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jeanpierre 03-18-2021 07:51 PM
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Replace Eric Stokes with Greg Newsome and I agree with you. However, I’m starting to get the feeling that we’re going to trade up for Horn. I hate the idea of trading up this year with so many holes on the roster that we didn’t fill through free agency, but I do not see us just waiting to see what falls to us at 28.
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ChrisXVI 03-18-2021 08:55 PM
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I know buddy. There’s no way we don’t though. We’re not getting a starter who happens to be a scheme fit if we stay put at 28.

Boston Saint 03-18-2021 09:31 PM
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Is it the player or the trading up that bothers you guys ?

jeanpierre 03-19-2021 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 916619)
I know buddy. There’s no way we don’t though. We’re not getting a starter who happens to be a scheme fit if we stay put at 28.
There's plenty that'd be there at 28 who could give us value; we could upgrade with younger, rookie contract players, and some players would be traded like Armstead...

The reality is we don't have significant improvement until we take a step back and move up in the draft by virtue of record, without giving up add'l draft capital...

Even the teams that have historically drafted well and are perennial contenders have at least one down year among their 6-7-8 year runs...

We've not allowed that inevitable process due to leaning in too much on free agency heavy contracts, and poor draft management of all-too-frequent moving up in the draft...

jeanpierre 03-19-2021 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 916628)
Is it the player or the trading up that bothers you guys ?
Both. That's a lot of pressure to attach to one player. Then, by trading up, you've not allowed to go back into a fertile, talented draft because you've limited your choices...

Now you have a talented player, but you're weak somewhere else, opponents will just attack the weaker position...

And even worse, what if the player heavily invested doesn't pan out, now you've only addressed one position and even it's not having an impact...

Not having talent spread across the field has cost us; having plenty of choices is what has sprung us forward - see recent history of 2017 draft where we had more choices...

ChrisXVI 03-19-2021 06:36 AM
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Watching some LB’s and man... this Jamin Davis kid looks so good. He’s the quintessential weak side LB.

ChrisXVI 03-19-2021 09:27 AM
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Free agency comp pick update for the 2022 draft... we’re currently slated to get a 4th for Trey Hendrickson and a 7th for Justin Hardee. That’s in addition to getting a 3 next year for Fontenot.

Boston Saint 03-19-2021 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 916651)
Free agency comp pick update for the 2022 draft... we’re currently slated to get a 4th for Trey Hendrickson and a 7th for Justin Hardee. That’s in addition to getting a 3 next year for Fontenot.
Seems a bit light recompense but anything helps theoretically.

ChrisXVI 03-19-2021 05:45 PM
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ChrisXVI 03-19-2021 06:22 PM
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Saints continue to go hard on DT’s. We don’t have a CB2 so I don’t know why we’re so all in on DT but whatever.


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