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RailBoss 10-06-2021 12:27 AM

Saints release Aldrick Rosas, agree to terms with Cody Parkey
 
With Will Lutz still on injured reserve, the Saints are swapping kickers.

New Orleans released Aldrick Rosas on Tuesday after the kicker missed another field goal in the team’s loss to the Giants on Sunday. Rosas previously missed a pair of field goals in the Saints victory over New England in Week Three.

With Rosas out, NFL Media’s Ian Rapoport reported Tuesday that New Orleans has agreed to terms with Cody Parkey. He was most recently with the Browns who released him off injured reserve in August. In his second stint with Cleveland in 2020, Parkey was 19-for-22 on field goals and 43-for-47 on extra points. He also sent 56 percent of his kickoffs for touchbacks.

Parkey has made 85 percent of his career field goals and 94 percent of his extra points.

Lutz is eligible to return from IR at any time after missing three games due to core muscle surgery.
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stickman 10-06-2021 07:34 AM

Re: Saints release Aldrick Rosas, agree to terms with Cody Parkey
 
Not surprised the move was made, but how many really good kickers are out there without a team?

jnormand 10-06-2021 07:50 AM

Re: Saints release Aldrick Rosas, agree to terms with Cody Parkey
 
Parkey is a better option. Of course...I'm probably a better option at this point. Lol

neugey 10-06-2021 08:07 AM

Re: Saints release Aldrick Rosas, agree to terms with Cody Parkey
 
Important to get our kicker right, because Lutz's status still seems kind of iffy - at least looking from the outside.

SmashMouth 10-06-2021 08:10 AM

Re: Saints release Aldrick Rosas, agree to terms with Cody Parkey
 
Meanwhile Verity is wondering WTF!

https://c.tenor.com/hzWXsx8eGQoAAAAM...nd-waiting.gif

https://c.tenor.com/08N_GGvhzrEAAAAM/waiting.gif

K Major 10-06-2021 08:24 AM

Re: Saints release Aldrick Rosas, agree to terms with Cody Parkey
 
I guess when kickers start costing you games, you make moves.

This should have been done weeks ago.

Rugby Saint II 10-06-2021 11:16 AM

Re: Saints release Aldrick Rosas, agree to terms with Cody Parkey
 
Finally!!!

AsylumGuido 10-06-2021 11:19 AM

Re: Saints release Aldrick Rosas, agree to terms with Cody Parkey
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 930668)

What is the big deal about Verity? He made some kicks in a preseason game against the Saints so now he's some sort of kicking machine? If he was really as great as some around here think why hasn't any of the other 31 teams snatched him off of the practice squad?

Well?

K Major 10-06-2021 12:21 PM

Re: Saints release Aldrick Rosas, agree to terms with Cody Parkey
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 930715)
What is the big deal about Verity? He made some kicks in a preseason game against the Saints so now he's some sort of kicking machine? If he was really as great as some around here think why hasn't any of the other 31 teams snatched him off of the practice squad?

Well?

Same reason we snatched up Will Lutz from the Ravens a few years ago. He's consistent, young, and accurate. If the Ravens still have you on their squad as a kicker, you must be legit. They just so happen to have a legend, J Tucker, in front of him.

Low-risk, high reward on Verity ... Unless you believe our offense is so good that we can't use his services :eek:

Lutz had a groin injury & those can & will linger.

AsylumGuido 10-06-2021 03:16 PM

Re: Saints release Aldrick Rosas, agree to terms with Cody Parkey
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 930733)
Same reason we snatched up Will Lutz from the Ravens a few years ago. He's consistent, young, and accurate. If the Ravens still have you on their squad as a kicker, you must be legit. They just so happen to have a legend, J Tucker, in front of him.

Low-risk, high reward on Verity ... Unless you believe our offense is so good that we can't use his services :eek:

Lutz had a groin injury & those can & will linger.

How do you know he is consistent? He's never attempted a regular season kick in the NFL. I'll give you young. Accurate? Maybe. No way to know for sure until he actually kicks for real.

MatthewT 10-06-2021 03:29 PM

Re: Saints release Aldrick Rosas, agree to terms with Cody Parkey
 
I too was hoping Verity would become the Saints kicker, but after looking at his college stats I am not so sure:

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb...-verity-1.html

K Major 10-06-2021 03:29 PM

Re: Saints release Aldrick Rosas, agree to terms with Cody Parkey
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 930759)
How do you know he is consistent? He's never attempted a regular season kick in the NFL. I'll give you young. Accurate? Maybe. No way to know for sure until he actually kicks for real.


6 - 7 extra points. 4-5 FG attempts. Is that not consistent?

He couldn't be any worse than the Cody or the dude we just cut. You can only do so much when Tucker is getting all the reps at practice. Nonetheless, Verity is a damn good kicker & sure as hell got my attention in the preseason and also against playing us (53 yarder). Pre-season is for evaluation right?

"The only difference between a 1st rounder and an undrafted player is an opportunity". Tom Brady

The Saints aren't good enough to get by right now. We need all of the points we can get.

dizzle88 10-06-2021 03:51 PM

Re: Saints release Aldrick Rosas, agree to terms with Cody Parkey
 
Isn't Parkey the guy who played for the Browns in 2018 and could have beat us, had he not missed 3 or 4 FG's?

I'd rather Taysom kick if so -_-

AsylumGuido 10-06-2021 03:58 PM

Re: Saints release Aldrick Rosas, agree to terms with Cody Parkey
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 930762)
6 - 7 extra points. 4-5 FG attempts. Is that not consistent?

He couldn't be any worse than the Cody or the dude we just cut. You can only do so much when Tucker is getting all the reps at practice. Nonetheless, Verity is a damn good kicker & sure as hell got my attention in the preseason and also against playing us (53 yarder). Pre-season is for evaluation right?

"The only difference between a 1st rounder and an undrafted player is an opportunity". Tom Brady

The Saints aren't good enough to get by right now. We need all of the points we can get.

In preseason against backup special teamers ... nothing there to get excited about. He kicked a 53 yard meaningless FG against us in preseason. Once again, if he was all that then why hasn't any of the other 31 teams picked him up off the PS?

As Matthew pointed out, Verity was only 14-21 in FG attempts his senior year at East Carolina. 74-98 his entire career. He was no more than average at a small school.

What's the hype?

jnormand 10-06-2021 04:21 PM

Re: Saints release Aldrick Rosas, agree to terms with Cody Parkey
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 930767)
Isn't Parkey the guy who played for the Browns in 2018 and could have beat us, had he not missed 3 or 4 FG's?

I'd rather Taysom kick if so -_-

Bahahahaha! He does everything else. Probably can kick too.

Lord_Saint83 10-06-2021 04:23 PM

Re: Saints release Aldrick Rosas, agree to terms with Cody Parkey
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 930767)
Isn't Parkey the guy who played for the Browns in 2018 and could have beat us, had he not missed 3 or 4 FG's?

I'd rather Taysom kick if so -_-


That was Zane Gonzales. Trust me I know I was there.

RailBoss 10-07-2021 12:34 AM

Re: Saints release Aldrick Rosas, agree to terms with Cody Parkey
 
Doesn't matter now we got Perky Parkey kicking for us until Lutz gets back. Rosas just wasn't getting it done so on we go.

dizzle88 10-07-2021 03:43 AM

Re: Saints release Aldrick Rosas, agree to terms with Cody Parkey
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 (Post 930776)
That was Zane Gonzales. Trust me I know I was there.

Good shout lol

So Parkey is the Chicago double doink guy isn't he?

Cruize 10-07-2021 10:48 AM

Re: Saints release Aldrick Rosas, agree to terms with Cody Parkey
 
A week late.

AsylumGuido 10-07-2021 11:20 AM

Re: Saints release Aldrick Rosas, agree to terms with Cody Parkey
 
One more note on the PK Verity. I remember hearing the former Bucs GM, Mark Dominik, talking about the importance of maintaining good relations with fellow GM's around the league. It had to do with snatching players either while being released for an in season move to the practice squad or signing off of the practice squad. While it is well within the rules it could hamper future dealings with the other team's management. He said something about weighing the benefits against the clear drawback.

That got me thinking about the situation with Verity. Practice squad players hold more value to a team than does a free agent, of course. They likely have a greater value to most other teams, as well. This coupled with a rule that requires paying three weeks of the players salary if claimed off of another team's practice squad, regardless of whether they remain on the acquiring team's roster for less time than that or not, could be problematic. This would render a practice squad player a poor candidate for a very short term active roster pickup. First off you would be burning a minimum of three times the rookie base salary for a single week's usage against your cap. Secondly, you can be assured that any move to demote the player to your own practice squad to get future value would fail as they would surely be snatched back up by some other club via waivers for their own practice squad.

Would this be worth the cost of the move and the possibility of pissing off a fellow GM in addition? I feel this type of move might be worth it for a player that is likely to remain on the acquiring team's roster for an extended period, but a free agent would be more logical for short term usage with only a game to game obligation in regards to both cap and business relations.

Rugby Saint II 10-07-2021 12:00 PM

Re: Saints release Aldrick Rosas, agree to terms with Cody Parkey
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 930813)
One more note on the PK Verity. I remember hearing the former Bucs GM, Mark Dominik, talking about the importance of maintaining good relations with fellow GM's around the league. It had to do with snatching players either while being released for an in season move to the practice squad or signing off of the practice squad. While it is well within the rules it could hamper future dealings with the other team's management. He said something about weighing the benefits against the clear drawback.

That got me thinking about the situation with Verity. Practice squad players hold more value to a team than does a free agent, of course. They likely have a greater value to most other teams, as well. This coupled with a rule that requires paying three weeks of the players salary if claimed off of another team's practice squad, regardless of whether they remain on the acquiring team's roster for less time than that or not, could be problematic. This would render a practice squad player a poor candidate for a very short term active roster pickup. First off you would be burning a minimum of three times the rookie base salary for a single week's usage against your cap. Secondly, you can be assured that any move to demote the player to your own practice squad to get future value would fail as they would surely be snatched back up by some other club via waivers for their own practice squad.

Would this be worth the cost of the move and the possibility of pissing off a fellow GM in addition? I feel this type of move might be worth it for a player that is likely to remain on the acquiring team's roster for an extended period, but a free agent would be more logical for short term usage with only a game to game obligation in regards to both cap and business relations.

I see your point about paying a player three weeks if you only need them for one. I'm of the opinion that this isn't a game to management. They would do it to me and therefore I'm willing to "play that game" to get a player I want or need. Business dealings can be very cut throat.

AsylumGuido 10-07-2021 12:10 PM

Re: Saints release Aldrick Rosas, agree to terms with Cody Parkey
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 930815)
I see your point about paying a player three weeks if you only need them for one. I'm of the opinion that this isn't a game to management. They would do it to me and therefore I'm willing to "play that game" to get a player I want or need. Business dealings can be very cut throat.

This is to the point that Dominik was trying to make. He said that the more established and successful GM's are the ones that maintain those good relations. He said that the philosophy of "you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours" tends to get you further than "what comes around goes around" in that business. He basically said a GM needs to weigh the consequences in every move, something that matters not to the average fan.


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