Kwon & Davenport placed on IR
 

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Let's hope we are just getting our injuries out of the way early.

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Man, injuries hit us hard. It's like teams try to hit us harder or something.

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Loving this three week IR and being able to bring up players. I really minimizes the effects.

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I feel like if Davenport could stay healthy and find a groove, he could be an All-Pro caliber player. Even when he's not out, he always has something lingering. It's very frustrating to watch. I don't fault guys for getting hurt, especially in this league, where one misstep can end your career. All I can say is feel bad for him and feel frustrated. I just hope he's doing the right things to keep his body strong and less injury prone.


The shorter IR is something that should have happened a long long time ago. Hell, I think they should make rosters even more adaptable.

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I hope Granderson comes in and shows he's better and more available than Davenport.

Would be nice to see Payton Turner too

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I was surprised Kwon was back so soon anyway. Having him play week one was just a luxury. See ya in 3 weeks.

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I think Davenport has a really high ceiling. I just feel like he can't play consistently enough without something nagging him. I think if he played an entire season without something breaking down on him, he'd change quite a few minds amongst Saints fans. There's just too many plays where I see crazy athleticism from him. I don't know if he'll ever be the player we want him to be because of his issues, which is a shame. I haven't given up on him pulling it together yet though.

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Davenport is beginning to reach Jairus Byrd level as it relates to availability.

Most of us already knew Kwon is hit or miss. His injury history has been well documented. The NFL is a grind.

Ice up.

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What about the 7 VACCINATED coaches getting Covid? Anyone feel safer attending a vaccinated crowd of 70,000? I’m one of those people who get the flu when I get the flu vaccine. When I don’t get the flu vax 99% of the time I don’t get flu.
Liberal? Vax MANDATES are as logical as evacuating US bases in Afghanistan before civilians.
My body, my choice - only works for Liberals? When they want to kill babies.
If some are forced to get vax - will those forcing them be liable for their illness or death? THEY SHOULD BE BUT WONT.

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Careful Thirty. Asking questions like this may lead to a charge of spreading misinformation. After all, Biden said his patience is wearing thin.

As for Davenport, this fan has had enough of him. Three draft picks with two first rounders spent on this reach clearly has not paid off. Cue up all those that want to use his injuries as excuses. Cut bait and get a player in there who will actually see the friggin field. Nothing against the player personally. Like his game in the 30 or so percent of the time he’s been available. But that ain’t enough. Just my take.

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I’m only frustrated at Davenport availability. His talent is undeniable.
The picks given up don’t bother me because most 1st rounders never live up to their draft position anyway. Look at our roster, most of our studs aren’t 1st rd picks. AK himself is worth two 1st rounders himself. Just look at our secondary, outside of Jenkins, all of them have proven to be 1st rd trade players if that was considered. Basically, I’m saying we’ve been fortunate enough to land players who where drafted beyond the 1st rd, whom have played like 1st rounders.

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I realize it’s not his fault, but the picks given up do bug me. The two first rounders could have been traded for say two third rounders each. Pair that with the additional third given to trade up and that’s 5 third rounders that could have been used to try and replace the production Davenport had shown so far.

I don’t dislike the player. I don’t dislike his game. If he’d have stayed even somewhat healthy he would have warranted a 14th overall pick. But a heck of a lot more than a 14th was spent on him and he’s spent a heck a lot of time on the injured list.

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All of this is true but you can see why they moved up, the kid is a game wrecker when healthy. I know that’s few and far between but let’s not forget Ingram was injured most of his early career, same goes for Hendrickson. Also, the Saints don’t trade up unless they absolutely love that player. I would resign him to a low deal to see if he could get over the injury bug when his rookie contract is up. Just my opinion on Davenport.

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Not resigning Davenport Armstead, and Hill will save a lot of cash next year.

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Water under the bridge. Why dwell on the past? How does that help? Does it make you feel better?

I'm sorry, but I simply do not get the angst over something that has absolutely no present relevance. All of this "what could have been" talk is useless. It's just another excuse to ***** and moan.

:rolleyes:

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We have a serious case of the next man up syndrome.

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We have next men capable of stepping up.

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Death and taxes..

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True Dat. Surprisingly. Especially with all the talent we let walk gave us with the contract restructures during the offseason.

Don't be surprised to see a new face on the roster with the new cap space Loomis just created with the restructured contracts.

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It’s not water under the bridge because the player is not available for the game tomorrow. Can’t for the life of me figure out why you come down on someone expressing an opinion. F-off.

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Jairus Byrd always underperformed

Wasn’t the ball hawk that Sean traded away for

Davenport when he is healthy is a force of nature
And we didn’t bring him in from another team

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They did not give up two first rounders and a third for Davenport

They swapped a lower number first round 2018 pick for a higher numbered one
Then gave Green Bay a higher number 2019 first round pick
They also gave Green Bay a 3rd round pick.

Essentially they took a much desired player
Ended up giving up a third and a late first round pick

Marcus looked good against Green Bay
Lets hope he has the drive to thrive

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Yes it is water under the bridge. It makes no difference whether they used eight 1st rounders on him or if he was a UDFA. The fact that he can't play this week has nothing to do with when he was acquired. Right?

And coming down on you? Touchy much? ;)

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That’s three picks spent on Davenport.

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No, just calling your BS.

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Just because you cannot understand the concept does not make it BS. But you just keep on rockin' that dwelling on irrelevant past issues. If it makes you happy that's all that matters!

:D

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So glad I don’t need your permission.

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I think you missed my point. Coaches and GMs could care less if you are a former 1st rounder, acquired free agent or undrafted player. If you are missing games, you can’t help the team.

BEST ABILITY IS AVAILABILITY.

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Exactly! Coaches and GM's know that when or how a player has been acquired doesn't matter. Every player on the roster is looked at only in what they provide come gameday. Otherwise no one would ever release a 1st round pick and it happens fairly regularly.

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Guido, I swear I am not trying to be a jerk here. However I think you missed Major’s point as well. I apologize Major and correct me
if I’m wrong, but the capitalized part is key:

BEST ABILITY IS AVAILABILITY

In other words if you aren’t available to play you aren’t worth sh*t to the team. That’s his point.

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Which is literally Davenport in a nutshell.

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i’ll bring another player in here as a comparison. Let’s look at Peat. He was taken at 13 and no trades were made to get that position. Everyone loves to attack him and his play. They make fun of him and joke about what a bad pic he was. Yet has been there and played through injuries and remained a starter. In his first 3 years he started 37 games.

Davenport was taken at 14 and three picks were used to get in that position. The injury excuse is made constantly for him. In his first 3 years he has started 14 games.

I’m not even saying Peat has been a “better” lineman than Davenport has been DE. But I do see a double standard in the way Peat is “evaluated” considering the comparison of draft capital invested.

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As for the draft picks spent discussion, I know all don't feel the same way. However, my view is that Davenport plays in an performance driven sport, if you pay a high price for a player, then that naturally comes with expectations.

If I bought a car for £25000 and it broke down more than a £500 car did, I'd be annoyed.

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On the bright side Peyton Turner was impressive against Carolina..