Apologies to Saints Report
 

My apologies to Saints Report Forum. A couple years ago I was banned for among other things saying Alex Analzone was too injury prone and would never develop, we traded too much for Davenport and should stop trading away future picks, and that Matt Ryan is no good and not an amazing worthy rival who just has bad luck in the playoffs. I argued that time would catch up to Drew Brees and it would be hard to bounce back from the Minneapolis Miracle and No Call and that we should rebuild and consider trading Lattimore, Thomas, and Kamara for a stockpile of draft picks to get the next QB eventually rather than paying them big contracts. I said we should stop trading away future draft picks in ways that don't make sense such as making a win-now move in trading up for Davenport but then picking a guy like Davenport who was a raw prospect and would take years to see full result (win now but don't?), and we should begin cleaning up our salary cap and play the long game with stockpiled picks, taking advantage of compensatory picks, and selling high on impending free agents like the Patriots have.

I was so wrong. Analzone and Davenport have been amazing. Matt Ryan has since proved all the doubters wrong, all he needed was three 1st round pick WRs to continue bouncing between losing seasons and early playoff exits while maintaining good stats when it doesnt count, he was never part of the problem in Atlanta. We are so lucky to have Lattimore and his stolen gun, and Michael Thomas with his internal disagreements and injury issues at a top salary. Kamara has been solid, and if history tells us anything from the 1990's Lions, its that championships are built on evasive sideline to sideline running backs who seem about 10-20% more productive than their dirt cheap veteran backup. We had to push $85 million in salary cap to future years. My only regret is that we didn't secure a blockbuster long term deal with Lattimore as many suggested. Drew Brees obviously had a lot left in the tank, and although he has decided to retire early for purely personal reasons, there aren't a lot of good QBs available in this draft anyway and no good free agents available at a discount so it wouldn't have been good timing to have a stockpile of draft picks or a cleaner salary cap.

The important thing for a franchise to win is that all their fans have the same opinions and that anyone with different opinions is shunned as a non-fan. So I am sorry Saints Report. You were right. By avoiding any kind of rebuilding and not trading any of our young stars before they hit free agency, we are truly locked and loaded for the future.

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What the hell is this?

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Nonsense apparently.

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Fodder to keep our thoughts off Latt? Lol. I have no idea.

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Drinking and posting is wrong.

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Drugs are bad, mmmmkkkkk?

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I got banned on Saints Report, which is the most trafficked Saints forum, several years ago. They said that suggesting a rebuild that could involve trading players like Lattimore and Thomas was trolling. In hindsight, the rebuild I suggested looks smart. Lattimore committing a possible felony is the last straw, as they basically banned me for suggesting we trade players like Lattimore to stockpile draft picks for a QB of the future. So this post is an 'I told you so' to Andrus and Dan in Laffayette and whoever else in their little cult. I can't post it on there so I am posting it here. They also love Matt Ryan over there and will not allow placing any of the blame for Atlanta's failures on him.

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It just looks bad that you care enough to post this, on a separate forum, 2 years later... but if it makes you feel better hopefully you've released that burden and can move on.

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I don't think of it as being about my feelings and how much I care. I think of it as that the fans are an important part of an NFL franchises success and all teams at some level cannot help but respond to pressure from fans at some degree. I think its harmful to the success of the Saints franchise that their most trafficked fan forum in Saints Report runs a China-style censorship operation which controls, hampers, and misrepresents the variety of fans views and sends a false message to the Saints that 101% fan consensus is to resign and extend everyone and always win now and always trade up and mortgage the future. Thats the view of the admins of that forum, but they use their position to mostly block other views from being expressed, and their position is strong and influential as many of the fans calling in to radio shows and discussing the Saints around the watercooler are influenced by that site. I hope one day their site traffic is zero and sites like this are on top instead because I think that will benefit the team and fans.

I am not hung up on it and I am gonna go hiking today and see some wildflowers maybe, but everyones got to vent sometimes. Venting done.

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The franchise couldn't care less about what any fan thinks about how they handle their business. Nor should they. The people making the decisions are not likely to even be with the franchise in a few short years. It is their job to do what they feel is best to win as soon as possible. You and I might be associated with the team for life, but for the front office and coaching staffs, they are nothing more than transient workers for which short term success weighs FAR more heavily than future success. And it is becoming more so every passing year.

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I really actually wouldn't know. This is the only forum I've ever really been on. And I've been here a long time. Lol

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Saints report is full of holier than thou people who criticize everyone for everything. Lot's of haters over there. When the bng server was down it felt like SR was my only option for Saints info. When I got back I posted a thread about how much more civil we are here. I have friends here! Just my two cents.

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I like this forum way more than Saints Report. There’s a lot of sniping on Saints Report. It seems to me that fans on this forum are better able to disagree with an opinion without resorting to being disrespectful.

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Bako..go ahead and vent, it’s your right and I appreciate you doing so. Not sure what happened between you and your posts and saints report. I have no reason to like or dislike that site. Sorry for tabbing you for drunk posting. Lord knows I’ve done that enough in my short time here.

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No way ! I disagree 🤪 !!!

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I got a lifetime ban from Saints Report for posting that I hated the 40-whiners like a Jew hates Hitler!

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I've checked it out. From what I had seen, it's comprised of a bunch of squabbling, snobby brats. We've got one guy that posts like they do here and that's enough.

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Yeah. I hate those types.

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Yes, but you did it in a respectful manner!😜

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Dumb post. So you are writing an I told you so thread because we wound up in a bind? You would have rather rebuilt than watch the Saints contend for a Super Bowl the last 3 years? No, we didn’t get another Lombardi but we did get to watch a hell of a lot of great football. We all knew it would eventually come to an end. If we would have traded all the players you listed we would’ve been watching another string of 7-9 seasons.
Some of you guys think it’s easy to just rebuild and be right back in the thick of things, it’s not. Obviously a lot of people are too young to remember the pre Brees/Payton era.
As for Saintsreport, it’s full of children who have very little football knowledge. Last year there was a 200 post thread full of people who were absolutely convinced we were going to trade to get Joe Burrow.
I got banned because I said “Reggie Bush isn’t an every down back.” That was it, no smart ass comment, nothing.

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I couldn't agree more with this. There are so many factors involved in having success as an NFL team. Planning for tomorrow at the expense of today carries no guarantees. Every player is an injury away from having their career ended. Every coach is a number of losses away from losing their job. Everyone in the front office is on borrowed time. The time you have the most control over success is in present. Winning now and worrying about the future later is the mantra of the persons in charge, because if you don't do everything possible to win now there very well may not be a future.

Ownership and the fans are the only given constants. But one thing the ownership knows better than the fans is to trust whom they hire to handle their team. Does it always work out? Of course not. But more times than not it gives them their best shot of winning it all.

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I feel dirty every time I go to that site.