dodgelsu and coleh21
 

i've been reading past forums and was wondering why coleh21 and dodge lsu have been banned. they had some pretty good points and should not have been banned. this is a football website for heavens sake where different opinions are welcomed.

BRING BACK DODGELSU AND COLEH21 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dodgelsu and coleh21
 

great this guy has a new name now.

dodgelsu and coleh21
 

are we going to have to hear about how good venturi is again?

dodgelsu and coleh21
 

:xxrotflmao: :rollinglaugh:

Good joke, man, you really had me going.

dodgelsu and coleh21
 

so if someone says venturi is good then they are banned from this site. what kind of fascist oppresive site is this. what happenned to freedom of speech.

dodgelsu and coleh21 are definitely the freedom fighters for this website and you guys are the terrorists destroying this site

dodgelsu and coleh21
 

:rollinglaugh: :rollinglaugh: :rollinglaugh: :rollinglaugh:

This is just TOO funny!

dodgelsu and coleh21
 

Got me banned to at my own house CCook2, and I HATE Ricky V...But no one will help me get unbanned because of them two.

dodgelsu and coleh21
 

stedog i feel for you really ,but your house is part of a systematic extermination of saints fans who express their opinions. your just a poor kid whose caught in the middle of this tradgedy.

[Edited on 6/10/2004 by ccook2]

[Edited on 6/10/2004 by ccook2]

dodgelsu and coleh21
 

Hey cook I would get off the subject really quick and if you think that the aforementioned character, because it was just one person brought any value to this board I would strongly suggest that your days are numbered also. Yes everyone opinion is welcome, but insighting a riot is not covered by our constitution.

dodgelsu and coleh21
 

Here we go again. I didnt know they were banned, just thought they ran out of compliments for the second to last ranked defense in the league.

dodgelsu and coleh21
 

:greenchainsaw:

dodgelsu and coleh21
 

I love the \"freedom of speech\" argument. Hey, buddy, what happens on this site is up to the descretion of the owners. You have the freedom to either post and suffer the consequences or walk away. They have the right, as owners, to edit ignorance on their site. It\'s just that easy. Like if you were to walk up into my business and start spouting off about the Falcons. Yeah, you have the right to speech, but don\'t question why I kick your ass to the curb afterwards.

dodgelsu and coleh21
 

I need to check this board more often. :xxrotflmao: :rollinglaugh: :lol: :peer:

dodgelsu and coleh21
 

Haven\'t I heard this somewhere before?

:rauch06:

dodgelsu and coleh21
 

There\'s a slight difference in the argument made here and the argument you\'re referring to.

The argument here is that a person should have the right to say whatever he wants on this board. The defense is easy - this is privately owned and operated, and the content can be controlled by the moderators empowered by the owners.

The argument you refer to was more along the lines of, I\'m a moderator and thus free to make comments about you (and other people). If you don\'t like it, leave.

In the second case, the individual moderator is breaching the generally accepted rules of the board promulgated by the owners and moderators in unison. He is in essence operating with imunity b/c of his title where other \'normal\' members are held to a higher standard. Ultimately, the owner can allow whatever he wants. Still, there\'s a difference b/w banning certain content outright to support the purpose of the site, and allowing one moderator to operate with imunity in ways that violate the spirit of the rules.

Does that clear things up for you? :)

dodgelsu and coleh21
 

Not at all. What seems to have your panties in a wad is that I think you have an agenda. I have thought that (and stated that) for nearly three years...and WELL before I became a Moderator. You and Gator use the Moderator argument as a means to an end -- but it\'s failed miserably, and, based on YOUR recent comments as a \"Moderator\" (among one\'s made prior to that time) I suspect it will continue to fail mostly because you and Gator have done as much and likely more of what you accuse me of than nearly anyone else here. I don\'t call you names or attack you in the same manner that you and those you support attack me. I have the right to say you have an agenda...period. Once again you miss the WHOLE point while you try and focus on ME.

Again, your buddies (and you) are every bit as guilty (and in some cases even more so) of everything you have accused me of and yet you fail to mention them...to you this is all about me. Looks like you\'ll just have to get on over it I guess. ;)

This is Gator\'s little band wagon that he slowed down long enough for you to jump on. You accuse me of \"personal attacks\" right? Lets see...in the last week you have accused me of being \"Brooks\' Lover\" and have called me \"Casper\" on numerous occasions. Is this what you consider to be acceptable behavior from a MODERATOR?

Now, in the same time frame have I called you any names? No. Have I said one word about you being anyone\'s \"lover\"? No. Have I accused you of having an agenda? You BETCHA! I\'m I allowed to do that, moderator or not? Uh Huh. Is name calling against the rules. Why, yes sir it is.

I accuse you of having at least ONE agenda, but likely more than that lately. That\'s allowed much to your dismay; however, technically, the \"lover\" and \"Casper\" comments you\'ve made recently are not. I see it all in good fun -- and always have -- you seem to have a real problem. I say oh well. If you don\'t want your statements commented on better not post \'em. ;)

dodgelsu and coleh21
 

Ah, I see your angle here. OK. Two can play. I guess I can\'t call you an idiot, but I CAN say that you really don\'t know anything about anything. I can\'t say that YOU are stupid, but I can say that everything you said in your post is stupid. I can\'t call you a liar, but I can saying you\'re lying. That\'s the way we want to play it? OK, fair enough.

dodgelsu and coleh21
 

You can make any assumptions you want. If you think your opinion really matters that much then go right ahead. If, on the other hand you and Gator want this place to be steril then start another one of your little polls. Do you deny making the \"lover\" comment or the \"casper\" comment? Funny how you skirt that. You\'ve BEEN skirting that for a few days now. You have accused me, time and again, long ago and recently, of having said things I haven\'t said. There is a recent thread where you made such statements where I\'m still waiting on a response -- for you to prove what you say is true -- but you\'ve skirted that one too. Typical.

Based on your recent attacks on me you are already quite familiar with the rules -- you just wanted them to apply ONLY to me. 08 has a history of takin pot shots at me as I do to him, yet you seem to only want to acknowledge my posts. Gator has a history of flaming people -- even got banned for it -- and yet I have NEVER seen you call him on it. In fact, you defend both of the afore mentioned posters regularly. This is hypocritical don\'t you think?

You and BlandandBlue spar regularly with comments about being gay and sisters and such. Do I step in? No. I spar regularly with 08 and you are there at every turn -- especially lately. Why? I say the \"why\" is your most recent agenda...and I\'d bet I\'m right.

See, it\'s not just my comments where YOU are concerned, but it\'s my comments where 08, Gator, and others are concerned. In the last month you have, all of a sudden, become the protector of what you, on one hand, call fair play, and, on the other hand, do yourself.

Hypocritical to be sure.

dodgelsu and coleh21
 

Not at all. In fact, I told you I was going to do it before I did it. I argued with you and tried to make your actions clear to you. You denied it. So I told you that I would act towards you the same way that you act towards Gator, 08, and myself. I\'m not trying to sanction you, I\'m trying to hold you to the same standard everyone else is held to. You didn\'t want to do that, so I treat you the same way you treat a few of us. You\'re right that my comments are directed at you. You\'re right that they\'re attacks - how do you like it?

In any case, say whatever you want. I\'m just not going to let your TRANSPARENT arguments and uneducated or uninformed attacks go unchecked. Happy posting. :)

dodgelsu and coleh21
 

Then by all means continue to break the rules you whine so much about, and I\'ll grin from ear to ear each and every time I am provided with an oppurtunity to edit your posts.

Maybe after a while we can count the number of edits and see who wins. Wanna? I\'m already up 2-0. ;)

dodgelsu and coleh21
 

Bland? Man, you really know how to cut a brother :P

dodgelsu and coleh21
 

You\'ll have to forgive me. I\'m dealing with Whodat on numerous fronts these days. To his credit he\'s comin from many different angles.

Bottom line tho man is I sent him an e-mail earlier. He refused to even read it. He\'s bent on keeping this going, and he doesn\'t want it done in private. He wants this to be a public battle.

Again, sorry for the Typo.

dodgelsu and coleh21
 

I just wish the two of you could patch this **** up, you both bring value to the boards, why can\'t you co-exist? What impact, exactly, does a personal attack on a message board have? The creative one\'s make me laugh, regardless of the poster and who it\'s directed at, even if it is myself. I view it as entertainment, but it would appear that this is personal, for both of you. Work it out...neither one is going to change the other\'s mind. So why bother? There\'s only a handful of members here that I would talk to like this, if I hadn\'t talked Saints football with you guys over the years, I would do my best to belittle him/her until the person left completely. I\'m pretty sure Danno is gone, which in my opinion is BS, but I don\'t want anyone from the inner circle to leave. Now, out of respect for both of you, I\'m asking- can you coexist?

dodgelsu and coleh21
 

We\'ve co-existed for 3 years. This is a recent development. If someone is hell bent then that\'s just what they are...hell bent. If that person won\'t deal with the situation in private what does that tell you?

Speakin for myself only, it\'s not personal. It never has been. I get along with people I disagree with and the banter doesn\'t bother me. Like you, I\'m typically entertained by it all.

Quite frankly it appears Whodat is going to drag this out, purposefully, until all hell does, in fact, break loose. This is why I had to beg initially just to get him to the EE board (He and Gator).

Can we co-exist? Sure, we have been doing it for three years. But whatever his issues are with me should be delt with in private and the rest of the board spared. If he refuses, which he has, I\'m forced to assume he\'s interested is dragging this out to some sort of conclusion. What that conclusion is I don\'t know (but I think any resonable person can assume what his motive is). Shall this board be ruled by the rules he wants me and only me to follow? I can tell you I will continue to post as I have always done, and I will edit his comments as necessary until he gets over whatever it is that is his problem.

dodgelsu and coleh21
 

I didn\'t read most of it b/c it was 10 paragraphs long and started with you suggesting that I, 08, Gator, or BMG(??) posted a childish anonymous thread about you. That was AFTER I gave you a heads up that I had deleted the thread - neither of which I HAD to do.

Further, I didn\'t read it b/c I thought it would piss me off, and I want this to end. I am not backing off my position in any way, but I am tired of fighting with you. If it is that important to you, I will go read that PM.

BnB - thanks for stepping in to \"moderate.\" HA!

I agree that we shuoldn\'t bother. I appreciate your gesture here and, yes, we can coexist. My bigget problem is SF following me around the boards and simply posting the equivalent of \"AGENDA\" after everything I post. Drop the agenda talk and debate me on the football issues and I\'ll never have a problem. Throwing jovial comments back and forth, as you and I do, does not offend or annoy me. However, suggesting after EVERY post I make that I only made it for ignorant or malicious reasons just gets annoying.

These are the kind of comments that drive me insane. I\'ll tell you what, you edit me where you see fit, and I\'ll edit you where I see fit. Implications that speak to a person\'s character will be viewed as attacks. Drop the agenda crap and talk football and there\'s no problem. That\'s why I didn\'t read you PM. That\'s all it takes.