Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 226348)

What?!?! He doesn't want money ... and more endorsements... and perhaps part ownership of a franchise ... besides a championship, that is? The Cavs have a Billionaire Owner?

Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 226353)

What he wants is Zooey. Who could blame him. ;)

Originally Posted by CantonLegend (Post 226175)

lmao you are criticising lebron for his team not being as good and crediting kobe for his team being better?

wtf goes through your head when you write this stuff

as ive shown, lebron does everything better than kobe except shoot jumpers

your post is a typical response of a person who has little to offer to this debate other than a biased opinion

lebron is one of the best passers in the league.....and arguably the best passing forward the game has ever seen

he dunks as well as anyone and probably better than everyone

his speed and strength have allowed him to patent the chase down block that he has made so famous

he averages more steals and more blocks on defense which has little to nothing to do with his supporting cast

he already has more league MVPs than kobe bryant

he has played in the league 8 years less than kobe and the only thing he hasnt accomplished that kobe has is winning a championship

i argued for years that kobe was the better of the 2 players....but numbers dont lie dude

even in the games where people claimed lebron quit he was still the best player on the court and finished what was possibly his last game as a cavalier with a triple double....27-19-10

and as for career stats....lebron has better numbers than kobe in just about every important category

tell me again what kobe does better

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 226417)

Especially with a cool kitty like that!

Will we be seeing ya at Buds Friday night?

Originally Posted by FatCitySaint (Post 226418)

Are you daft!???? I said he does everything better but rebound!!!!!:rolleyes:

What do you mean his team doesn't have anything to do with it!!!! Of course it does! If your team sux ... and you take all the shots ... your stats are skewed!!! Untill people have to respect his shot (which they as of now do NOT) He will never be great .... just over hyped!!!! Anyone with any sense that really follows the game knows this to be true.

I could care less dude .... Keep Queen James ... and keep losing the big games...... i don't care! He sells tickets, and the media has made him bigger than life .... all of that dos not make him great ..... ;)

You go up and down the roster of the LAkers .... then do the same with the Cav's ...... I need to say nothing more!

Originally Posted by CantonLegend (Post 226445)

the cavs won more games than the lakers this season and finished with a higher seed for the playoffs

then the lakers get a cake walk to the finals while the cavs play 2 of the better teams in the east and had arguably the best team in the east waiting for them in the eastern conference finals

the lakers have a better team? do they? they have better individual players....but not a better team, as evidenced by the fact that the cavs won more games

in the playoffs, the lakers had a better team when it counted

aside from advance against weak competition, what have the lakers done better than the cavs?......nada

you think for some reason that your post has any factual information in it

you said the only thing lebron does better than kobe is rebound but there isnt a single stat the kobe has better than lebron except free throw percentage

however, lebron has attempted and made more free throws than kobe so im not sure the you can even say that

better shooter? lebron took 41 less shots than kobe and made 52 more shots than kobe......so even his shooting percentage is better

and 3 pointers? lebron took 86 more than kobe and made 30 more at 33.3% compared to 32.9%

so kobe isnt even really a better or more efficient shooter than lebron

so try again scout

Originally Posted by FatCitySaint (Post 226451)

Stats are misleading .... and does not always tell the tale. You keep spouting stats .... thats fine. The FACT is ,as you stated, Once again The Queen is going home to watch the finals. Not only is he going home....BUT HE is a MAJOR reason why they are done. His last game against Boston was a classic LJ choke-a-thon!!!!! Dude tried to show off his jumper ... well ... we see how that turned out!!!!! What was it..... no points till the 3rd quarter!!!!..... are you kidding me!!! ..... Thats greatness to you!? PFFFT!!! You losers in Cleveland can have him!!! PEACE;)

Originally Posted by FatCitySaint (Post 226451)

Stats are misleading .... and does not always tell the tale. You keep spouting stats .... thats fine. The FACT is ,as you stated, Once again The Queen is going home to watch the finals. Not only is he going home....BUT HE is a MAJOR reason why they are done. His last game against Boston was a classic LJ choke-a-thon!!!!! Dude tried to show off his jumper ... well ... we see how that turned out!!!!! What was it..... no points till the 3rd quarter!!!!..... are you kidding me!!! ..... Thats greatness to you!? PFFFT!!! You losers in Cleveland can have him!!! PEACE;)

Go Troll the Browns forum ......:whatever:

Originally Posted by strato (Post 226452)

Hey man i will take that loser here in H-town and we will win a few championships..i promise you that...we took La to seven last yr with a bunch of midgets...give us L.B and we would dominate...GO ROCKETS!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by CantonLegend (Post 226453)

lmao his last game?

27-19-10?

thats not a choke.....thats the MVP playing his heart out

the game before pissed a lot of people off but he has never quit in his entire career and you cant look at 1 game and sum lebron up.....his work speaks for itself

numbers dont lie....numbers can be misleading....but not those numbers.....those numbers say that lebron is a more efficient shooter despite taking more shots....WHICH MEANS HES A BETTER SHOOTER THAN KOBE

he shoots 3% better than kobe because his team isnt as good? so would he shoot worse if his team was better? thats nonsense

you just sound like a jealous fan who argues from his heart more than from his head

think about what you're saying because factually, it doesnt make sense

regardless of where lebron ends up, hes still a better player than kobe....in every sense of the word

Originally Posted by FatCitySaint (Post 226454)

Look man. LJ is good. He just is not great. He is overrated... thats all im saying. You want him in H town....go get him. I do not want him in The Big Easy!!!! If he had a consistant jump shot....then I have no doubt....the guy would be unstoppable!!!! He can one hand it in from half court..... but can't consistently hit a 17 footer!??? lol???? Practice your shot LJ... and quit believing all the hype about you!;)

Originally Posted by strato (Post 226456)

WTF..you would cut backflips if he landed in Nola

Originally Posted by FatCitySaint (Post 226455)

You can quote any stat you want!!!! But you will never have anyone in their right mind believe that LJ has a better shot than KB!!!! That's just stupid!

Originally Posted by CantonLegend (Post 226460)

some people believe

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Originally Posted by FatCitySaint (Post 226462)

Some people live in Cleveland too.....doesnt make it right!;)

Originally Posted by FatCitySaint (Post 226465)

15 Reasons Cavs and LeBron Were Overrated, Kobe Tops "The King" | Bleacher Report

We could do this all day!:rolleyes:

Point number to should get your attention!

Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 226471)

You guys should read Donagy's book.

Originally Posted by FatCitySaint (Post 226470)

Fact is....KB probably on his way to get another ring this year.... And while sitting at home the Queen is still trying to figure out how to sink that clutch 17 footer.....the one that KB has done a thousand times!!!! Thats a fact for you!

Originally Posted by CantonLegend (Post 226500)

is clutch at the end of the game with 10 seconds left?

or is clutch in the 1st qtr when you go off for 17 unanswered points all by yourself?

Originally Posted by Saint_LB (Post 226517)

the former...

Originally Posted by CantonLegend (Post 226526)

lol lbj doesnt get those opportunities like i said because we are always up by 20

you cant say he isnt clutch if he hasnt had those chances

Originally Posted by CantonLegend (Post 226500)

or is clutch in the 1st qtr when you go off for 17 unanswered points all by yourself? cuz i know lebron can do that and has done that

Originally Posted by FatCitySaint (Post 226529)

Thats the biggest bag of **** and you know it!!!

Originally Posted by saintpaul25 (Post 226572)

I think Vince McMahon should buy the NBA. He could make the story lines way more interesting, and he wouldn't be afraid to tell the world it's all fake..... I would like to see Kobe get choke slammed by the Big Show, on his way for the dunk!

Originally Posted by saintpaul25 (Post 226572)

I think Vince McMahon should buy the NBA. He could make the story lines way more interesting, and he wouldn't be afraid to tell the world it's all fake..... I would like to see Kobe get choke slammed by the Big Show, on his way for the dunk!

Originally Posted by CantonLegend (Post 226585)

really when has he had these opportunities? i know kobe gets them almost on a nightly basis

the cavs are either blowing teams out, or being blown out....but lets not discount the 3 at the buzzer he hit just last season in the eastern conference finals against orlando



yep...use something 5 years ago to prove that someone is better today?

but i know lebron has more 40 point games than kobe did this year....and if you wanna count being the best player as only offensive, hell kevin durant and dwayne wade are better scorers than both of them

Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 226599)

LMAO @ this. This is a great idea. Shaq and Kobe could really clear the air right? :mrgreen:

Originally Posted by FatCitySaint (Post 226617)

LOL you are daft arent you!!????? So when a certain point serves you its ok....but when it doesnt.... it's 5 years ago.....done talking to the short bus.....good day. ;)

Originally Posted by CantonLegend (Post 226639)

because ive been using relevant information in this debate....its embarrassing that you cant see that

wilt scored 100 points in a game so he must be the best player in the NBA.....your statement is just outdated

kobe is a good player......but his time as best player in the league is over

the king is better in every way and ive proven that

Originally Posted by QBREES9 (Post 226896)

I'm changing my vote to the BULLS