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USA Today/SaintsWire | Marcus Williams will benefit from Jamal Adams’ blockbuster Seahawks deal

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by SmashMouth How much of a whiff-on-a-SB-ticket-punching-play discount do we get? Get over it, nobody was gonna beat the Eagles that year. Nobody. I’m not convinced we would have beaten NY in 2011 either....

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Old 08-18-2021, 09:02 PM   #1
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Re: USA Today/SaintsWire | Marcus Williams will benefit from Jamal Adams’ blockbuster Seahawks deal

Originally Posted by SmashMouth View Post
How much of a whiff-on-a-SB-ticket-punching-play discount do we get?

Get over it, nobody was gonna beat the Eagles that year. Nobody.
I’m not convinced we would have beaten NY in 2011 either.
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Old 08-18-2021, 09:27 PM   #2
 
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Get over it, nobody was gonna beat the Eagles that year. Nobody.
I’m not convinced we would have beaten NY in 2011 either.
We'll never know, will we?

Why didn't Coach SP know the rulebook like BB with regards to penalties at the end of the game? Ultimately, it's in his lap.
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Old 08-18-2021, 09:41 PM   #3
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Re: USA Today/SaintsWire | Marcus Williams will benefit from Jamal Adams’ blockbuster Seahawks deal

Originally Posted by SmashMouth View Post
We'll never know, will we?

Why didn't Coach SP know the rulebook like BB with regards to penalties at the end of the game? Ultimately, it's in his lap.
Without Coach SP we wouldn't have been in the position to begin with.

Right?
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Old 08-20-2021, 07:38 AM   #4
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth View Post
We'll never know, will we?

Why didn't Coach SP know the rulebook like BB with regards to penalties at the end of the game? Ultimately, it's in his lap.
Penalty is a penalty shouldn't matter when it happens. And it wasn't that he didn't know the rule Refs are allowed to operate in a different facet than players/coaches
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Old 08-20-2021, 07:49 AM   #5
 
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Penalty is a penalty shouldn't matter when it happens. And it wasn't that he didn't know the rule Refs are allowed to operate in a different facet than players/coaches
We were trying to run out the clock. A coach can tell his team to commit a certain penalty to trigger the clock to run down. If SP knew the rulebook like BB, we win both games, Minihaha miracle AND the PI no call Lambs game. Those plays then never would have made history since they wouldn't have existed. BB used that in a game and won a game for NE, even though they were ahead by a lot.

Belichick exploited “loophole” in NFL rules to run extra time off the clock

Comments in the article are priceless.

In both those games, we were merely trying to run off less than 30 seconds which we could have easily done a little earlier when we had to punt.

Now as far as the Whiners' game, that's just plain stupidity in not covering Vernon Davis better. So that's THREE games that should have earned us SB berths. How many of those would we have won? We've been speculating since. Most argue that we were the juggernaut in those three years. So who knows. But I reckon the Saints would have won at least one more Tiffany.

Now the year SP was suspended, that was plain wrong of Herr Kommissar Goodell. It's well documented every team did, and many continue to do, the very same incentivisations to win games. Now that we have gambling allowed, we'll see unfold in all likelihood many permutations of this throughout the league. Those that think games are fixed will have plenty more fodder with which to banter this subject.
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Re: USA Today/SaintsWire | Marcus Williams will benefit from Jamal Adams’ blockbuster Seahawks deal

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Get over it, nobody was gonna beat the Eagles that year. Nobody.
I’m not convinced we would have beaten NY in 2011 either.
Totally disagree, we had the weapons to win it all; we were soft on defense and got exposed...
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Totally disagree, we had the weapons to win it all; we were soft on defense and got exposed...
We def would have beat the Eagles don't believe the hype. And 2011 don't get me started that SB would have been better than 2009 after that Safnran game. Marcus Williams is a Blue Chip player and their aren't replacements just walking around that can do what he does. Someone made of joke of this missed tackles what have you don for me lately and he didn't miss many last year. His style of play is way more valuable than Adam's we had Roman Harper laying his role NEITHER can cover. I rather go with the cover safety than the limited Blitzer if you ask me Adam's got overpaid
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Re: USA Today/SaintsWire | Marcus Williams will benefit from Jamal Adams’ blockbuster Seahawks deal

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Totally disagree, we had the weapons to win it all; we were soft on defense and got exposed...
Our defense wouldn’t have faired any better against the Eagles. It was just their year. They had the football Gods on their side that year kind of like we did in 09.
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Our defense wouldn’t have faired any better against the Eagles. It was just their year. They had the football Gods on their side that year kind of like we did in 09.
We'd outscored them easily; they were fortunate that the schedule fell there way...
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