arm)+mentally and physically (See Andrew Luck) battered.

His arm motion is off as if he was laboring to throw.

CHA_CHING 09-13-2019 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 855050)
He's still injured (arm)+mentally and physically (See Andrew Luck) battered.

His arm motion is off as if he was laboring to throw.

Did not know this. I figured he was healthy going into this season.

Now this explains why he isn't running this year.

ScottF 09-13-2019 09:37 AM

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Good result for us:
-no way Riverboat Ron lasts the season- the panthers are known for folding and may pack it in earlier than usual
-this crappy team almost beat the Rams- gotta feel good about this week
-we'll struggle like we always do against TB but we are double-digits better than them

jeanpierre 09-13-2019 10:13 AM

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Yeah, but was he ever really an accurate passer? Sure, he had great passer ratings when he was chucking it downfield for a receiver to make a big gain, but has he ever surgically moved down the field as a passer...

I'm not a Panthers fan nor a Drama Queen fan so I admittedly don't watch him often with the exception of when he plays the Saints and featured games, playoffs...

But in the games I've watched him, about maybe twenty or so, I've never seen him pick apart a defense with accuracy...

CHA_CHING 09-13-2019 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 855060)
Yeah, but was he ever really an accurate passer? Sure, he had great passer ratings when he was chucking it downfield for a receiver to make a big gain, but has he ever surgically moved down the field as a passer...

I'm not a Panthers fan nor a Drama Queen fan so I admittedly don't watch him often with the exception of when he plays the Saints and featured games, playoffs...

But in the games I've watched him, about maybe twenty or so, I've never seen him pick apart a defense with accuracy...

Cam had some big games against us in the past where Carolina had put up 30+ points and took us to the wire.

I've always dreaded playing the Rivera/Newton Panthers cause they are so unpredictable. At least with Atlanta and Tampa Bay, you have a sense of what to expect. Cam is an up and down, hot and cold quarterback. You never know which version of him is going to show up game to game. On the defensive side, Carolina had some great games against us at various points where they could completely shut our offense down. I don't doubt Brees when he said Kuechley was the best LB he's ever faced.

st thomas 09-13-2019 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by CHA_CHING (Post 855070)
Cam had some big games against us in the past where Carolina had put up 30+ points and took us to the wire.

I've always dreaded playing the Rivera/Newton Panthers cause they are so unpredictable. At least with Atlanta and Tampa Bay, you have a sense of what to expect. Cam is an up and down, hot and cold quarterback. You never know which version of him is going to show up game to game. On the defensive side, Carolina had some great games against us at various points where they could completely shut our offense down. I don't doubt Brees when he said Kuechley was the best LB he's ever faced.



Steven A says the not done he’s not done. But almost done , he was so funny about it.

K Major 09-13-2019 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 855079)
Steven A says the not done he’s not done. But almost done , he was so funny about it.

Saw a recent stat on Fig Newton ...

Last 4 games - 3 INT's, 2 fumbles and 0 TD's. Those type numbers will get his HC fired.

Unfortunately, we won't face the Panthers until late November.

jeanpierre 09-13-2019 01:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CHA_CHING (Post 855070)
Cam had some big games against us in the past where Carolina had put up 30+ points and took us to the wire.

I've always dreaded playing the Rivera/Newton Panthers cause they are so unpredictable. At least with Atlanta and Tampa Bay, you have a sense of what to expect. Cam is an up and down, hot and cold quarterback. You never know which version of him is going to show up game to game. On the defensive side, Carolina had some great games against us at various points where they could completely shut our offense down. I don't doubt Brees when he said Kuechley was the best LB he's ever faced.

In those games Ching, it was deep pass plays against DBs that gave up the big pass play or Cam and his RBs ran on us - he never methodically picked apart a defense...

SmashMouth 09-14-2019 03:39 AM

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FinSaint 09-14-2019 07:29 AM

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Who knows... If Cam is ready to pack it in like Luck did, the Panthers might give the Dolphins a run for their money on getting Tua Tagovailoa in next year's draft.

His body language in the game and in the post-game interviews were not good - doesn't seem like a guy who is enjoying playing the game at the moment.

CHA_CHING 09-14-2019 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 855081)
In those games Ching, it was deep pass plays against DBs that gave up the big pass play or Cam and his RBs ran on us - he never methodically picked apart a defense...


His biggest game against us came in 2015, I had to look it up.

41-38 loss for us in the dome. That game. You know the one where we got all the horrible calls that led to Carolina's comeback.... We were spanking them and then it all turned around on us after some horrible calls.

Newton had 331 yards and 5 TD passes in that game. Carolina had 104 yards in penalties alone.

The 2015 Panthers are a weird team statistically. There was evidence to suggest they were the worst team to ever start 8-0. They were Jekyll and Hyde all season; blowing out teams one week, then barely squeaking by to horrible teams they should've been blowing out. They also gave up big leads (see their game vs the Giants and in the playoffs vs Seattle) which is not a good stat for a SB contender, let alone a team that finishes 15-1. I remember telling people all year that Carolina was benefiting from the rest of the NFC South being trash that year and a truly bad NFC. This was also the season Arizona went 13-3 but got destroyed in the playoffs and never really looked that great after the half way point of the season. Green Bay started out 5-0, got destroyed by Denver and that began the decline of Aaron Rodgers. The AFC was better that year with Denver, New England, Pittsburgh and Cincy looked like a legit contender before Dalton's injury.

At the end of the year, Cam had his most dominant stretch as a passer. Starting in week 13 vs us and leading up to the SB, he was averaging around 250-300 passing yards, his completion percentage shot up to around 73.1% and he only threw 2 INTs during that time span. He still ended up having a dud game against Atlanta, but this stretch of games was the big argument in why he won MVP that year.

Slightly off topic - 2015 truly was a weak year for MVP. Cam won it mostly cause his team was 15-1 and unbeatable. But in that year, Peyton Manning was a shell of his former self and this was the season Aaron Rodgers' massive decline began. Brees had a great year but the Saints were 7-9 and on the other side of the ball, Von Miller should've been in consideration but no one wants to give the award to a defensive player.

And yet despite that, we all know how it ended once they got to the SB. Cam turned back into his old self after getting hit a few times by the Broncos defense... Carolina went that whole year not playing any physical defenses, then slammed into a brick wall the minute they had to face a nasty unit that wasn't scared to hit them hard.

RailBoss 09-14-2019 10:00 PM

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Scam Newton + Gregg Olsen = Lame Ducks


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