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This is a hypothetical question for users in regards to asking where would you invest the money going forward. It’s a thought I had for fun. Assume (for
fun) that both players would stay healthy and play at the top level we have seen so far of their respective game. Who would you rather sign to a 5 year deal....Davenport or Williams?

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Davenport, pressure on the QB makes the secondary better by default IMO.

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Thanks for input

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Since we are assuming both players will be healthy, the answer is Davenport. Good/great defensive ends are very difficult to come by, and although Williams is one of the best free safeties in the business, it is my belief that is not the best position to have one of the leagues top salaries.

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Davenport and its not even close. Williams is very good and not yet in his prime but it is easier to find an equal player at saftey because he isn't a physical freak.

Davenport however posesses physical skill very rarly seen. He has a strength/speed combination that is freakish. Injuries has slowed down his progress so far but if he can stay healthy there is no reason whatsoever for 15+ sack seasons not being the norm for him.

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I tend to agree on Davenport if healthy. Looking for some Williams support though.

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I'm going to say Davenport, I hold my breath when Williams has to make an open field tackle (heck of a good cover safety though)

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Definitely Davenport. He’s an absolute monster.

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I would rather spend the money on subtraction than addition. Use the money to get out of the bad contracts with Peat, Thomas, and Hill rather than letting the obligations haunt us for years to come with repeated restructurings until their cap number is $50 million each in 2030. If Davenport and Williams both leave, we get comp picks. Davenport cant stay healthy enough to be worth more than 5 million a year and he will cost more. Williams is a great safety on paper but doesnt seem to make the big impact plays in the big games, i prefer keeping CGJ and we cant keep both and have $30 million plus cap tied up in two safeties long term.

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Especially since he's just getting to his prime years.

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Davenport, but I want him enclosed in bubble wrap from now until training camp.

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Sounds vaguely familiar the “ The Bill O ‘Brien” clear out all talent have dumpster fire of lower skilled players left with lots of draft picks and build thru the draft. Top Free agents have avoided teams like Texans, Jets NY Giants Jacksonville because of their dysfunction and depending on your draft class as the vehicle to get you contenting is 50/50 at best.
Keeping the core of your talent by push some money to future years with current contracts knowing the given expansion of the yearly cap number.

As the team move forward I feel the Over Cap number will probably never disappear but be reduced to a point it is not a factor of consequence on how the team address areas of need.

Not a GM but I have been on the side that all these number were a concern for me, but like it or not they have made it work year end and year out. Our record this year had nothing to do with cap money it was all about untimely injuries, multiple injures to the point people off the street where in uniform and playing on Sunday. We had more depth than most teams but how do you begin to overcome the injuries to starting and backup QB’s, Covid game with 22 players missing.

We will get a starting QB this year, we will get new talent at wide receiver, Oline, three positions of concern that need to be address. Armstead will more than like be resigned with Landon Young hopefully able to eventually takeover that position. Free agent guard, Ruiz is not starting material.

Looking forward to 2022 season as much as I did the 1967 season in Tulane Satdium. :bng:

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Latest status of the Saints’ injured players following the 2021 season

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Davenport and CGJ are the heart of stabilizing the D for the future.

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This. You don’t let a talent like Marcus Williams walk. You retain that continuity and show players within your organization and at others that you reward players for high quality play. The old adage was that the Saints and Benson didn’t want to pay players. You don’t want that reputation, especially with players feeling more empowered than ever before. Pay Williams.

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Kat Terrell posted a bit on that yesterday on The Athletic, but this is all I could copy before the paywall came up. Here's the link if anyone wants to pay and get the rest.

Latest status of the Saints’ injured players following the 2021 season

The New Orleans Saints went through the wringer this season in terms of player availability due to injuries and COVID-19, starting an NFL-record 58 players.

The season is over, but a number of lingering questions remain regarding the status of their injured players, most notably at quarterback, offensive line and wide receiver.

More injury updates will trickle out over the next few months as players decide to get surgery (including players who played through injury), take stock of their 2022 plans and figure out how to proceed. It’s possible that players nobody knew were injured will have cleanup surgeries in the spring, which is common every offseason.

Here’s what we know about the status of several injured players right now:

Quarterbacks

Jameis Winston: Torn ACL (Oct. 31)

Winston tore his left ACL (and damaged his left MCL) in Week 8 against the Buccaneers after his leg planted awkwardly due to a hit by linebacker Devin White.

While recovery timetables differ for everyone, there are many examples of quick returns from notable players. Running back Adrian Peterson, with the Vikings at the time, is probably the gold standard in that regard, returning to the field in eight months from an MCL and ACL tear to rush for more than 2,000 yards in the 2012 season.

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You mean through training camp

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So, a vote of neither. Thanks for input

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Absolutely rezburna resign Marcus try work a deal to keep Kwon … try to negotiate a concession with Jenkins … what the heck keep everybody and let the dogs run.

Not sure we should pay to keep Roby with the way Adebo came on.

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Davenport.

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Roby can go. I’m not opposed to Crawley holding that back up spot down.

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You’d rather have Ken Crawley over Roby?

Careful here …

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I think Rez and WW_Who_Dat were referring to the cap hit for a backup. Roby carries a $10 million plus cap hit as compared to $920K which Crawley cost us in 2021. Roby only started one game.

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Here's one on the Taysom Hill Lisfranc injury ...

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qb.

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Good point