Report: Saints have reworked Brees's contract to free up nearly $24M
 

Per Nick Underhill ...

Re: Report: Saints have reworked Brees's contract to free up nearly $24M
 

Pretty much confirms retirement papers going in June 1st. Split the 22ml owed over the next 2 seasons.

What was it 95ml over and some talk the cap might well be 10ml more than expected if so that 95ml is 85ml

5 million carried over
24ml Brees
12ml Kwon Alexander

Well that's a good start

New deals maybe for Lattimore and Ramczyk as both playing for 5th year options around 10/11ml each. Long term year 1 friendly deals.

Re: Report: Saints have reworked Brees's contract to free up nearly $24M
 

I knew it! I brought this up in another thread about how Brees could renegotiate his contract to the minimum and then retire to help us out. What a great move on Drew’s part to help the team.

Re: Report: Saints have reworked Brees's contract to free up nearly $24M
 

Re: Report: Saints have reworked Brees's contract to free up nearly $24M
 

Re: Report: Saints have reworked Brees's contract to free up nearly $24M
 

Re: Report: Saints have reworked Brees's contract to free up nearly $24M
 

It's weird, I expected Brees to just retire and for me to just keep carrying on. I didn't expect to tear up *sniffle*.

Re: Report: Saints have reworked Brees's contract to free up nearly $24M
 

I'm going to sit here, drink my cup of coffee, smoke a Flor de Antillas, and watch Drew Brees videos. I feel as an organization we let him down. We never really got him a defense until he was aged. He should have at least 2 MVP trophies, but got screwed both times. At least we didn't completely turn him into Dan Marino. We won a Super Bowl. There are a lot of greats that are unfortunate never to have that. Still, as good as he was, we should have gotten him more. His best chances shouldn't have been in his late 30s and early 40s.

Re: Report: Saints have reworked Brees's contract to free up nearly $24M
 

I don't think we're going to make a play for Deshawn Watson or anything, but I bet we are trying to keep our options open in case we find the right trade to get involved in. This gives the Saints a little more financial space and knowledge to work with, until Drew is ready to make the formal retirement announcement, which seems fairly certain. Maybe it will come on Valentine's Day?

Re: Report: Saints have reworked Brees's contract to free up nearly $24M
 

Another stellar move in a long line of high-character decisions from one of the greatest QBs of all time.

Legendary for life, Drew. Thank you.

Re: Report: Saints have reworked Brees's contract to free up nearly $24M
 

Dan Marino? Zero Super Bowl wins, threw for a million yards. Won a lot of games, set all kinds of NFL passing records but only ONE Super Bowl that he LOST!! Had some coach named Shula. Comparing the Shula & Marino era One lost Super Bowl and only 5 playoff games vs the Payton & Brees era One Super Bowl Victory 17 playoff games. By B&G standards make Marino and Shula both BUSTS!!

Re: Report: Saints have reworked Brees's contract to free up nearly $24M
 

To be fair, I wouldn’t place Dan Marino on the top ten greatest qb’s of all time. As far as Don Shula, iirc, he was the architect of the”perfect season”, 14 regular season wins, two playoff wins and the SB championship over Washington. Whether the coach is placed on a pedestal is subjective..., me personally, the “perfect season” is an important place in history..., until somebody goes 19-0, then Coach Shula will be forgotten. Until that time...

Edit: and what’s with all the hyperbole about calling Payton or Brees “busts”. I’ve never seen that argument made in my short time here.

Re: Report: Saints have reworked Brees's contract to free up nearly $24M
 

Go back and read what I wrote not what you think I said. You conveniently missed the Comparing the Shula & Marino era One lost Super Bowl and only 5 playoff games vs the Payton & Brees era I wasn't talking about Shula's complete body of work. Yours is apples to oranges mine was apples to apples since there has only been a Payton & Brees era for head coach Payton. As for "Bust" replace it with any word you like, failure, flop, not listening to your meat guy! ect. ect.

You've been on the board to know there are some who claim to be better coaches than Payton (The Whole Foods Meat Guy!!!!) and now Brees is a noodle arm. Go back and read all about Our Early Playoff Exits ect. ect. then compare them to the Shula & Marino era One lost Super Bowl and only 5 playoff games vs the Payton & Brees era

Re: Report: Saints have reworked Brees's contract to free up nearly $24M
 

Brees has gotten old. And his arm is very much weaker than it was when he was in his prime. He can’t physically run the entire playbook anymore.

As far as Payton, he is a 9-9 playoff record (but conjoined with Brees the entire time) HC with one SB win. Better than 0-18 with zero SB wins, but not as good as 18-0 with three, four or more.

Edit: You have my aplogies if I misunderstood the context of your post.

Re: Report: Saints have reworked Brees's contract to free up nearly $24M
 

To me watching Brees in the Tampa Playoff game was as painful as this picture of Y.A. Tittle kneeling, dazed and bloody in his last playoff game. A little triva
Y.A. came back the following year but was benched mid season for Gary Wood an original Saint QB Gary Cuzzo, Bill Killer and Gary Wood. I remember hearing a story that after being inserted into a lopsided Saints game loss he asked the coach "Do you want me to play it close to the vest or try to pull this thing out?"

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All I was doing was providing a little context to the "Payton costs Brees at least .......... and Brees was washed up............... Thus the comparison of the greatest NFL coach Don Shula and how he did teamed with Dan Marino. You hear the term "Turnover Machine" well Marino was a "Stat Machine" lots of "Gee Whiz" passing stats but not much else. Lots of Sizzle but no Steak. With Payton and Brees you have to admit there was some Steak to go along with the Sizzle!! and No, I'm not the whole foods meat guy! :rofl: :rofl:

Re: Report: Saints have reworked Brees's contract to free up nearly $24M
 

I agree. Here is the thing though. I think as competitive as Brees is, I think he needed to know he just couldn't do it physically anymore. As long as he thought he might have a little left, he would keep coming back.

Regardless of how it ended, he helped turn a franchise around. Brought a Superbowl championship to the city and a lot of seasons were we at least had some hope. Hard to complain if you remember the state of the franchise before that.

Re: Report: Saints have reworked Brees's contract to free up nearly $24M
 

Katrina blew thru Nola and out of the destruction came a real modern day Saint..

Re: Report: Saints have reworked Brees's contract to free up nearly $24M
 

Katrina washed away the sins of the city and the Voodoo curse on New Orleans.

Re: Report: Saints have reworked Brees's contract to free up nearly $24M
 

Classy move by Drew.

Re: Report: Saints have reworked Brees's contract to free up nearly $24M
 

The 24ml was non guaranteed 2021 Salary wasn't it?
The rest was signing bonus that was already paid but the Saints are just putting it through the books as Post June 1st. The league wouldn't let him drop his salary to manipulate the cap. It means nothing to Drew other than his retirement papers go through on June 1st.

Sorry am i missing something here
Drew hasn't written off money has he?

Re: Report: Saints have reworked Brees's contract to free up nearly $24M
 

On your next drag reflect on the fact that at one point his contract gobbled up money to be used on a defense. I am not saying he wasn't worth the pay, I am saying he is/was part of the organization you believe failed him.

A lot of what he doesn't have isn't because of the Saints, it is because he was a Saint. :bng:

Maybe we don't point fingers as no one in that organization is free of having a hand in the outcome of out seasons. There is a cap and everyone wants to get paid.

Re: Report: Saints have reworked Brees's contract to free up nearly $24M
 

$25M was guaranteed and paid last season (2020) and that included his signing bonus. All he has to do is renegotiate for league minimum.