Saints projected to receive three comp picks in 2022 NFL draft

AsylumGuido · 05-11-2021, 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Whew, alright, let's do it this way...

So would y'all agree these are the most successful picks in the respective draft classes of the Sean Payton/Mickey Loomis tenure?

2006 Draft
RB Reggie Bush, R1

SS Roman Harper, R2 (Via Trade Back, Gained C Jeff Faine)

RG Jahri Evans, R4 (Via Trade Back, Gained NT Hollis Thomas)

DE Rob Ninkovich, R5

RT Zach Strief, R7

WR Marques Colston, R7 (*Compensatory)

2007 Draft Class
LT Jermon Bushrod, R4 (Via Trade of WR Donte Stallworth; If PHI re-signed DS, it'd been a R2 pick)

2008 Draft Class
DT Sedrick Ellis, R1 (Via Trade)

CB Tracy Porter, R2

LG Carl Nicks, R5 (Via Trade)

2009 Draft Class
CB Malcolm Jenkins, R1

P Thomas Morstead, R5 (Via Trade)

2010 Draft Class
CB Patrick Robinson, R1

TE Jimmy Graham, R3

2011 Draft Class
DE Cameron Jordan, R1

RB Mark Ingram Jr, R1 (Via Trade)

2012 Draft Class
DT Akiem Hicks, R3

2013 Draft Class
SS Kenny Vaccaro, R1

LT Terron Armstead, R3

WR Kenny Stills, R5

2014 Draft Class
WR Brandin Cooks, R1 (Via Trade)

2015 Draft Class
LT Andrus Peat, R1

CB P. J. Williams, R3 (Via Trade of Kenny Stills, Also Gained LB Dannell Ellerbe)

NT Tyeler Davison, R5 (Via Trade of Ben Grubbs)

2016 Draft Class
DT Sheldon Rankins, R1

WR Michael Thomas, R2

SS Vonn Bell, R2 (Via Trade)

DT David Onyemata, R4 (Via Trade with WAS)

2017 Draft Class
CB Marshon Lattimore, R1

LT Ryan Ramcyzk, R1 (Via Trade of Jimmy Graham)

FS Marcus Williams, R2

RB Alvin Kamara, R3 (Via Trade)

LB Alex Anzalone, R3

DE Trey Hendrickson, R3 (*Compensatory)

DE Al-Quadin Muhammad, R6

2018 Draft Class
DE Marcus Davenport, R1 (Via Trade)

WR Tre'Quan Smith, R3

RB Boston Scott, R6

OL Will Clapp, R7

2019 Draft Class
C Erik McCoy, R2 (Via Trade)

SS C. J. Gardner, R4 (Via Trade)

LB Kaden Elliss, R7

2020 Draft Class
C Cesar Ruiz, R1

LB Zack Baun, R3 (Via Trade)

TE Adam Trautman, R3 (Via Trade)

QB Tommy Stevens, R7 (Via Trade)

Do you feel some have been left off that should be on the list as they were successful picks?

We'll come to UDFAs later, we're debating draft picks and there value for now, agreed?

That's 30 successful picks in the first three rounds. Then there's 15 listed from the final four rounds of which possibly eight can be called mildly successful or better. Those numbers are right around the league average. The success rate of picks after round three are historically much lower than those from the earlier rounds.

Throwing more later round picks at the wall might provide another success or two, but it would also result in many times more misses. Using those picks, instead, to move up into the first three rounds would give the team a much higher chance of individual success. You can still find the "diamonds in the rough", like Granderson, via UDFA.

A perfect example of volume of picks versus quality of picks can be seen with the Vikings. Since 2010 the Vikings have had more than the normally allotted seven draft picks every single year by trading down and accumulating more picks.

2010 8
2011 10
2012 10
2013 9
2014 10
2015 10
2016 8
2017 11
2018 8
2019 12
2020 15
2021 11

That's 122 picks over twelve years. They have only managed 13 Pro Bowl players over that period. What they did end up with is a lengthy list of players that are currently out of the league. Only 42 of those 122 have started at least one game. They have managed only four years with over eight wins, four playoff visits and only two playoff wins (yes, we know those two wins well).

05-11-2021, 08:35 AM	#16
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,768	Re: Saints projected to receive three comp picks in 2022 NFL draft Originally Posted by jeanpierre Whew, alright, let's do it this way... So would y'all agree these are the most successful picks in the respective draft classes of the Sean Payton/Mickey Loomis tenure? 2006 Draft RB Reggie Bush, R1 SS Roman Harper, R2 (Via Trade Back, Gained C Jeff Faine) RG Jahri Evans, R4 (Via Trade Back, Gained NT Hollis Thomas) DE Rob Ninkovich, R5 RT Zach Strief, R7 *WR Marques Colston, R7 (Compensatory) 2007 Draft Class LT Jermon Bushrod, R4 (Via Trade of WR Donte Stallworth; If PHI re-signed DS, it'd been a R2 pick) 2008 Draft Class DT Sedrick Ellis, R1 (Via Trade) CB Tracy Porter, R2 LG Carl Nicks, R5 (Via Trade) 2009 Draft Class CB Malcolm Jenkins, R1 P Thomas Morstead, R5 (Via Trade) 2010 Draft Class CB Patrick Robinson, R1 TE Jimmy Graham, R3 2011 Draft Class DE Cameron Jordan, R1 RB Mark Ingram Jr, R1 (Via Trade) 2012 Draft Class DT Akiem Hicks, R3 2013 Draft Class SS Kenny Vaccaro, R1 LT Terron Armstead, R3 WR Kenny Stills, R5 2014 Draft Class WR Brandin Cooks, R1 (Via Trade) 2015 Draft Class LT Andrus Peat, R1 CB P. J. Williams, R3 (Via Trade of Kenny Stills, Also Gained LB Dannell Ellerbe) NT Tyeler Davison, R5 (Via Trade of Ben Grubbs) 2016 Draft Class DT Sheldon Rankins, R1 WR Michael Thomas, R2 SS Vonn Bell, R2 (Via Trade) DT David Onyemata, R4 (Via Trade with WAS) 2017 Draft Class CB Marshon Lattimore, R1 LT Ryan Ramcyzk, R1 (Via Trade of Jimmy Graham) FS Marcus Williams, R2 RB Alvin Kamara, R3 (Via Trade) LB Alex Anzalone, R3 DE Trey Hendrickson, R3 (Compensatory)* DE Al-Quadin Muhammad, R6 2018 Draft Class DE Marcus Davenport, R1 (Via Trade) WR Tre'Quan Smith, R3 RB Boston Scott, R6 OL Will Clapp, R7 2019 Draft Class C Erik McCoy, R2 (Via Trade) SS C. J. Gardner, R4 (Via Trade) LB Kaden Elliss, R7 2020 Draft Class C Cesar Ruiz, R1 LB Zack Baun, R3 (Via Trade) TE Adam Trautman, R3 (Via Trade) QB Tommy Stevens, R7 (Via Trade) Do you feel some have been left off that should be on the list as they were successful picks? We'll come to UDFAs later, we're debating draft picks and there value for now, agreed? That's 30 successful picks in the first three rounds. Then there's 15 listed from the final four rounds of which possibly eight can be called mildly successful or better. Those numbers are right around the league average. The success rate of picks after round three are historically much lower than those from the earlier rounds. Throwing more later round picks at the wall might provide another success or two, but it would also result in many times more misses. Using those picks, instead, to move up into the first three rounds would give the team a much higher chance of individual success. You can still find the "diamonds in the rough", like Granderson, via UDFA. A perfect example of volume of picks versus quality of picks can be seen with the Vikings. Since 2010 the Vikings have had more than the normally allotted seven draft picks every single year by trading down and accumulating more picks. 2010 8 2011 10 2012 10 2013 9 2014 10 2015 10 2016 8 2017 11 2018 8 2019 12 2020 15 2021 11 That's 122 picks over twelve years. They have only managed 13 Pro Bowl players over that period. What they did end up with is a lengthy list of players that are currently out of the league. Only 42 of those 122 have started at least one game. They have managed only four years with over eight wins, four playoff visits and only two playoff wins (yes, we know those two wins well). Rugby Saint II likes this.
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