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Saints promoting Ryan Nielsen, Kris Richard, possibly as co-coordinators
this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by bobdog86 Possibly…. I just come from an era where you hire someone to do a job, they are then responsible for there successes and failures ….it’s not a village raising an idiot, the person responsible is held ...
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02-23-2022, 07:20 AM
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Re: Saints promoting Ryan Nielsen, Kris Richard, possibly as co-coordinators
Originally Posted by bobdog86
This hasn't changed. What has changed in coaching is the concentration of areas of responsibility. There were fewer coaches responsible for more things. Now there are more coaches responsible for less things each. The sum of responsibility is the same.
By the way, here's the Saints coaching staff from 1967.  This from Wikipedia ... Head coaches Head Coach – Tom Fears Offensive coaches Chief Offensive Coach – George Dickson Offensive Line Coach – Walt Yowarsky Receiver Coach – Bob Shaw Defensive coaches Chief Defensive Coach – Jack Faulkner Defensive Line Coach – Ed Khayat Linebacker Coach – J. D. Roberts Strength and conditioning Trainer – Fred Peterson Assistant Trainer – Bill Cuthbertson Equipment Manager – Charlie Shepherd Assistant Equipment Manager – Wallace Brown |
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02-23-2022, 01:46 PM
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Re: Saints promoting Ryan Nielsen, Kris Richard, possibly as co-coordinators
Looks like it is happening.
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02-23-2022, 02:12 PM
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Re: Saints promoting Ryan Nielsen, Kris Richard, possibly as co-coordinators
I never knew that Richard and Nielsen were teammates at USC.
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02-23-2022, 02:17 PM
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Re: Saints promoting Ryan Nielsen, Kris Richard, possibly as co-coordinators
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido
Because you hadn't found it on twitter I suppose...
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02-23-2022, 02:38 PM
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Re: Saints promoting Ryan Nielsen, Kris Richard, possibly as co-coordinators
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido
What do you think "Chief" means? The term is now Offensive coordinator or Defensive coordinator. I understand your the consument Polyanna of the group, and that's okay.......But come on quit beating the dead horse here. Your not convincing me
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02-23-2022, 02:45 PM
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Re: Saints promoting Ryan Nielsen, Kris Richard, possibly as co-coordinators
Originally Posted by bobdog86
The point I was making is there were only seven coaches back then. Staffs have grown to 30 coaches. Coaching is becoming more and more specialized. A corporation can have any number of VP's with different areas of expertise. A football team can have any number of DC's with different areas of expertise.
If both were doing the exact same thing I would see the problem. Obviously. But if each has their own area of responsibility what would be the issue? I believe you are getting hung up on the title itself, not the individual jobs for which they will be responsible. |
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02-23-2022, 02:53 PM
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Re: Saints promoting Ryan Nielsen, Kris Richard, possibly as co-coordinators
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido
The point you were making was irrelevant, as it typically is. And it doesn't matter anyway because whatever they do you'll sign up for because you don't have a brain...
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02-23-2022, 02:56 PM
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Re: Saints promoting Ryan Nielsen, Kris Richard, possibly as co-coordinators
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido
Please, please don't think for me or pretend to know what I'm "hung" up on. You like the idea....great, good for you...I don't like it. Your not changing my position, I'm not changing yours, which is fine. There is no right or wrong. We don't have 2 presidents just because one is better at something than the other, you don't have 2 Wing Commanders of an AF base....Just my position. I'm done responding to your position, let's just leave it there. I respect and appreciate your perspective, you just need to reciprocate. Peace and Geaux Saints!
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02-23-2022, 03:37 PM
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Re: Saints promoting Ryan Nielsen, Kris Richard, possibly as co-coordinators
Originally Posted by bobdog86
I guess I see Dennis Allen as the Wing Commander and Nielsen and Richard as Group Commanders. Oh, well. All a matter of perspective, of course.
But, I suppose you may right. There probably is some chance they don't know what they are doing. I suppose we'll find out the details of their plan later. By the way, were you USAF? My dad retired as the 2nd Bomb Wing Gunner here at Barksdale. |
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02-23-2022, 04:26 PM
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Re: Saints promoting Ryan Nielsen, Kris Richard, possibly as co-coordinators
Cam's working on getting the scoop. LOL!
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