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The ratings dive amounts to a 10-year low for the NFL and NBC. Over virtue seasoning causes a lot of dishes to go back to the kitchen. That's ok. Many of us will wait. Just fix it.


And not virus related. It should be more viewership with more home, not less. It should be an all time high. Nothing else to do. Chlorine in the drinking water is good. Kills a lot of bad stuff. Put too much though and it starts killing people because it's a POISON. There is a balance.

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Can't say I'm surprised the numbers are down. Actually just surprised that people are surprised.

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No doubt a 10 year low for NFL and NBC. The comparisons are against the NBC Sunday Night Football numbers which are always the highest rated NFL games every week.

Last season's opener was broadcast by FOX, not NBC. The NBA playoffs, the NHL playoffs and the US Open were all on at the same time this year ... none of which were competing for time against previous NFL season openers.

As it was it was by many times over the most watched program during the 8 PM-11 PM time slot last night.

Apples and oranges, my friend. :D But, by all means, you keep boycotting if it makes you feel better about yourself.

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Oh, and television revenues were UP by double digits over last year's season opener. That's the number that counts.

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Numbers should be sky high. Most can't eat out or go anywhere. If you want to ignore that fact then that is your right. Thankfully people like your father an myself fought for your right to say whatever nonsense you want at anytime. Just so long as you don't hurt anyone physically or financially. Disgraceful use of that freedom but I allowed you to have it so have fun.

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And you, of course, have your right to share your brand of nonsense. All I know is I have my NFL and my Saints football and I couldn't be any happier.

Who Dat!!

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My brand of nonsense is fighting for your freedom to perpetuate your brand of nonsense. As long as it doesn't hurt anyone physically or financially carry on.

Reality is ratings are down. Last I checked it's -16 plus %. If you don't want to have any honor and accept that fine, please continue. I do fight for your freedom to peddle nonsense. I may call it out but I gave you this right. I earned it for you. Me and your Dad.

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This made me laugh out loud, a lot. Another “Oof” moment, perfectly valid and deserved..., lol, but still, Oof.

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Last I checked only one game of sixteen have been played this week, right? The initial ratings as compared to the FOX broadcast of the first Thursday night game is down at this time, but it is comparing apples to oranges. Kansas City and the Texans are both among the lower end of rating drawers to begin with. On top of that it was up against two playoff games AND the semi-finals of the US Open primetime broadcast. By the way, it still drew far more viewership than all three of those combined. Let's see what Sunday night's NBC numbers look like compared to last year's NBC Sunday night numbers. If they are down you might be onto something. Less viewers. But, not less revenues. Revenues are not tied to viewership numbers. They are tied to advertising.

You see, advertisers have fixed budgets for their advertising dollars. The pandemic has brought a halt to the production of new programming. The advertisers are not wanting to put their money behind repeats. That is why revenues were up in last night's game by over 10% over last year's. Even if for some reason NFL viewership was to be down by a small margin it is still going to be the highest rated shows on TV every week by a colossal margin. That you cannot deny. The NFL, especially in today's television market, gives advertisers by far their greatest bang for the buck.

After all is said and done, I expect, as do the experts, that viewership will be up on the whole and without a doubt advertising revenues are going to be up regardless of the final level of ratings. This, of course, can change if NOBODY watches, but it is already apparent that is not to be the case.

Oh, and once again, thanks for your service and there is no need for you trying to shed any light upon my father's service ... I was right there for all thirty years and knew him and learned from him for my first 58 years of life. I have had a few thousand more conversations with him than have you about everything including politics and human rights.

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I hope you read what I just replied concerning my father. I take what Beast said as an insult to my father's memory. I knew and loved him and respected him more than either of you. I knew where he stood on issues and it helped form my own personal beliefs. I also take the fact that you find it so humorous and valid and deserved then I take that as added insult.

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Revenues are up for many reasons, including very wealthy corporations who, regardless of numbers of viewers, are willing to pour a ton of money into the NFL for the social justice platform alone. But mainly bc last year 41 of the top 50 most watched TV events were NFL owned and operated! That’s not insignificant. Viewer population (aka product consumption) is something that defines the quality of a product, any product. Revenues can be astronomical even if a product isn’t even marketed and sold (consumed), it just means that the company who is advertising their idea is wealthy, extremely wealthy. And once again, US company’s are stupidly wealthy, at least the ones that advertise on an NFL product.

And the viewer numbers were an absolute apples to apples comparison. It wasn’t a weighted average of all the games in a season. That rating that Beast is discussing is Opening night 2020 NFL to Opening night 2019 viewers. It doesn’t get much more of a fair comparison. Who knows what the future ratings brings? We’re all just guessing on that one. What we DO know is that ratings from opening night last year to opening night this year was double digits lower. Not to mention the apparently very audible boo birds that even had players on the field tweeting “WTH” folks.

Lastly, nobody would be discussing your father had you not introduced the element into the conversation.

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YOU

placed your father in this position though. You unambiguously have my apology for the discomfort I have caused you though.

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I would love to have a conversation with your Dad with you present. Unfortunately all I have is someone who never served a day in the military speaking like they actually did and they are the incarnation of their father and their father's entire military service to include all their father's opinions on every single topic. I love the hell out of my Dad but even I will admit some of his views on shLt were totally effed up.

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Sorry, gs1, but it isn't apples to apples. The first game last year had no competition from other televised sporting events. The 2019 opener was on FOX, the 2019 on NBC. The US Open was not on at the time in 2019. The semi-finals were on during the game last night. The NBA and NHL seasons were both long over and didn't have games on in the same time slot in 2019. Last night there were NBA, NHL and WNBA games in that time slot. Many fans of other sports move on to the NFL because their sport of choice has finished. That was the case in 2019. That definitely was not the case in 2020. Explain to me how that qualifies as apples to apples? Perhaps a Apple laptop to a lap full of applesauce? ;)

Seriously, how is that a level statistical baseline for comparison? By the way, I did spend over 25 years as a senior business/data analyst so this is well within my realm of expertise.

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I'd love to have those same conversations with you and him. Maybe you would learn a few important lessons. One thing my Dad told me was that you can't judge a man without being in his skin. He added that only God can do that. Dad was also a church deacon and sang in the church choir until his cancer got so bad he could no longer sit. I have never claimed to know everything about what it is like to be in the military.

I have a question for you ... was your father in the military? Did he serve during Nam, or elsewhere during wartime? Before going on I want to know that answer, if you don't mind. Seriously, Beast.

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There WERE other TV shows on last year that were directly competing, equally if not more than the NBA, the NHL or lol, the WNBA. I care less what your personal experiences are/were, they mean nothing to me bc they are unverifiable, in all truthiness you could be lying just to try and advance an ideal you want propagated. I do not know you from Elmer Fudd, nor do you me. Neither of us should be afforded some level of expertise about anything.

It is a direct comparison bc it is opening night NFL 2020 to Opening night NFL 2019. And that’s just a fact. What’s going on in the world or on other channels is unimportant to me. They existed in 2019 equally as much as 2020. Full disclosure though, I haven’t seen a live start to end NHL, NBA, or WNBA game, well, ever in my 52 years of existence on this planet. So my bias is that I place no importance on them.

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Continue to follow along, my new friend. And, no, what I learned from my father influenced placing ME in this position.

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I take no passion or prejudice when discussing the deceased. I hope they find peace.

If someone however wants to speak for them through a Ouija board or some other medium then sure. Let's have this discussion so I can speak my peace as well.

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The fact that YOU place no importance on them is not relevant. :rolleyes:

I'm right there with you on the importance personally of those other sports, but to a distinct subset of sports fans it does matter so the fact that those seasons or events had taken place and were over months earlier in 2019 has a very real and very concrete effect when measuring the data relationships between the opening day ratings of the 2019 and 2020 NFL seasons.

Sorry.

Oh, I can send you references on my work history if that will ease your concerns. LOL! Suffice to say that I spent those years with Arkla Gas (and it's many rebrandings) and the Willis Knighton Heath System. Happily retired now.

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Just in my special memories. Now, I ask again ... was your father in the military? Did he serve during Nam, or elsewhere during wartime?

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Good Lord. If I never discuss any of my family, the nobody can, or should, dispute the validity of them or their beliefs. Bringing them up in a public forum invites that discourse.

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Not bringing my father into the discussion. He could be a war hero or not. Doesn't matter. On a very personal level though I know what it's like going outside the wire on on over 100 combat missions and feeling sick to my stomach that people are trying to fvcking kill me daily. They damn near succeeded.

Then I come back inside the wire to see people disgracing me and everyone I serve with that provides their freedom. Not even poor people either. People that live in the lap of luxury complaining and people that don't even vote like 80% of the NBA.

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Have you discussed any of that or relayed any of that to your children or wife? Yes. The military, especially from Nam on, have got **** upon. There is no doubting that. My Dad's late brother, Terry (everyone knew him as Hardrock, or just Rock) had his leg blown off when his buddy stepped on a mine beside him. I answered the call from the family letting us know when my parents were still at work. I was nine.

We as a family lived in fear every day while my dad was flying those missions and hearing about those planes going down. A good friend of Dad's was among those downed. He spent several years at the Hanoi Hilton and returned without both his legs. He was a regular visitor to our house for many years after.

Was I serving in the military? No. But as most other dependents and spouses of wartime military we lived through very real parts of the horror as well! As I shared in an earlier thread, my very own life and my left leg was saved by those USAF surgeons that were saving lives and legs of kids only two years older than me. I was sixteen.

Was I in your skin? No. Were you in mine? No. Are we in others ... no.

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I am alive and know the price. I paid damn near in full. My battle buddies that died paid in full.

You paid nothing. 0.0. Adding your relatives still equals your contribution.

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Never was your life in danger. Trying to compare yourself to people who's lives were actually in danger and people that were scared as hell day in an day out is beyond pathetic. You never served.


You are not special for seeing people wounded. I saw it for over a year and I was wounded. I talked to them daily. Went through treatment with them. You did nothing.

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Where is burningmetal? His house is on fire again and it isn't a fire. 🙄

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What you went through was horrible. Absolutely.

Now, what does that have to do with others living their own horrors on the streets of America? Why are you not so ready to understand their terrors? You've been through Hell, man. This isn't a fvcking contest to compare Hell. I honor and respect and feel for your pain, but be open to others with different pain, yet just as real.

God bless you. May God lay his hand upon you and bring you healing. You are not alone in your suffering. Reach out to others that can help. Seriously.

:(

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I'm done suffering and do not need help. I only needed a damn good doctor which I did get to fix my body. Not everyone is a weak azz panzie who can't handle personal grief. I don't want or need your empathy or sympathy or anyone else's. That part of my life is over.

Just stop disrespecting the people that provide the freedom and security for the country. They get it right 99% of the time. We do not burn down cities, kill innocent people and loot businesses for that 1%. They will never be perfect. Nobody is perfect. We have a legal system to deal with them just like Darren Sharper and Mark Ingram's Daddy. We don't burn down the Superdome.