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SmashMouth 07-15-2021 05:56 PM

Re: Marcus Williams Tagged
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 923112)
Report: Marcus Williams, Saints unlikely to beat deadline for long-term deal

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ong-term-deal/

Per Underhill : "Deadline to sign Marcus Williams has passed without a deal, per source. Saints made a strong offer but they’ll have to wait to try again".

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 923113)
Can't blame Marcus and agent waiting for a more favorable cap year - he's the most underrated player on this Saints defense...

https://twitter.com/nick_underhill/s...65023645855744

It’s probably better to tag him twice rather than pay an inflated price, especially since he whiffed on a game saving tackle that would have earned us a SuperBowl berth.

K Major 07-15-2021 06:09 PM

Re: Marcus Williams Tagged
 
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 923134)
It’s probably better to tag him twice rather than pay an inflated price, especially since he wiffed on a game saving tackle that would have earned us a SuperBowl berth.

Hard to assume that one Smash. You still had to get through a red hot Philly team the following week. No guarantees we would have won.

The Dude 07-15-2021 07:51 PM

Re: Marcus Williams Tagged
 
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 923134)
It’s probably better to tag him twice rather than pay an inflated price, especially since he wiffed on a game saving tackle that would have earned us a SuperBowl berth.

Nobody in the league was beating Philly that year. Nobody. They just had the “it” factor. Just like we did in 06.

AsylumGuido 07-15-2021 07:53 PM

Re: Marcus Williams Tagged
 
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 923134)
It’s probably better to tag him twice rather than pay an inflated price, especially since he wiffed on a game saving tackle that would have earned us a SuperBowl berth.

He only whiffed because he was told not to create a foul. That's not on him.

jeanpierre 07-15-2021 07:57 PM

Re: Marcus Williams Tagged
 
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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 923163)
Nobody in the league was beating Philly that year. Nobody. They just had the “it” factor. Just like we did in 06.

Respectfully, we'd tore Philly a new arsehole - Sean going out-of-character conservative vs MIN HC, his kryptonite, did us in...

SmashMouth 07-15-2021 09:28 PM

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jeanpierre 07-15-2021 11:13 PM

Re: Marcus Williams Tagged
 
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 923134)
It’s probably better to tag him twice rather than pay an inflated price, especially since he whiffed on a game saving tackle that would have earned us a SuperBowl berth.

Usually when the Saints Front Office has extended a player, it's been cheaper than franchise tagging them over and over...

Thought they'd learned their lesson with Drew on that one...

jeanpierre 07-15-2021 11:22 PM

Re: Marcus Williams Tagged
 
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 923178)

Mike Triplett is tripping - Using ProBowls to equate NFL success is a non-sequitur...

Case in point - In 2019, Ryan Ramczyk had one of the most dominant performances by an offensive line in NFL history...

Ramz allowed only one (1) sack all season, all the while facing no less than probably nine (9) future HOF DEs with only two (2) Holding and two (2) Offside Calls...

Source: https://www.canalstreetchronicles.co...offensive-line

Ryan Ramczyk wasn't named to the ProBowl that year, though he was All-Pro, so ProBowls are not a valid indicator of NFL success...

If this were the NY, Philly, ATL, Chicago, Dallas, or L.A. Saints, Marcus Williams would have been All-Pro his rookie year, let alone have been named to the Pro-Bowl...

As I stated earlier in the thread, it's a gamble, but the right move for him is to wait till next season when the cap number should escalate as much as 20%...

Williams with another great season and that cap number higher should give him all the leverage...

SmashMouth 07-16-2021 08:47 AM

Re: Marcus Williams Tagged
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 923165)
Respectfully, we'd tore Philly a new arsehole - Sean going out-of-character conservative vs MIN HC, his kryptonite, did us in...

That plus SP's bad knowledge of the rule book, unlike BB.

ChrisXVI 07-16-2021 08:58 AM

Re: Marcus Williams Tagged
 
Well we’re currently about $27 million over the 2022 salary cap ceiling of $208 million with only 40 players under contract. Yes we’ve seen the gymnastics Loomis and Harley can do to get under the cap this offseason, but next year may be even more daunting because we don’t even have a QB under contract. I think Marcus Williams is as good as gone.


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