Si.com/Bob Rose | Saints Shortcomings at Receiver Hampering Offense

jeanpierre · 09-22-2021, 02:32 PM

dizzle88 · 09-22-2021, 02:36 PM

Think a lot of us have been saying this for a while.

Brees in his prime, turned a bunch of unwanted Receivers into basically all pro's and Saints Legends. Ever since then, I think Payton sees that position as not needed as much so chooses to address it via UDFA.

Now we don't have that level of QB, that sort of thought process won't help Jameis out at all.

K Major · 09-22-2021, 02:54 PM

Well when you ignore drafting @ WR for 3 consecutive seasons, this is often the end result at this level. Way too many undrafted guys at WR on this roster for my taste.

I'm hopeful Kenny Stills can take some heat off Callaway until Mike returns.

The Saints being currently ranked #32 in passing yards is something you never see in a Sean Payton offense.

Lord_Saint83 · 09-22-2021, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Well when you ignore drafting @ WR for 3 consecutive seasons, this is often the end result at this level. Way too many undrafted guys at WR on this roster for my taste.

I'm hopeful Kenny Stills can take some heat off Callaway until Mike returns.

The Saints being currently ranked #32 in passing yards is something you never see in a Sean Payton offense.

I don't understand that either, K. With Brees they got Sanders to take pressure off MT and help Brees out. Why would they not do that for Jameis or Taysom knowing they aren’t at that level. I would of traded up in that draft in the second and got Marshall. Did they seriously think Tre’Quan could be trusted to play 17 games? That’s a lot of misplaced trust

dizzle88 · 09-22-2021, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83

I don't understand that either, K. With Brees they got Sanders to take pressure off MT and help Brees out. Why would they not do that for Jameis or Taysom knowing they aren’t at that level. I would of traded up in that draft in the second and got Marshall. Did they seriously think Tre’Quan could be trusted to play 17 games? That’s a lot of misplaced trust

Not only the injury factor either, Trequan is not someone that you could think "yeah he'll bail Winston out when he's in trouble."

Guy has like 1 or 2 decent games a year. The rest he's either injured or invisible.

Seems like Winston isn't set up for success with a bad O line and no talent at WR.

Lord_Saint83 · 09-22-2021, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Not only the injury factor either, Trequan is not someone that you could think "yeah he'll bail Winston out when he's in trouble."

Guy has like 1 or 2 decent games a year. The rest he's either injured or invisible.

Seems like Winston isn't set up for success with a bad O line and no talent at WR.

Sanders could of been that guy they hoped Quan could be. I don’t know if they even tried to resign him to a decent contract if he wanted to stay. From what I heard MT delaying the surgery hurt us a lot. He was supposed to be ready week 1. That’s why CSP was so pissed, cause it threw a major monkey wrench in the offense. I’ll say this though I still wouldn't of been sold on Quan as our no. 2

dizzle88 · 09-22-2021, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83

Sanders could of been that guy they hoped Quan could be. I don’t know if they even tried to resign him to a decent contract if he wanted to stay. From what I heard MT delaying the surgery hurt us a lot. He was supposed to be ready week 1. That’s why CSP was so pissed, cause it threw a major monkey wrench in the offense. I’ll say this though I still wouldn't of been sold on Quan as our no. 2

Agreed, even if Trequan was healthy, Callaway and Harris are above him in terms of talent in my opinion.

AsylumGuido · 09-22-2021, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Not only the injury factor either, Trequan is not someone that you could think "yeah he'll bail Winston out when he's in trouble."

Guy has like 1 or 2 decent games a year. The rest he's either injured or invisible.

Seems like Winston isn't set up for success with a bad O line and no talent at WR.

The o-line isn't bad. 80% of the league would give their right nut to have the Saints offensive line.

Lord_Saint83 · 09-22-2021, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Agreed, even if Trequan was healthy, Callaway and Harris are above him in terms of talent in my opinion.

Callaway is naturally a no. 3 but if you got a MT or Hopkins type guy that no matter how many people covering them, they still get separation and make tough catches. He can be a ok to decent no. 2

neugey · 09-22-2021, 08:13 PM

Always lots of WR's in the 3rd-5th round who can play, but we rarely seem to
get one - usually because of lack of picks due to trading up

09-22-2021, 02:32 PM	#1
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09-22-2021, 02:36 PM	#2
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 10,838	Re: Si.com/Bob Rose \| Saints Shortcomings at Receiver Hampering Offense Think a lot of us have been saying this for a while. Brees in his prime, turned a bunch of unwanted Receivers into basically all pro's and Saints Legends. Ever since then, I think Payton sees that position as not needed as much so chooses to address it via UDFA. Now we don't have that level of QB, that sort of thought process won't help Jameis out at all. ChrisXVI and darksoul35 like this.

09-22-2021, 04:31 PM	#4
Lord_Saint83 100% Blunt Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Saint Gabriel, La Posts: 2,754	Re: Si.com/Bob Rose \| Saints Shortcomings at Receiver Hampering Offense Originally Posted by K Major Well when you ignore drafting @ WR for 3 consecutive seasons, this is often the end result at this level. Way too many undrafted guys at WR on this roster for my taste. I'm hopeful Kenny Stills can take some heat off Callaway until Mike returns. The Saints being currently ranked #32 in passing yards is something you never see in a Sean Payton offense. I don't understand that either, K. With Brees they got Sanders to take pressure off MT and help Brees out. Why would they not do that for Jameis or Taysom knowing they aren’t at that level. I would of traded up in that draft in the second and got Marshall. Did they seriously think Tre’Quan could be trusted to play 17 games? That’s a lot of misplaced trust Rugby Saint II likes this.

09-22-2021, 04:39 PM	#5
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 10,838	Re: Si.com/Bob Rose \| Saints Shortcomings at Receiver Hampering Offense Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 I don't understand that either, K. With Brees they got Sanders to take pressure off MT and help Brees out. Why would they not do that for Jameis or Taysom knowing they aren’t at that level. I would of traded up in that draft in the second and got Marshall. Did they seriously think Tre’Quan could be trusted to play 17 games? That’s a lot of misplaced trust Not only the injury factor either, Trequan is not someone that you could think "yeah he'll bail Winston out when he's in trouble." Guy has like 1 or 2 decent games a year. The rest he's either injured or invisible. Seems like Winston isn't set up for success with a bad O line and no talent at WR. Boston Saint likes this.

09-22-2021, 04:51 PM	#6
Lord_Saint83 100% Blunt Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Saint Gabriel, La Posts: 2,754	Re: Si.com/Bob Rose \| Saints Shortcomings at Receiver Hampering Offense Originally Posted by dizzle88 Not only the injury factor either, Trequan is not someone that you could think "yeah he'll bail Winston out when he's in trouble." Guy has like 1 or 2 decent games a year. The rest he's either injured or invisible. Seems like Winston isn't set up for success with a bad O line and no talent at WR. Sanders could of been that guy they hoped Quan could be. I don’t know if they even tried to resign him to a decent contract if he wanted to stay. From what I heard MT delaying the surgery hurt us a lot. He was supposed to be ready week 1. That’s why CSP was so pissed, cause it threw a major monkey wrench in the offense. I’ll say this though I still wouldn't of been sold on Quan as our no. 2 Rugby Saint II, dizzle88, K Major and 1 others like this.

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09-22-2021, 02:54 PM	#3
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,028 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Si.com/Bob Rose \| Saints Shortcomings at Receiver Hampering Offense Well when you ignore drafting @ WR for 3 consecutive seasons, this is often the end result at this level. Way too many undrafted guys at WR on this roster for my taste. I'm hopeful Kenny Stills can take some heat off Callaway until Mike returns. The Saints being currently ranked #32 in passing yards is something you never see in a Sean Payton offense. Lord_Saint83 and Thirty3 like this.

09-22-2021, 04:53 PM	#7
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 10,838	Re: Si.com/Bob Rose \| Saints Shortcomings at Receiver Hampering Offense Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 Sanders could of been that guy they hoped Quan could be. I don’t know if they even tried to resign him to a decent contract if he wanted to stay. From what I heard MT delaying the surgery hurt us a lot. He was supposed to be ready week 1. That’s why CSP was so pissed, cause it threw a major monkey wrench in the offense. I’ll say this though I still wouldn't of been sold on Quan as our no. 2 Agreed, even if Trequan was healthy, Callaway and Harris are above him in terms of talent in my opinion. Lord_Saint83 and Boston Saint like this.

09-22-2021, 04:56 PM	#8
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,392	Re: Si.com/Bob Rose \| Saints Shortcomings at Receiver Hampering Offense Originally Posted by dizzle88 Not only the injury factor either, Trequan is not someone that you could think "yeah he'll bail Winston out when he's in trouble." Guy has like 1 or 2 decent games a year. The rest he's either injured or invisible. Seems like Winston isn't set up for success with a bad O line and no talent at WR. The o-line isn't bad. 80% of the league would give their right nut to have the Saints offensive line. leilung, FinSaint, darksoul35 and 1 others like this.

09-22-2021, 04:58 PM	#9
Lord_Saint83 100% Blunt Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Saint Gabriel, La Posts: 2,754	Re: Si.com/Bob Rose \| Saints Shortcomings at Receiver Hampering Offense Originally Posted by dizzle88 Agreed, even if Trequan was healthy, Callaway and Harris are above him in terms of talent in my opinion. Callaway is naturally a no. 3 but if you got a MT or Hopkins type guy that no matter how many people covering them, they still get separation and make tough catches. He can be a ok to decent no. 2

09-22-2021, 08:13 PM	#10
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,591 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Si.com/Bob Rose \| Saints Shortcomings at Receiver Hampering Offense Always lots of WR's in the 3rd-5th round who can play, but we rarely seem to get one - usually because of lack of picks due to trading up SmashMouth and Boston Saint like this.