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jeanpierre 06-13-2021 10:20 AM
Si.com/Bob Rose | Could Kaden Elliss Impact the 2021 Saints Defense?
 

ChrisXVI 06-13-2021 11:17 AM
Re: Si.com/Bob Rose | Could Kaden Elliss Impact the 2021 Saints Defense?
 
No reason he can’t be our starting strong side LB since it’s such a small role these days anyway.

K Major 06-13-2021 04:30 PM
Re: Si.com/Bob Rose | Could Kaden Elliss Impact the 2021 Saints Defense?
 
Kaden Ellis ceiling is special teams.

SmashMouth 06-13-2021 05:03 PM
Re: Si.com/Bob Rose | Could Kaden Elliss Impact the 2021 Saints Defense?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 921966)
Kaden Ellis ceiling is special teams.
:popcorn:

turbo_dog 06-14-2021 09:07 AM
Re: Si.com/Bob Rose | Could Kaden Elliss Impact the 2021 Saints Defense?
 
He could easily meet my expectations, because my expectations are pretty low.

AsylumGuido 06-14-2021 01:40 PM
Re: Si.com/Bob Rose | Could Kaden Elliss Impact the 2021 Saints Defense?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 921966)
Kaden Ellis ceiling is special teams.
Special teams players are needed.

K Major 06-14-2021 01:52 PM
Re: Si.com/Bob Rose | Could Kaden Elliss Impact the 2021 Saints Defense?
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 922001)
Special teams players are needed.
They are and I never said otherwise AG.

I'm glad Kaden is excelling there. It wouldn't surprise me if he earns that "C" placed on his jersey for special teams. Robinson probably won't be resigned in New Orleans anyway.

Simply not ready to anoint him as starter alongside DD.

AsylumGuido 06-14-2021 02:06 PM
Re: Si.com/Bob Rose | Could Kaden Elliss Impact the 2021 Saints Defense?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 922004)
They are and I never said otherwise AG.

I'm glad Kaden is excelling there. It wouldn't surprise me if he earns that "C" placed on his jersey for special teams. Robinson probably won't be resigned in New Orleans anyway.

Simply not ready to anoint him as starter alongside DD.
Relax, I wasn't saying you had said otherwise, K. I was piggybacking on your comment stressing the importance of special teams.

:cool:

Boston Saint 06-14-2021 03:20 PM
Re: Si.com/Bob Rose | Could Kaden Elliss Impact the 2021 Saints Defense?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 922004)
They are and I never said otherwise AG.

I'm glad Kaden is excelling there. It wouldn't surprise me if he earns that "C" placed on his jersey for special teams. Robinson probably won't be resigned in New Orleans anyway.

Simply not ready to anoint him as starter alongside DD.
If he is starter alongside DD then the Baughn pick is looking like another failed LB for the Saints.

AsylumGuido 06-14-2021 03:32 PM
Re: Si.com/Bob Rose | Could Kaden Elliss Impact the 2021 Saints Defense?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 922015)
If he is starter alongside DD then the Baughn pick is looking like another failed LB for the Saints.
You can't have too much depth. Davis may be gone after the 2023 season. While we have played two LB sets almost exclusively recently that may not be the future. Not every player will have the opportunity to start. That does not mean they are a failure.

K Major 06-14-2021 03:44 PM
Re: Si.com/Bob Rose | Could Kaden Elliss Impact the 2021 Saints Defense?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 922015)
If he is starter alongside DD then the Baughn pick is looking like another failed LB for the Saints.
Yes. I remember Dennis Allen saying a few years ago that he intended to run multiple fronts but I hadn't seen much of that. It just appears that he'd be a much better fit in a 3-4 scheme. Hopefully this won't be a failed experiment with Zach & lost draft pick.

Once Kwon is 100% and is able to pass a physical, maybe he returns?

I'm also looking forward to see what rookie Pete Werner brings to the table as well.

AsylumGuido 06-14-2021 04:15 PM
Re: Si.com/Bob Rose | Could Kaden Elliss Impact the 2021 Saints Defense?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 922019)
Yes. I remember Dennis Allen saying a few years ago that he intended to run multiple fronts but I hadn't seen much of that. It just appears that he'd be a much better fit in a 3-4 scheme. Hopefully this won't be a failed experiment with Zach & lost draft pick.

Once Kwon is 100% and is able to pass a physical, maybe he returns?

I'm also looking forward to see what rookie Pete Werner brings to the table as well.
As long as he gets playing time in whatever capacity over time it will not be a lost pick. I just hope one of them turns out being Davis' eventual replacement. But that may come next year. Or the next.

jeanpierre 06-15-2021 11:51 AM
Re: Si.com/Bob Rose | Could Kaden Elliss Impact the 2021 Saints Defense?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 922015)
If he is starter alongside DD then the Baughn pick is looking like another failed LB for the Saints.
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 922019)
Yes. I remember Dennis Allen saying a few years ago that he intended to run multiple fronts but I hadn't seen much of that. It just appears that he'd be a much better fit in a 3-4 scheme. Hopefully this won't be a failed experiment with Zach & lost draft pick.

Once Kwon is 100% and is able to pass a physical, maybe he returns?

I'm also looking forward to see what rookie Pete Werner brings to the table as well.
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 922020)
As long as he gets playing time in whatever capacity over time it will not be a lost pick. I just hope one of them turns out being Davis' eventual replacement. But that may come next year. Or the next.
Two third round picks invested in Baun; Sean got a third and a seventh round pick in return...


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