Si.com/Bob Rose | Could Kaden Elliss Impact the 2021 Saints Defense?

AsylumGuido · 06-14-2021, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Kaden Ellis ceiling is special teams.

Special teams players are needed.

K Major · 06-14-2021, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Special teams players are needed.

They are and I never said otherwise AG.

I'm glad Kaden is excelling there. It wouldn't surprise me if he earns that "C" placed on his jersey for special teams. Robinson probably won't be resigned in New Orleans anyway.

Simply not ready to anoint him as starter alongside DD.

AsylumGuido · 06-14-2021, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

They are and I never said otherwise AG.

I'm glad Kaden is excelling there. It wouldn't surprise me if he earns that "C" placed on his jersey for special teams. Robinson probably won't be resigned in New Orleans anyway.

Simply not ready to anoint him as starter alongside DD.

Relax, I wasn't saying you had said otherwise, K. I was piggybacking on your comment stressing the importance of special teams.

Boston Saint · 06-14-2021, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

They are and I never said otherwise AG.

I'm glad Kaden is excelling there. It wouldn't surprise me if he earns that "C" placed on his jersey for special teams. Robinson probably won't be resigned in New Orleans anyway.

Simply not ready to anoint him as starter alongside DD.

If he is starter alongside DD then the Baughn pick is looking like another failed LB for the Saints.

AsylumGuido · 06-14-2021, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

If he is starter alongside DD then the Baughn pick is looking like another failed LB for the Saints.

You can't have too much depth. Davis may be gone after the 2023 season. While we have played two LB sets almost exclusively recently that may not be the future. Not every player will have the opportunity to start. That does not mean they are a failure.

K Major · 06-14-2021, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

If he is starter alongside DD then the Baughn pick is looking like another failed LB for the Saints.

Yes. I remember Dennis Allen saying a few years ago that he intended to run multiple fronts but I hadn't seen much of that. It just appears that he'd be a much better fit in a 3-4 scheme. Hopefully this won't be a failed experiment with Zach & lost draft pick.

Once Kwon is 100% and is able to pass a physical, maybe he returns?

I'm also looking forward to see what rookie Pete Werner brings to the table as well.

AsylumGuido · 06-14-2021, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Yes. I remember Dennis Allen saying a few years ago that he intended to run multiple fronts but I hadn't seen much of that. It just appears that he'd be a much better fit in a 3-4 scheme. Hopefully this won't be a failed experiment with Zach & lost draft pick.

Once Kwon is 100% and is able to pass a physical, maybe he returns?

I'm also looking forward to see what rookie Pete Werner brings to the table as well.

As long as he gets playing time in whatever capacity over time it will not be a lost pick. I just hope one of them turns out being Davis' eventual replacement. But that may come next year. Or the next.

jeanpierre · 06-15-2021, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

If he is starter alongside DD then the Baughn pick is looking like another failed LB for the Saints.

Originally Posted by K Major

Yes. I remember Dennis Allen saying a few years ago that he intended to run multiple fronts but I hadn't seen much of that. It just appears that he'd be a much better fit in a 3-4 scheme. Hopefully this won't be a failed experiment with Zach & lost draft pick.

Once Kwon is 100% and is able to pass a physical, maybe he returns?

I'm also looking forward to see what rookie Pete Werner brings to the table as well.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

As long as he gets playing time in whatever capacity over time it will not be a lost pick. I just hope one of them turns out being Davis' eventual replacement. But that may come next year. Or the next.

Two third round picks invested in Baun; Sean got a third and a seventh round pick in return...

06-14-2021, 01:40 PM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Si.com/Bob Rose \| Could Kaden Elliss Impact the 2021 Saints Defense? Originally Posted by K Major Kaden Ellis ceiling is special teams. Special teams players are needed.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,826 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Si.com/Bob Rose \| Could Kaden Elliss Impact the 2021 Saints Defense? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Special teams players are needed. They are and I never said otherwise AG. I'm glad Kaden is excelling there. It wouldn't surprise me if he earns that "C" placed on his jersey for special teams. Robinson probably won't be resigned in New Orleans anyway. Simply not ready to anoint him as starter alongside DD.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Si.com/Bob Rose \| Could Kaden Elliss Impact the 2021 Saints Defense? Originally Posted by K Major They are and I never said otherwise AG. I'm glad Kaden is excelling there. It wouldn't surprise me if he earns that "C" placed on his jersey for special teams. Robinson probably won't be resigned in New Orleans anyway. Simply not ready to anoint him as starter alongside DD. Relax, I wasn't saying you had said otherwise, K. I was piggybacking on your comment stressing the importance of special teams. K Major likes this.

06-14-2021, 03:20 PM	#4
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Si.com/Bob Rose \| Could Kaden Elliss Impact the 2021 Saints Defense? Originally Posted by K Major They are and I never said otherwise AG. I'm glad Kaden is excelling there. It wouldn't surprise me if he earns that "C" placed on his jersey for special teams. Robinson probably won't be resigned in New Orleans anyway. Simply not ready to anoint him as starter alongside DD. If he is starter alongside DD then the Baughn pick is looking like another failed LB for the Saints.

06-14-2021, 03:32 PM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Si.com/Bob Rose \| Could Kaden Elliss Impact the 2021 Saints Defense? Originally Posted by Boston Saint If he is starter alongside DD then the Baughn pick is looking like another failed LB for the Saints. You can't have too much depth. Davis may be gone after the 2023 season. While we have played two LB sets almost exclusively recently that may not be the future. Not every player will have the opportunity to start. That does not mean they are a failure.

06-14-2021, 03:44 PM	#6
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,826 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Si.com/Bob Rose \| Could Kaden Elliss Impact the 2021 Saints Defense? Originally Posted by Boston Saint If he is starter alongside DD then the Baughn pick is looking like another failed LB for the Saints. Yes. I remember Dennis Allen saying a few years ago that he intended to run multiple fronts but I hadn't seen much of that. It just appears that he'd be a much better fit in a 3-4 scheme. Hopefully this won't be a failed experiment with Zach & lost draft pick. Once Kwon is 100% and is able to pass a physical, maybe he returns? I'm also looking forward to see what rookie Pete Werner brings to the table as well. saintsfan1976 and jeanpierre like this.

06-14-2021, 04:15 PM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Si.com/Bob Rose \| Could Kaden Elliss Impact the 2021 Saints Defense? Originally Posted by K Major Yes. I remember Dennis Allen saying a few years ago that he intended to run multiple fronts but I hadn't seen much of that. It just appears that he'd be a much better fit in a 3-4 scheme. Hopefully this won't be a failed experiment with Zach & lost draft pick. Once Kwon is 100% and is able to pass a physical, maybe he returns? I'm also looking forward to see what rookie Pete Werner brings to the table as well. As long as he gets playing time in whatever capacity over time it will not be a lost pick. I just hope one of them turns out being Davis' eventual replacement. But that may come next year. Or the next.

06-15-2021, 11:51 AM	#8
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Si.com/Bob Rose \| Could Kaden Elliss Impact the 2021 Saints Defense? Originally Posted by Boston Saint If he is starter alongside DD then the Baughn pick is looking like another failed LB for the Saints. Originally Posted by K Major Yes. I remember Dennis Allen saying a few years ago that he intended to run multiple fronts but I hadn't seen much of that. It just appears that he'd be a much better fit in a 3-4 scheme. Hopefully this won't be a failed experiment with Zach & lost draft pick. Once Kwon is 100% and is able to pass a physical, maybe he returns? I'm also looking forward to see what rookie Pete Werner brings to the table as well. Originally Posted by AsylumGuido As long as he gets playing time in whatever capacity over time it will not be a lost pick. I just hope one of them turns out being Davis' eventual replacement. But that may come next year. Or the next. Two third round picks invested in Baun; Sean got a third and a seventh round pick in return...