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Boston Saint 04-26-2021 12:08 PM

The “Patriot” Way
 
They are making a big deal up here out of the idea that even though the players put out a statement saying they weren’t going to participate in the voluntaries, Newton, Sanu, and a handful of other players are showing up to put work in and get to know each other. Gotta say, I’d feel better if Winston/Hill were working out with Callaway, Humphries, et all.

st thomas 04-26-2021 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 918880)
They are making a big deal up here out of the idea that even though the players put out a statement saying they weren’t going to participate in the voluntaries, Newton, Sanu, and a handful of other players are showing up to put work in and get to know each other. Gotta say, I’d feel better if Winston/Hill were working out with Callaway, Humphries, et all.


It’s gonna be a slow start for a lot of teams/players. Sloppy play drops and injuries to be in the mix. The teams that start fast may not be the ones at the end making a big push. It is what it is, I’m still wondering if it’s virus related or that extra game they didn’t want. But that’s why I’m home sitting on my asre and not in a front office.


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ChrisXVI 04-26-2021 02:05 PM

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They are... I’ve seen plenty of footage of Jameis this offseason working with our WR’s and TE’s.

AsylumGuido 04-26-2021 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 918885)
It’s gonna be a slow start for a lot of teams/players. Sloppy play drops and injuries to be in the mix. The teams that start fast may not be the ones at the end making a big push. It is what it is, I’m still wondering if it’s virus related or that extra game they didn’t want. But that’s why I’m home sitting on my asre and not in a front office.


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The vast majority of players (the rank and file) wanted the extra game because it gave them an extra paycheck. That's why the NFLPA agreed to the expanded schedule. It was favored by most of the players. It was only the highest paid minority that were against an extra game (ie. Kamara). The sitting out of voluntary activities is 100% related to COVID protocols. That said, many players have workout bonuses tied to showing up for certain voluntary activities. Those same rank and file players may make those workouts, while the highly paid few most likely won't.

AsylumGuido 04-26-2021 02:19 PM

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They are... I’ve seen plenty of footage of Jameis this offseason working with our WR’s and TE’s.

That's right. Apparently it is the team facilities that the players are wanting to avoid. They don't want to deal with all of the strict protocols (daily testing, proximity monitors, etc) until they have to for mandatory activities. They will still be working out on their own in most cases.

Boston Saint 04-26-2021 02:46 PM

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They are... I’ve seen plenty of footage of Jameis this offseason working with our WR’s and TE’s.

Still would be nice if they were doing it with Coaches and staff about.

st thomas 04-26-2021 04:46 PM

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Pitch and catch is nice. No better than a school yard recess play. Say what y’all want but put a half padded defensive back in the face of that receiver and a QB stepping up to pressure from a Cam Jordan throwing it into coverage, now that’s my way of getting it down pat.


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AsylumGuido 04-26-2021 05:40 PM

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Pitch and catch is nice. No better than a school yard recess play. Say what y’all want but put a half padded defensive back in the face of that receiver and a QB stepping up to pressure from a Cam Jordan throwing it into coverage, now that’s my way of getting it down pat.


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OTA's were once known as "passing camps" because the purpose was to get QB's and receivers in sync. You can still have pressures on both ends but there's not contact in those voluntary activities anyway. What you are talking about comes in the mandatory practices where the players are planning on being present when the first hints of contact occur.

Rugby Saint II 04-27-2021 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 918886)
They are... I’ve seen plenty of footage of Jameis this offseason working with our WR’s and TE’s.

Chemistry! It's called working on chemistry with team mates. I've watched Drew do this every year with his receivers on their off time to get on the same page. It's effective with or without coaches.

ChrisXVI 04-27-2021 05:40 PM

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Boston Saint 04-27-2021 05:52 PM

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I imagine Winston took a lot of snaps with the second string WRs last year. Hopefully he worked out good timing with Humphries, Callaway, or another WR that will translate into a breakout year for one of them.

gosaints1 04-27-2021 08:31 PM

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I think ppl are sleeping on our WR’s. Tre’Quan came on strong at the end of the year. CGM, Smith, Harris, along with Callaway..., yeah, I’ll take those guys every day of the week. I’m very high on Marquez Callaway, wouldn’t surprise me to see him at WR#2 by mid season.

The Dude 04-27-2021 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 918931)
Chemistry! It's called working on chemistry with team mates. I've watched Drew do this every year with his receivers on their off time to get on the same page. It's effective with or without coaches.

Bu, Bu, Bu, Bu, BINGO.
It’s about developing cohesiveness. Not just the physical aspect of the game.

The Dude 04-27-2021 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by gosaints1 (Post 918938)
I think ppl are sleeping on our WR’s. Tre’Quan came on strong at the end of the year. CGM, Smith, Harris, along with Callaway..., yeah, I’ll take those guys every day of the week. I’m very high on Marquez Callaway, wouldn’t surprise me to see him at WR#2 by mid season.

I’m not concerned about their physical ability and talent, I’m concerned about their ability to stay healthy. None of them have shown they can.


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