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AsylumGuido 06-23-2022 09:32 AM
Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 953969)
Would that hit be for next year’s cap out of curiosity Major?
If traded the following would apply via spotrac ...

Post June 1 Trade

2022 Dead Cap: $11,813,000
2023 Dead Cap: $25,452,000
2022 Cap Savings: $1,235,000

In other words, as Major_K pointed out to mapcow, that isn't going to happen.

rezburna 06-23-2022 09:45 AM
Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
After all these short clips I've seen he doesn't look great. I'm trying to remain optimistic about his return but I'm growing more and more concerned. This gap in his career has me wondering if he'll ever be the same. I need to see more.

Boston Saint 06-23-2022 10:01 AM
Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 953971)
If traded the following would apply via spotrac ...

Post June 1 Trade

2022 Dead Cap: $11,813,000
2023 Dead Cap: $25,452,000
2022 Cap Savings: $1,235,000

In other words, as Major_K pointed out to mapcow, that isn't going to happen.
Well, trading him for say a first round pick next year would mean his roughly 23 million dead money next year would be offset by a rookie contract for that draft pick. The team already lost a first rounder next year, so this trade would mean only one first rounder needs to be fit under the cap. Aren’t you the one who says the cap is going to keep going up each year?

I’m NOT advocating for it, but I believe Loomis and co could figure out how
to eat that with the offset of a rookie contract AND not having a big dollar QB contract to worry about. Sign Winston to a friendly extension or spend that pick on your future QB and you are there. It’s only a one-year hit.

Just speculation.

K Major 06-23-2022 10:10 AM
Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 953973)

I’m NOT advocating for it, but I believe Loomis and co could figure out how
to eat that with the offset of a rookie contract AND not having a big dollar QB contract to worry about. Sign Winston to a friendly extension or spend that pick on your future QB and you are there. It’s only a one-year hit.

Just speculation.
+1.

Just thinking back to Saints "past", the closest situation (financially speaking) in any trade scenario for Thomas would be the fool Junior Galette. IIRC he received a significant amount of money, then the Saint's front office brass let him go later that summer.

But I feel the same as you Boston. Not advocating a trade but sometimes you just never know.

Meanwhile hoping for the best in MT's rehab.

saintsfan1976 06-23-2022 10:12 AM
Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 953972)
After all these short clips I've seen he doesn't look great. I'm trying to remain optimistic about his return but I'm growing more and more concerned. This gap in his career has me wondering if he'll ever be the same. I need to see more.
You sound like a rational fan. Same as most of us.

Juxtapose MT's track post injury to that of Taysom Hill and you can see why many feel frustrated by his perceived lack of commitment....

K Major 06-23-2022 10:14 AM
Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 953972)
After all these short clips I've seen he doesn't look great. I'm trying to remain optimistic about his return but I'm growing more and more concerned. This gap in his career has me wondering if he'll ever be the same. I need to see more.
Completely fair assessment.

99.9% of us (fans, reporters, Saints coaches/medical staff/doctors) feel this way.

Training camp is about a MONTH away, then it gets real :bng:

SmashMouth 06-23-2022 10:26 AM
Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 

SmashMouth 06-23-2022 10:31 AM
Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 

SmashMouth 06-23-2022 10:44 AM
Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
Think MT is feeling some heat?

AsylumGuido 06-23-2022 11:04 AM
Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 953973)
Well, trading him for say a first round pick next year would mean his roughly 23 million dead money next year would be offset by a rookie contract for that draft pick. The team already lost a first rounder next year, so this trade would mean only one first rounder needs to be fit under the cap. Aren’t you the one who says the cap is going to keep going up each year?

I’m NOT advocating for it, but I believe Loomis and co could figure out how
to eat that with the offset of a rookie contract AND not having a big dollar QB contract to worry about. Sign Winston to a friendly extension or spend that pick on your future QB and you are there. It’s only a one-year hit.

Just speculation.
Two questions ...

If Thomas is damaged goods as some surmise do you seriously think that he would bring a 1st round pick in trade?

If he was 100% ready to go why would the Saints consider trading him now when they can let him earn that 2022 salary this season and get the same 2023 1st round pick after the season without taking the dead money hit?


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