Possible Michael Thomas Trade?
 

Not a whole lot of substance, but an interesting theory.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/saints-...124505102.html


Not only is New Orleans $74 million over the salary cap with no clear-cut starting quarterback, but the team also just lost head coach Sean Payton, who resigned on Tuesday. With so much uncertainty surrounding the Saints, NFL Network’s Daniel Jeremiah recommended teams call New Orleans to gauge trade interest in some of the team’s expensive veterans. Twelve Saints have a cap hit of at least $10 million heading into next season. The Saints will undoubtedly have to unload some of those exorbitant contracts in order to get under the cap.

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Eh, this dude is acting as if the option of restructuring players doesn’t exist. We will have some cap casualties but Thomas won’t be one of them. If he gets traded it will be for other reasons.

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The Jets should not be desperate for a receiver. Elijah Moore has 100 more yards and 1 less teammate punched than Michael Thomas over the last 2 seasons. If they dont prefer Moore to Thomas they are idiots. All the talent in the world doesnt matter now that Thomas is physically and mentally unstable.

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I would do everything I could to try getting Bryce Young some how. That process starts now I think. I'd start accumulating draft picks via trades and package them into better picks... trade those off and try to get the top pick next year. I think it is doable. Bryce Young is going to be special. He is Russell Wilson 2.0. I think he's going to have everything RW has but better. I also think BY is more calm and clutch.

I'm sure MT's market value is at the highest right now because he was injured though. Give him a good year on the field, then trade him. Tanking for Bryce I don't even think is a bad idea. It sets your franchise up for the long run. Right now we are set up to be stuck in the middle for a while, and I don't like that. We need to do something drastic to shake us out of mediocrity.

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MT is gone. New coach will purge the problem children. We did just fine without him. One win away from the playoffs. MT would not have changed much.

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Personally, I'm tired of these extensions to players who don't deserve them or won't be performing at the end of a very long contract. Peat is a prime example. Cut tail and run I say. We need a younger team to stay competitive against the salary cap and on the field.

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Michael Thomas isn't going anywhere. It is both strategically and financially foolish to think of trading him. In trading him you lose an irreplaceable commodity. He's the best in the game at what he does. Also in replacing him you take on over $22 million in dead cap over one or two years with no corresponding return on the field. It's one thing to eat dead money if a player has no more ability remaining, but it is another to have that dead cap being wasted while the player is still in his prime on another roster. This is a business. The team doesn't care what some butthurt fans might feel.

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Mediocrity? We've won more games than all but one franchise over the past five years. How is that mediocrity?

:confused:

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Thomas and Payton....buh bye.... it was fun while it lasted. NFL will be non existent soon. much like the NBA and MLB..... yawn

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Agreed.

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Got his boy Taysom paid though on his way out

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Yes mediocrity. He said "set up to be stuck in the middle", and he's not wrong. He didn't say we've been in the middle for the last half-decade. Are you stupid or do you just like to start fights...or is it both?

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Yep NFL will no longer existent soon I guess you can tell that by how many people watch last Saturday and Sundays games.

Bills Chiefs - 51.7 million
Green Bay Dallas - 41 million
Los Angeles - San Fran 40 million
Cincinnati - Tennessee 30.75 million

Yep about roll up the carpet and turn out the lights 🤦*♂️

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9-8 is mediocrity. We don't have Brees. We need a QB really bad. Our players aren't getting younger. I think we need to start from the ground floor and build up again or we are going to be stuck in this phase. We need to find a QB and build around him. We may have to endure a couple of bad seasons. Without Payton, do you really think we are going to replicate the 9-8? Even if we replicate it, we are borderline playoff team with a very very small chance to win a title. We need to shake things up. You can't be eternally optimistic about everything. Sometimes you have to be pragmatic and approach the situation as it really is.

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Yup. Best viewing numbers in 25 years in some windows. Fastest growing sports product in the world and it's not even close.

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9-8 with the first full month being displaced by Hurricane Ida. 9-8 with an all-time record number of starters during a season due to injuries and COVID. 9-8 with the starting QB going down in the 7th game. 9-8 without arguably the best WR in the game and clutch placekicker for the entire season. 9-8 with 22 players out with COVID for a single game. 9-8 playing only seven games at home during a 17 game season.

Context is all important. 9-8 given all the team faced is far from mediocre. It is remarkable.

I respect what you think we should do, but I am relieved we have who we have making the actual decisions.

Who Dat!

:bng:

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You don't respect anyone - even yourself. So then we're not talking about the last 5 years? Nice deflection/shift.

Poor little speedo and his ego.

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You said the same thing about SP the day before he said he was stepping away. Forgive me for not taking your word for it.

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No need to. Go for it!

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Thomas and Payton....buh bye.... it was fun while it lasted. NFL will be non existent soon. much like the NBA and MLB..... yawn

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Michael Thomas is going somewhere, to the doctor when he is supposed to play and to the beach when he is supposed to go to the doctor. But it makes ‘strategic sense’ to extend him until he dies at 80 years old so that we never have to take a big cap hit 1 year until 2075 or so. Plus he has the talent that if someone invents an attitude and ankle time machine he can help us! That could happen by 2075!

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Looks an attempt at creating a Self Fulfilling Prophecy.

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It is going to be interesting to see if philosophy of the offense changes at all.

E.g the new coach not ignoring positions of need in favour of an UDFA

To be honest, I've always wanted to see what Pete Carmichael could accomplish without anyone looking over his shoulder. We got a glimpse of Pete calling 100% of the plays in a few games in 2011 and it was a beautiful sight to behold.

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So. We agree. TSK TSK Tsk:dunce:

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tsk tsk tsk..... :dunce:

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It's really like he can't wrap his mind around it. I'm not talking about the last 5 years, I'm not even talking about the 9-8 season this year. When I look at what we have, the cap we have, and just the big picture in general we are kind of positioned to be stuck in mediocrity. We aren't going to have the team we had this year next year. The cap is not going to allow it. We aren't going to have the coach either(which Payton imo had one of his best coaching seasons this year dealing with all the crap). We are not in an ideal situation and we really need to do something to shake things up a bit. AG is one of those guys that thinks you can still win a game down 40 points with 5 seconds left to go. He probably literally sits there and is like "come on... we can do this". He has a hard time seeing the writing on the wall and just dismisses everyone along the way.

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Well if you ask speedo the cap doesn't matter, but no reason to ask that idiot anyway.

I'm not happy Sean left, but I see it as opportunity. We need a fresh look at a few things maybe. I don't know. We have a find a QB that's for sure. I'd sell the farm for the right one. See Joe Burrow. :)