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AsylumGuido 03-16-2021 12:27 PM

Re: Taysom Hill creates $7.75 million in cap space with special accounting restructuring
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gosaints1 (Post 916385)
I never said it was a player’s problem, I’ve always said it was an organizational problem. Pretty sure the Eagles are paying Wentz $34M to play somewhere else. Our players are no different. We’ll soon, post 6/1, be above that amount wrt “dead money”.

It’s simple:

1) Dead Money Players are no longer with the organization.

2) The organization is still paying them.

Say it’s for past work, say it’s for future work, say it’s for helping little old ladies across the street, say it’s for going to church, say it’s for defending daylight savings time, say it’s for enjoying wine instead of beer..., I don’t care what each of us say it’s for, bc the dogmatic truth is:

1 & 2 above are facts, unassailable.

While #1 is absolutely true, #2 is absolutely false. The organization paid those players already. Not one penny is now going to them. None. The "dead money" is nothing more than accounting for the earned and previously paid expenditures from prior periods.

THAT is the unassailable fact that you seem to be unable to comprehend.

Every dollar of the Saints 2021 Dead Cap is the result of bonuses paid in prior periods.

PlayerPOSBase SalarySigning BonusRoster BonusOption BonusWorkoutRestructureMisc.Dead CapCap HitCap %
Janoris JenkinsCB-$6,000,000$1,200,000-----$7,200,0003.88
Sheldon RankinsDT-$4,000,000------$4,000,0002.16
Emmanuel SandersWR-$4,000,000------$4,000,0002.16
Jared CookTE-$2,000,000------$2,000,0001.08
Thomas MorsteadP-$2,000,000------$2,000,0001.08
Malcom BrownDT-$1,500,000------$1,500,0000.81
Nick EastonG-$1,000,000------$1,000,0000.54
Josh HillTE-$750,000------$750,0000.40
Saquan HamptonS-$97,604------$97,6040.05
Tommy StevensTE-$60,447------$60,4470.03
Will ClappC-$18,285------$18,2850.01
Joe BachieLB-$10,000------$10,0000.01
Jordan StecklerG-$10,000------$10,0000.01
Calvin ThrockmortonT-$8,334------$8,3340.00
Juwan JohnsonWR-$6,667------$6,6670.00
Tony JonesRB-$6,667------$6,6670.00
Keith WashingtonCB-$6,667------$6,6670.00
Tino EllisCB-$5,000------$5,0000.00
Darrin PauloT-$3,334------$3,3340.00
Chase HansenLB-$1,668------$1,6680.00
Gus CumberlanderDE-$1,000------$1,0000.00
Dead Money: -$21,485,673$1,200,000-----$22,685,67312.23

AsylumGuido 03-16-2021 12:42 PM

Re: Taysom Hill creates $7.75 million in cap space with special accounting restructuring
 
Every franchise in the NFL has dead cap in 2021. The league average is $10,773,063. Those numbers will grow by 4:00 PM Wednesday. It is simply part of the game.

jeanpierre 03-16-2021 10:41 PM

Re: Taysom Hill creates $7.75 million in cap space with special accounting restructuring
 

jeanpierre 03-16-2021 10:42 PM

Re: Taysom Hill creates $7.75 million in cap space with special accounting restructuring
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 916401)
Every franchise in the NFL has dead cap in 2021. The league average is $10,773,063. Those numbers will grow by 4:00 PM Wednesday. It is simply part of the game.

Get DeadCap is part of it; so if $10.8M is the mean, what percentile to the Saints fall into re: efficiency of dead cap?

TheOak 03-17-2021 03:14 AM

Re: Taysom Hill creates $7.75 million in cap space with special accounting restructuring
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gosaints1 (Post 916385)
I never said it was a player’s problem, I’ve always said it was an organizational problem. Pretty sure the Eagles are paying Wentz $34M to play somewhere else. Our players are no different. We’ll soon, post 6/1, be above that amount wrt “dead money”.

It’s simple:

1) Dead Money Players are no longer with the organization.

2) The organization is still paying them.

Say it’s for past work, say it’s for future work, say it’s for helping little old ladies across the street, say it’s for going to church, say it’s for defending daylight savings time, say it’s for enjoying wine instead of beer..., I don’t care what each of us say it’s for, bc the dogmatic truth is:

1 & 2 above are facts, unassailable.

Ahhh beautiful when you say “it’s simple”, use the word “facts” then get it wrong thanks for the millennial trifecta.

#2 is wrong, I explained why it is wrong but instead of trying to understand prorated recognition you double down on wrong... have it your way.

TheOak 03-17-2021 03:24 AM

Re: Taysom Hill creates $7.75 million in cap space with special accounting restructuring
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 916481)
Get DeadCap is part of it; so if $10.8M is the mean, what percentile to the Saints fall into re: efficiency of dead cap?

Saying “efficiency of dead cap” to me is like saying a brand of cigarettes is healthier than others, there is no positive on dead cap and it’s an inefficiency of cap space. I’d phrase it as a direct calculation, dead cap/total available cap is inefficiency of cap space.

100% efficiency of cap space is no dead money
$10M dead cap on $100M cap is 10% inefficiency.

Dead cap is a problem for Loomis with the league because it hinders talent acquisition and contract negotiation. Dead cap is a problem for Loomis with Gayle Benson because it’s sunk cost/burnt capital which should be a matrix in his contract.

saintsfan1976 03-17-2021 04:16 AM

Re: Taysom Hill creates $7.75 million in cap space with special accounting restructuring
 
Taysom is not the future QB. However, he's the best at what he does and add undeniable value to the entire team.


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