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SmashMouth 03-08-2022 02:15 AM
TE Juwan Johnson re-signs with Saints
 

saintfan 03-08-2022 07:59 AM
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He flashed in limited play - in fact he's the only TE we have that flashed.

K Major 03-08-2022 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 946396)
He flashed in limited play - in fact he's the only TE we have that flashed.
IMO there were one too many healthy "scratches" on game day for Juwan.

Well Sean P is gone now so ...

K Major 03-08-2022 08:08 AM
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If there was any "splash" signing I'd like to see the Saints make, it would be going after Mike Gesiki (unless he gets tagged).

We need a legit, athletic, pass catching TE.

AsylumGuido 03-08-2022 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 946399)
If there was any "splash" signing I'd like to see the Saints make, it would be going after Mike Gesiki (unless he gets tagged).

We need a legit, athletic, pass catching TE.
The tag was brought up quite a bit yesterday concerning Gesicki. It seems to be the prevailing opinion.

jeanpierre 03-08-2022 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 946399)
If there was any "splash" signing I'd like to see the Saints make, it would be going after Mike Gesiki (unless he gets tagged).

We need a legit, athletic, pass catching TE.

AsylumGuido 03-08-2022 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 946411)
There it is. Official now.

MatthewT 03-08-2022 09:13 AM
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Saints need to stop playing with free agent TE's and find them in the draft. I do like the potential of Johnson and I believe Trautman still has a chance of becoming good. I would like the Saints to bring back Jimmy Graham if he becomes available, he could be valuable as a 3rd option and as a red zone threat.

SaintGnome 03-08-2022 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by MatthewT (Post 946420)
Saints need to stop playing with free agent TE's and find them in the draft. I do like the potential of Johnson and I believe Trautman still has a chance of becoming good. I would like the Saints to bring back Jimmy Graham if he becomes available, he could be valuable as a 3rd option and as a red zone threat.

This except the Jimmy G part

AsylumGuido 03-08-2022 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by SaintGnome (Post 946466)
This except the Jimmy G part
Yeah. I don't think Graham has it anymore. Brees and Payton made him what he was at his peak.

dizzle88 03-08-2022 06:32 PM
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Johnson showed way more promise than Trautman did.

AsylumGuido 03-08-2022 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 946471)
Johnson showed way more promise than Trautman did.
As a route runner, for sure. Then again, he was a WR first and foremost.

jeanpierre 03-08-2022 07:09 PM
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Juwan Johnson doesn't have the sand to be a Tight End, more of a big WR slot at best; and his effort blocking, as a WR or TE, is awful...

stickman 03-08-2022 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 946476)
Juwan Johnson doesn't have the sand to be a Tight End, more of a big WR slot at best; and his effort blocking, as a WR or TE, is awful...
If he is even trying to block he's doing more than Graham did.

turbo_dog 03-08-2022 07:12 PM
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I like this signing. He showed some promise in limited time. He's not a TE1, but definitely can be a mismatch at the position.

jeanpierre 03-08-2022 09:57 PM
Re: TE Juwan Johnson re-signs with Saints
 
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Originally Posted by turbo_dog (Post 946479)
I like this signing. He showed some promise in limited time. He's not a TE1, but definitely can be a mismatch at the position.
Agreed. Very much like Colston in the slot on the 3rd downs and red zone, useful in those situations, but also a limited ceiling of a WR5/6 if he doesn't evolve more...

Problem is, with Mike Thomas back, you'll notice most of Thomas' damage is done out of the slot on 3rd downs as well...

saintfan 03-08-2022 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 946473)
As a route runner, for sure. Then again, he was a WR first and foremost.
But wait a minute, after game 7 fishboy was lighting it up according to your own observations, and you said not a single word about Johnson.

I see the wind has shifted, and like a kite you have not choice but to change your tune. Lord have mercy you are a real piece of work little speedo... :rolleyes:

Crusader 03-09-2022 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 946471)
Johnson showed way more promise than Trautman did.
As a reciever.
The thing I like the most with Trautman is his blocking downfield. That is his strongest area.

SaintGnome 03-09-2022 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 946467)
Yeah. I don't think Graham has it anymore. Brees and Payton made him what he was at his peak.
Yeah, but more because it seemed pretty obvious that he quit on us in his last year when he lost his mediation to be considered a WR instead of TE. Low character.

AsylumGuido 03-09-2022 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by SaintGnome (Post 946592)
Yeah, but more because it seemed pretty obvious that he quit on us in his last year when he lost his mediation to be considered a WR instead of TE. Low character.
That wasn't HIS mediation. It was the NFLPA using his franchise designation as a legal challenge that they had been looking for as a challengeable situation for several years. It either had to be a TE versus WR or a DE versus a LB and his just happened to be the one that first fit the bill. His character had nothing to do with it at all. At no point did he ever personally claim to be a WR. Not one single time. It was all the NFLPA versus the NFL. He simply sat back and signed a deal as the TE that he always claimed to be as soon as the case was over.

I kept up with the entire case from beginning to end. While some people are into the draft and others into the combine and yet others are into free agency during the off-season, I have always been into the contract side of the NFL business.

saintfan 03-09-2022 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 946601)
That wasn't HIS mediation. It was the NFLPA using his franchise designation as a legal challenge that they had been looking for as a challengeable situation for several years. It either had to be a TE versus WR or a DE versus a LB and his just happened to be the one that first fit the bill. His character had nothing to do with it at all. At no point did he ever personally claim to be a WR. Not one single time. It was all the NFLPA versus the NFL. He simply sat back and signed a deal as the TE that he always claimed to be as soon as the case was over.

I kept up with the entire case from beginning to end. While some people are into the draft and others into the combine and yet others are into free agency during the off-season, I have always been into the contract side of the NFL business.
As I have told you many times over he could have stopped that whole mess any time he wanted to. Fanboys like you are blinded...or just plain dumb.

SaintGnome 03-10-2022 02:07 PM
Re: TE Juwan Johnson re-signs with Saints
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 946601)
That wasn't HIS mediation. It was the NFLPA using his franchise designation as a legal challenge that they had been looking for as a challengeable situation for several years. It either had to be a TE versus WR or a DE versus a LB and his just happened to be the one that first fit the bill. His character had nothing to do with it at all. At no point did he ever personally claim to be a WR. Not one single time. It was all the NFLPA versus the NFL. He simply sat back and signed a deal as the TE that he always claimed to be as soon as the case was over.

I kept up with the entire case from beginning to end. While some people are into the draft and others into the combine and yet others are into free agency during the off-season, I have always been into the contract side of the NFL business.
The point was he quit on us, doesn't really matter who initiated the mediation.

AsylumGuido 03-10-2022 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by SaintGnome (Post 946696)
The point was he quit on us, doesn't really matter who initiated the mediation.
Quit on us? That was 2014, right? He was targeted 125 times and caught 85 passes for a 68% clip that season, the highest catch ratio of his career with 100 or more targets. He scored ten TD's. He had 889 yards receiving, a number he only topped once in the remainder of his career (2016 with 923). I guess I missed where he quit on us. We did quit on him, however, when we traded him the following off-season. Seattle wanted him instead of Kenny Stills in deal.

I do know a lot of people were pissed off about the challenge brought about by the NFLPA blaming it on Graham instead, not that it made any difference.

Whatever, he's a shell of what he was with the Saints.

SaintGnome 03-10-2022 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 946702)
Quit on us? That was 2014, right? He was targeted 125 times and caught 85 passes for a 68% clip that season, the highest catch ratio of his career with 100 or more targets. He scored ten TD's. He had 889 yards receiving, a number he only topped once in the remainder of his career (2016 with 923). I guess I missed where he quit on us. We did quit on him, however, when we traded him the following off-season. Seattle wanted him instead of Kenny Stills in deal.

I do know a lot of people were pissed off about the challenge brought about by the NFLPA blaming it on Graham instead, not that it made any difference.

Whatever, he's a shell of what he was with the Saints.
I guess you did just miss it then. Toward the end of the season after the decision came down, I remember seeing game film of him giving up on routes and obviously not engaged.

AsylumGuido 03-10-2022 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by SaintGnome (Post 946704)
I guess you did just miss it then. Toward the end of the season after the decision came down, I remember seeing game film of him giving up on routes and obviously not engaged.
What decision are you talking about? The ruling on the franchise designation was on July 2, two months before the season started. I don't remember seeing him giving up on routes. His final three games were pretty decent. He was targeted 26 times and had 17 catches for 194 yards and a TD.

I suppose I could be wrong, but that just doesn't ring a bell for me. Oh, well. Not that it matters anymore.

MatthewT 03-10-2022 03:34 PM
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I made a comment about Jimmy Graham and I think what I wrote confused a couple of people. I said "I would like the Saints to bring back Jimmy Graham if he becomes available, he could be valuable as a 3rd option and as a red zone threat".

What I am talking about is bringing him back as a back up 3rd TE, and mainly use him in the red zone. I would never envision him being anything more than a part time specialty player at this point in his career.

I also found a couple of old articles that could shed some light on how he felt about being tagged as a TE, and the 3rd article is how it could have been interpreted that he may have given up on plays. I don't really recall at this point if he made so called "business decisions" in his final year or not, that is a very long time ago.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2014/07/02/ji...orleans-saints

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...eaving-saints/

https://www.canalstreetchronicles.co...end-roundtable

AsylumGuido 03-10-2022 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by MatthewT (Post 946711)
I made a comment about Jimmy Graham and I think what I wrote confused a couple of people. I said "I would like the Saints to bring back Jimmy Graham if he becomes available, he could be valuable as a 3rd option and as a red zone threat".

What I am talking about is bringing him back as a back up 3rd TE, and mainly use him in the red zone. I would never envision him being anything more than a part time specialty player at this point in his career.

I also found a couple of old articles that could shed some light on how he felt about being tagged as a TE, and the 3rd article is how it could have been interpreted that he may have given up on plays. I don't really recall at this point if he made so called "business decisions" in his final year or not, that is a very long time ago.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2014/07/02/ji...orleans-saints

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...eaving-saints/

https://www.canalstreetchronicles.co...end-roundtable
Yeah. That third article was written the Spring prior to his final season with the Saints, way before the NFLPA versus NFL deal ever happened. He had been labeled soft by some for years due to a perceived lack of physicality. He may have been soft, but he was the best in the game for a stretch.

SaintGnome 03-10-2022 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 946708)
What decision are you talking about? The ruling on the franchise designation was on July 2, two months before the season started. I don't remember seeing him giving up on routes. His final three games were pretty decent. He was targeted 26 times and had 17 catches for 194 yards and a TD.

I suppose I could be wrong, but that just doesn't ring a bell for me. Oh, well. Not that it matters anymore.
Agreed.

saintfan 03-10-2022 10:24 PM
Re: TE Juwan Johnson re-signs with Saints
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 946702)
Quit on us? That was 2014, right? He was targeted 125 times and caught 85 passes for a 68% clip that season, the highest catch ratio of his career with 100 or more targets. He scored ten TD's. He had 889 yards receiving, a number he only topped once in the remainder of his career (2016 with 923). I guess I missed where he quit on us. We did quit on him, however, when we traded him the following off-season. Seattle wanted him instead of Kenny Stills in deal.

I do know a lot of people were pissed off about the challenge brought about by the NFLPA blaming it on Graham instead, not that it made any difference.

Whatever, he's a shell of what he was with the Saints.
Question: Did the NFLPA FORCE Jimmy to do a damn thing?

Answer: Nope

Findings: You're as stupid now as you were then, maybe even more. Which is hard to imagine but it looks like its possible.

saintfan 03-10-2022 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by SaintGnome (Post 946704)
I guess you did just miss it then. Toward the end of the season after the decision came down, I remember seeing game film of him giving up on routes and obviously not engaged.
Jimmy's biggest problem, like speedo, was his ego. The difference is that today Jimmy openly confesses that and expresses his regrets. Speedo will never do that cause NPD.

Rugby Saint II 03-12-2022 02:21 PM
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JJ can be a productive #2 or #3 TE. He was an UDFA who is still in the NFL after switching positions. I'm proud of him. You go boy!

iceshack149 11-10-2022 01:57 PM
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Watch Saints TE Juwan Johnson's Wife Explain Why His Money Is Also Her Money
The wife of New Orleans Saints TE Juwan Johnson wants to explain to everyone why his money is also her money...
https://www.tigerdroppings.com/new-o...ney/105306640/

Thought I'd throw y'all a curveball with this one. Social media is doing a terrific job in exacerbating the demise of our culture.
This is why us lunch pail guys have it better than many celebrities.

mapcow 11-13-2022 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 946605)
As I have told you many times over he could have stopped that whole mess any time he wanted to. Fanboys like you are blinded...or just plain dumb.
:rofl: FANBOY!!!! fitting for guido :moon:

Rugby Saint II 11-14-2022 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by mapcow (Post 963172)
:rofl: FANBOY!!!! fitting for guido :moon:
Wow! Did he hurt your feelings?


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