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saintfan · 08-20-2004, 04:52 PM

What I\'m trying to do ScottyRo is figure out how it is that people think they have the right to make this sort of decision on behalf of someone else. Someone they don\'t know. Someone who\'s circumstances they are totally unaware of, simply because they think they\'re right. The law doesn\'t give you that right. Society has told you that you don\'t have that right, and yet you\'re still at it, and I wonder why?

You responded to Elvis and made fun of the cow, but you didn\'t answer the question I most wanted you to answer. WHY do you feel this way? Why is killing the cow for veal so much different than killing the baby to save the mothers life or because SHE made the personal decision to abort it? YOU tell ME where\'s the difference, and tell me WHY you feel that way, and then explain to me how come you\'re right and I\'m wrong.

Dude, it\'s not about a worst case scenario. You don\'t care about the scenario. That\'s my whole point. You just think you\'re right...period. You can\'t see past it.

The ropes must be nawing into your back pretty badly, if you\'re really gonna use a worst case scenario argument on me. I\'ve stated many times that there are more difficult questions buried in this debate that we should not really go into because the length of the simple debate is so long.

You\'re right there man. This gets REALLY deep. It\'s your opinion versus someone elses versus someone elses. Now, if you\'re not propping yourself up with religion and the \"Good book\" then what is it? It is my opinion that when you recognize that everyone doesn\'t think the way you think or think way you think they should think then you\'ll understand. But not until then. You\'ll still think abortion is wrong, but you\'ll have faith in the fact that you\'re not in control (nor should you be) of what a woman does in that situation.

Do you show up at abortion clinics and councel women about to have the procedure?

Do you show up at prisons prior to an execution and councel the executioner?

Do you protest War?

Do you go to inner city neighborhoods and council folks there in crack houses before they go bust a cap in somebody for their next blow?

No? Why not? Because the fetus doesn\'t have a voice? Please! Why have you chosen the abortion issue when I\'d bet good money you don\'t do any of these other things. What gives man? Whether or not that baby (or whatever it is) is alive at point \"a\" or \"b\", why not spend all that energy on people that are living minus the debate about whether or not they are? I wonder.

08-20-2004, 04:52 PM	#11
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Politics What I\'m trying to do ScottyRo is figure out how it is that people think they have the right to make this sort of decision on behalf of someone else. Someone they don\'t know. Someone who\'s circumstances they are totally unaware of, simply because they think they\'re right. The law doesn\'t give you that right. Society has told you that you don\'t have that right, and yet you\'re still at it, and I wonder why? You responded to Elvis and made fun of the cow, but you didn\'t answer the question I most wanted you to answer. WHY do you feel this way? Why is killing the cow for veal so much different than killing the baby to save the mothers life or because SHE made the personal decision to abort it? YOU tell ME where\'s the difference, and tell me WHY you feel that way, and then explain to me how come you\'re right and I\'m wrong. Dude, it\'s not about a worst case scenario. You don\'t care about the scenario. That\'s my whole point. You just think you\'re right...period. You can\'t see past it. The ropes must be nawing into your back pretty badly, if you\'re really gonna use a worst case scenario argument on me. I\'ve stated many times that there are more difficult questions buried in this debate that we should not really go into because the length of the simple debate is so long. You\'re right there man. This gets REALLY deep. It\'s your opinion versus someone elses versus someone elses. Now, if you\'re not propping yourself up with religion and the \"Good book\" then what is it? It is my opinion that when you recognize that everyone doesn\'t think the way you think or think way you think they should think then you\'ll understand. But not until then. You\'ll still think abortion is wrong, but you\'ll have faith in the fact that you\'re not in control (nor should you be) of what a woman does in that situation. Do you show up at abortion clinics and councel women about to have the procedure? Do you show up at prisons prior to an execution and councel the executioner? Do you protest War? Do you go to inner city neighborhoods and council folks there in crack houses before they go bust a cap in somebody for their next blow? No? Why not? Because the fetus doesn\'t have a voice? Please! Why have you chosen the abortion issue when I\'d bet good money you don\'t do any of these other things. What gives man? Whether or not that baby (or whatever it is) is alive at point \"a\" or \"b\", why not spend all that energy on people that are living minus the debate about whether or not they are? I wonder.
	C'mon Man...