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lee909 04-04-2021 07:15 PM

Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints
 
Bored again at work



Trade
Saints Received
36
50
81
258

Dolphins Received
28
98
105


36
Jayson Oweh
Penn State

50
Walker Little
Stanford

60
Quinn Meinerz
Wisconsin - Whitewater

98
Jamin Davis
Kentucky


Trade
Saints Received
98
105

Dolphins Received
81


105
Tay Gowan
UCF


133
Milton Williams
Louisiana Tech


218
Patrick Jones
Pittsburgh


229
Riley Cole
South Alabama


255
Josh Imatorbhebhe
Illinois


258
Robert Jones
Middle Tennessee


Overall
New Orleans Saints
B+

lee909 04-04-2021 07:27 PM

Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints
 
Yeah im really bored



28
Caleb Farley
Virginia Tech


60
Carlos Basham Jr
Wake Forest


98
Jamin Davis
Kentucky


105
Milton Williams
Louisiana Tech


133
Tay Gowan
UCF


218
Tarron Jackson
Coastal Carolina


229
Josh Imatorbhebhe
Illinois


255
Larry Rountree III
Missouri


Overall
New Orleans Saints
B+

gosaints1 04-04-2021 07:37 PM

Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 917638)
Maybe but if you Draft Trask in the 2nd round this year and he shows he can do a job even just to the same level as Winston or Hill then you save a fortune in 2022 with his deal being not much above 1ml a year. If the front office think he is a future starter i would argue it makes plenty of sense

I get your logic and agree, but we fairly recently (2015 iirc) drafted a third round QB, didn’t work out but the FO must have though very highly of him, given the fairly high draft pick, 75 overall, used. I’m not as confident in the Saints player analytics wrt QB’s as I am wrt OLinemen, lol.

The way I’m looking at the QB pos’n right now is unless there is a slam dunk guarantee starter, in this draft, who will be better than Jameis or Taysom..., then don’t address a possible “need” or a possible “cap saver”. This team has some quite obvious, unambiguous needs. Prioritize those.

lee909 04-04-2021 07:41 PM

Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints
 
MOCK DRAFT RESULTS
pff.com/mock


DRAFT GRADE
Saints Received
31
94

Kansas Received
28


31
Rashod Bateman
Minnesota


Trade
Saints Received
42

Giants Received
60
94


42
Zaven Collins
Tulsa


98
Tay Gowan
UCF


105
Osa Odighizuwa
UCLA


133
Jamin Davis
Kentucky


218
Michal Menet
Penn State


229
Josh Imatorbhebhe
Illinois

255
Tarron Jackson
Coastal Carolina


Overall
New Orleans Saints
B

K Major 04-04-2021 08:02 PM

Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 917640)
Yeah im really bored

28
Caleb Farley
Virginia Tech

Lee I know this is only a "mock" but I hope the Saints stay away from guys with medical red flags in college. Especially that high in the draft. No biggie if we are taking a gamble on a 6th or undrafted player. But 1st or 2nd round ? No way.

Ha'oli Kikaha comes to mind.

lee909 04-04-2021 08:08 PM

Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints
 
Yeah i'd be the same in a actual draft.
Just really really bored messing around.

For me that's what comp picks are for, players slipping out of the first and second rounds due to injuries i have no issues throwing a comp pick at them, even if you have to red shirt IR them for a year. But i agree the first two rounds should be as sure a bet as you can

ChrisXVI 04-04-2021 08:23 PM

Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints
 
Zaven Collins will be the pick in the first whether I agree with it or not. A CB like UCF’s Aaron Robinson or Stanford’s Paulson Adebo will be the pick in the second.

lee909 04-04-2021 08:35 PM

Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 917647)
Zaven Collins will be the pick in the first whether I agree with it or not. A CB like UCF’s Aaron Robinson or Stanford’s Paulson Adebo will be the pick in the second.

Nah it'll be

R1 Terrace Marshall
R2 Jabril Cox
R3 JaCoby Stevens

Coaches are going to stop the moaning at no LSU Players




Reality is

R1 Wyatt Davis
R2 Pete Werner
R3 Shaun Wade
R3 Baron Browning
R4 Tommy Togiai
R6 Trey Sermon

jeanpierre 04-05-2021 10:10 AM

Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gosaints1 (Post 917642)
I get your logic and agree, but we fairly recently (2015 iirc) drafted a third round QB, didn’t work out but the FO must have though very highly of him, given the fairly high draft pick, 75 overall, used. I’m not as confident in the Saints player analytics wrt QB’s as I am wrt OLinemen, lol.

The way I’m looking at the QB pos’n right now is unless there is a slam dunk guarantee starter, in this draft, who will be better than Jameis or Taysom..., then don’t address a possible “need” or a possible “cap saver”. This team has some quite obvious, unambiguous needs. Prioritize those.

Tom Brady was the 199th pick, Round 6. Joe Montana a third round pick. Drew Brees was the 32nd pick, and Brett Favre 33rd pick, both in the second round...

Kurt Warner was an Undrafted Free Agent...

So your QB can come from any location, though I admit, most come in the first round...

jeanpierre 04-05-2021 10:49 AM

Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints
 
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Samuel may be a reach, but he'll justify the pick...

Don't get the grade on Jabril Cox, he'll be fire opposite DeMario...

Know the popular pick would be a WRz, but I want those two TE packages to move methodically downfield, eating clock...

Spencer Brown is my still, and allows the team to move on from Mr. Glass...

Robinson can move in behind Cam Jordan, learn, develop...

Bates makes the TE group young and elite...

With so much veteran money tied into RB, Jermar Jefferson gives a less expensive, more explosive RB to spell Kamara...

Tommy Doyle is listed as a tackle, but he can be a Carl Nicks type LG...


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