Does the Saints locker room want Jameis Winston or Taysom Hill?
 

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I was just thinking we didn’t have enough Winston vs Hill discussions and opinions.

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That was an interesting take from Underhill on Erik/Ruiz … starting around 11:05.

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I would love to hear Payton announce Siemian as the starter before the season starts.:chug:

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Or Ian Book lol

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**** man. I heard the Billy Jo's are coming out of retirement.

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I do not normally watch these. I watched this one in its entirety to prove a point.

If you want to watch a 16 minute video that doesn't get to the title question for the first 6:35 then never answers or attempts to answer the question, this is the video for you. Zero locker room opinions are shared, these two do not even speculate on player thoughts.

This is click bait to get you to sign up for a website. I do not like where sports media has gone in the last decade.

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Media in general , really.

Most of those in the media would need to learn how to code. They might be more useful.

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Definitely following the wonderful standards that makes our National media so great. Who needs to waste valuable time reading articles when the headline tells you all you need to know? That extra time could be spent doing constructive things like finding memes to put on Facebook.

Wonder what Walter Cronkite, Dan Rather, and Peter Jennings would think.
They really need to require media outlets to register as opinion, entertainment, and fact. The lines are too blurry as it stands and no one has to be accountable for the material they write or say.
We all know sports media is entertainment but at this point it’s mainly just speculation.
Sorry rant over.

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Just for the sake of speculation, I’d bet good money most of the starters want Winston.

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The print writers also need to reinstall spell check. :dunce:

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You wouldn't be getting any of mine.

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I agree. He’s taken major steps to bond and create chemistry. Not saying that Taysom hasn’t but I imagine there was a conversation that went kind of like this:

Taysom-“Hey fellas you wanna come on over so we can go over some stuff?”

Everyone else-“ Nah man we good, we will be over here. Thanks though!”

To be nice they may ask him if he wants to come out and block or something.

The part in the video that pointed out a decision needs to be made sooner rather than later so they can have time to install an offense was a fair point. I’m excited and will be behind whoever as long as they are doing their part to help us win games. I really don’t see how fans can play favorites. The best man for the job will get it and that’s what we should all hope for. Part of what makes Winston the best man for the job is having Hill available to fill his role in the offense. As others have said.

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100%

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Taysom will get an even chance to start but I believe that Winston will win the training camp battle. Most people seem to agree but we'll see at TC who looks better. I'm pulling for the better man to win and not one player I like better for the job.

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I’m seeing it that way also let’s roll


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If Kamara as a rookie could beat out Ingram and Peterson for serious playing time, I can't rule out Book beating out Hill and Winston. Yes Book has a ton to learn in a short time, but if he delights in training camp and feels like the best option, Payton won't look past Book for the principle of "playing it safe".

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I agree. The fact that Hill has real value outside of the role of QB is a major factor. That is the driving force behind Hill needing to be far and away a better option at QB for him to get the starting role. Personally I have seen nothing from Hill that demonstrates that he has a greater ability to play QB than Winston. Nothing.

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When Brees got injured last season it was Hill that became the regular starter based upon the fact that he knew the full playbook far better than Winston. The same applies to Book now to even a greater degree. BOTH Winston and Hill know the full playbook far better than Book and both have far more experience as professionals. I cannot see any scenario short of both Hill and Winston suffering significant injuries that would result in Book starting a game this season. and even under that scenario I can see the Saints bringing in someone like Siemian instead.

That said, I would love to see Book emerge as the eventual starter in the future based upon his proving he is the best option. Next off-season could be interesting when it comes to the QB competition. Or Winston could conceivably solidify himself as the long term starter with a successful season.

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So, you're saying it's a FACT that Winston didn't know the playbook by WEEK 11 well enough is why Taysom started over him. If the guy didn't know it well enough to start by WEEK 11, 12, 13, and 14 ----- Will he ever?
Also I cannot think of a quarterback in HIS FIRST FOUR STARTS - EVER - that completed 72.7 percent of his passes. That includes Winston who had a dismal 58.32% percent in his first year. (i couldn't break down the first 4 games.) In 2019 WITH ALL HIS experience HE COULD ONLY MANAGE 63.64% see below for his career stats:
2020 New Orleans Saints 4 11 7 63.64 75 6.8 19 0 0 5 45.45 0 2 11 83.5
2019 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16 626 380 60.7 5109 8.2 71 33 30 243 38.82 75 47 282 84.3
2018 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 11 378 244 64.55 2992 7.9 64 19 14 152 40.21 34 27 157 90.2
2017 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 13 442 282 63.8 3504 7.9 70 19 11 180 40.72 32 33 207 92.2
2016 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16 567 345 60.85 4090 7.2 45 28 18 214 37.74 43 35 239 86.1
2015 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16 535 312 58.32 4042 7.6 68 22 15 201 37.57 57 27 190 84.2
TOTAL 76 2559 1570 61.35 19812 7.7 337 121 88 995 38.88 241 171 1086 86.9

PS Don't forget Taysom broke all of Steve Young's records at BYU. But sure (tongue in cheek) "he's more valuable to us as a swiss army knife."
No, I am not a Mormon...not even close. But the guy can play Quarterback (better than Winston) and has PROVEN it.

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If I remember correctly, Winston did okay in college as well. It seems he won the Heisman AND the National Championship.

And I'm sure Winston had a grasp of the playbook by week 11. But with far more time under his belt with the playbook, Hill was the logical choice to start those few games. Now the difference between Winston's and Hill's playbook knowledge would be negligible and Hills value as a versatile weapon tips the scale in Winston's favor of starting moving forward.

And, I'm not sure what you are watching, but when has Hill ever shown he was better at playing QB than Winston? He has started four games in his entire NFL career. He managed to beat an Atlanta team with a horrible defense two of those games. He was the starting QB against a Denver team that had no QB's on the active gameday roster for another win. He lost to a poor Eagles squad in the other. He threw two picks and fumbled the ball FIVE times in his four starts. He has passed for FOUR TD's in his entire NFL career.

What about any of that is impressive?

:confused:

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72.7%

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Woohoo! Four games of hitting players in the flat against crappy defenses. Is that all you have?

What an amazing resume!

Coming into last year he was under 50% completion for his career.

6 for 15.

Boom!

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“But the guy can play Quarterback (better than Winston) and has PROVEN it.”

You had me up to this statement. By what measure has Hill proven he is a better QB than a guy who has a 5,000 yard season and a positive career TD/int ratio?

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Amen, and amen.