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AsylumGuido 03-15-2021 05:19 PM

Re: Sean Payton wants to see Jameis Winston “competing to be that guy”
 
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 916236)
I'm pulling for the young guy but I've got my reservations. Smash said earlier that Winston has had eye surgery and a year with Drew and Sean working on his weaknesses and I hope it pays off. But in the back of my mind he's still the same guy we laughed at before for his decision making. I hope he proves me wrong.

Regardless of improvement, there's no way he isn't a huge step down from one who was among the best to ever play the game. We've been spoiled.

The Dude 03-15-2021 05:24 PM

Re: Sean Payton wants to see Jameis Winston “competing to be that guy”
 
Winston is the youngest player out there that has the potential to become our franchise Qb. He won’t be a Drew Brees, we won’t see a player like him in our lifetime but Winston can win us a Super Bowl if he can cut out the interceptions. He’s our best bet.

AsylumGuido 03-15-2021 05:30 PM

Re: Sean Payton wants to see Jameis Winston “competing to be that guy”
 
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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 916243)
Winston is the youngest player out there that has the potential to become our franchise Qb. He won’t be a Drew Brees, we won’t see a player like him in our lifetime but Winston can win us a Super Bowl if he can cut out the interceptions. He’s our best bet.

If we had our entire roster back I might entertain the idea briefly, but we are going to be a shell of what we were on both sides of the ball. He has the potential to be our QB, but given the "franchise" interpretation I use we have only had two of those in our history ... and, no, Bobby wasn't one of them.

The Dude 03-15-2021 08:26 PM

Re: Sean Payton wants to see Jameis Winston “competing to be that guy”
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 916208)
If anyone else out there has any confidence that Winston could be a starter for them then the Saints will be unable to match any reasonable deal.

Wrong again. This must be killing you.

AsylumGuido 03-15-2021 08:32 PM

Re: Sean Payton wants to see Jameis Winston “competing to be that guy”
 
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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 916271)
Wrong again. This must be killing you.

Nope. Not wrong. I said if anyone else thought he was worthy we couldn't sign him. Obviously nobody else wanted him. We signed him for WAY below market value for a lowest end starter. Still only three wrongs ever, Dude. Eons away from matching your growing total. He's dirt cheap and still needs to earn a start and I'll still not be wrong if he does. I hope he does pan out.

Rell&Gold 03-16-2021 02:16 AM

Re: Sean Payton wants to see Jameis Winston “competing to be that guy”
 
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 916211)
I'd like to see the Saints actually develop a QB from the draft.

Payton is a great coach but he really lucked out with Brees, I'd be interested to see what he could do with a rookie at the helm.

He lucked out by getting the QB he was pursuing?

TheOak 03-16-2021 04:03 AM

Re: Sean Payton wants to see Jameis Winston “competing to be that guy”
 
Everyone should want Winston to be “competing to be that guy”, I want every available QB “competing to be that guy”. That’s how to put the best talent available on the field.

TheOak 03-16-2021 04:06 AM

Re: Sean Payton wants to see Jameis Winston “competing to be that guy”
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 916208)
If anyone else out there has any confidence that Winston could be a starter for them then the Saints will be unable to match any reasonable deal.

Hardly a distinction for Wilson, the same thing can be said for each and every player we have resigned or will sign this season outside of draft picks.

K Major 03-16-2021 08:15 AM

Re: Sean Payton wants to see Jameis Winston “competing to be that guy”
 
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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 916243)
Winston is the youngest player out there that has the potential to become our franchise Qb. He won’t be a Drew Brees, we won’t see a player like him in our lifetime but Winston can win us a Super Bowl if he can cut out the interceptions. He’s our best bet.

Right and that's the thing. It won't matter who is under center in NO. Most will have unrealistic expectations that the next QB must perform like Brees. Passing the torch from one HOF (Montana/Young) to another is rare.

I'm excited to see what JW can do in this system with Payton. The tools are there with weapons around.

Rugby Saint II 03-16-2021 01:07 PM

Re: Sean Payton wants to see Jameis Winston “competing to be that guy”
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 916353)
Right and that's the thing. It won't matter who is under center in NO. Most will have unrealistic expectations that the next QB must perform like Brees. Passing the torch from one HOF (Montana/Young) to another is rare.

I'm excited to see what JW can do in this system with Payton. The tools are there with weapons around.

That's it! We have to temper our expectations and then see how the team does in the next couple of years. Drew has spoiled us without a doubt.


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