Deshaun Watson to Saints?

rezburna · 03-18-2022, 10:05 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

I could not disagree more with your disagreeing more.

I would exchange Loomis, Harley, and Ireland for the Patriots braintrust in a heartbeat, they won 6 super bowls without blowing up the cap as much as we did winning 1. Yeah, they had Brady, but we had Brees too. We are set up to fail for years with Peat, Hill, and Thomas repeatedly restructured owing them all kinds of future money.

Loomis and his team may want to win but hey my daughter wants a pony. She can't afford one. We can't afford a receiver who is good and has played the last two years. Thats because Loomis' cap wizardry is a spell where we magically get under the cap by putting ourselves in the same mess the next offseason and losing a star every season like Hendrickson, Sanders, Williams, and maybe Armstead. Its a magic trick where he makes stars disappear and wows the crowd that SOME stars are still in place. Other teams are improving in the offseason, teams with better records than us, and we are not. Our only hope was trying to lure a big QB with the prospect of playing alongside maybe zero good receivers, no good TE, and a declining oline, while ignoring his past history of tearing both ACLS and maybe raping 22 massage therapists. Thats just desperation.
We have the cap to cut Peat as a pre-June 1 cut. Make that happen Loomis. Start saving for a rainy day not making desperation moves.

Loomis trades away all our draft picks because he does not have the cajones to try to draft more good young players and move on from mistakes.

What team isn’t losing stars from season to season? When the Bucs brought back all their players last year that was unprecedented. Brady was taking really team friendly deals for the Pats as they traded away and released stars because they didn’t want to pay them. Our QB ate up the cap and still has dead money on our books as I type this reply. This team has been BALLING year in and year out for a long time now. I’m not getting all the angst for the front office.

SmashMouth · 03-18-2022, 10:07 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

What team isn’t losing stars from season to season? When the Bucs brought back all their players last year that was unprecedented. Brady was taking really team friendly deals for the Pats as they traded away and released stars because they didn’t want to pay them. Our QB ate up the cap and still has dead money on our books as I type this reply. This team has been BALLING year in and year out for a long time now. I’m not getting all the angst for the front office.

Can you come in and contribute on a cheap veteran deal?

The Dude · 03-18-2022, 07:24 PM

Guarantee this dude is gonna take the money and run. Browns have shown that they let the players call the shots and basically anyone can just up and leave if they don’t like it there. He’s gonna pay off those lawsuits and split. Bet he’s not even in the league 2-3 years from now. I’m so glad we didn’t overpay for this guy.

K Major · 03-18-2022, 07:41 PM

Desean is a Brown now and the Saints still need a QB.

I'm not so sure Dennis Allen is all that fond of Winston as his starter in 2022 either. Maybe Dougie M puts in a good word on his former QB from Jacksonville - Gardner Minshew. He's fun as hell to watch that's for sure.

Not much left out there in Free Agency land for QB's.

rezburna · 03-18-2022, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Desean is a Brown now and the Saints still need a QB.

I'm not so sure Dennis Allen is all that fond of Winston as his starter in 2022 either. Maybe Dougie M puts in a good word on his former QB from Jacksonville - Gardner Minshew. He's fun as hell to watch that's for sure.

Not much left out there in Free Agency land for QB's.

Yeah. I don’t think Allen believes in Jameis.

TheOak · 03-19-2022, 04:23 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Yeah. I don’t think Allen believes in Jameis.

It very well could be the other way around. Sean was the driving force behind Winston as well as the QB developer and he’s gone which leaves Winston with Allen. Add to that the absolute sh1t show the Saints just put on chasing Waston which as a fan has me questioning whether we are the worse franchise for being stupid enough to go all in and not win.

We made Winston an offer, usually when a team lowballs a player the agent lets that get out if the player wants to go to the team. Then there is this from Winston after asked about the Saints offer, “I still view myself as a starter in this league and that's what I'm looking for." telling me he wasn’t offered starter money or money close enough to even negotiate. Or he just has no interest.

That front office pissed a lot of people off both on the field and in the stands this week.

RailBoss · 03-18-2022, 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Desean is a Brown now and the Saints still need a QB.

I'm not so sure Dennis Allen is all that fond of Winston as his starter in 2022 either. Maybe Dougie M puts in a good word on his former QB from Jacksonville - Gardner Minshew. He's fun as hell to watch that's for sure.

Not much left out there in Free Agency land for QB's.

Garner Minshew shades of..........

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lee909 · 03-18-2022, 07:50 PM

neugey · 03-18-2022, 09:48 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anezHFqr5Uk

saintsfan1976 · 03-19-2022, 06:59 AM

If we're willing and able to pursue a franchise QB, why not go after Lamar Jackson?

He's in his 5th year, due $23MM without a long term deal. Meanwhile Baltimore is spending like a drunken sailor. Are they building around LJ or Huntley?

I've been a proponent of Jameis since offseason started. I was wooed by the opportunity to potentially cement the position for the next decade. I'm happy we didn't sacrifice the world for him but it makes me wonder if the front office is done trying...

03-18-2022, 10:05 PM	#1
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,094	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Originally Posted by BakoSaint I could not disagree more with your disagreeing more. I would exchange Loomis, Harley, and Ireland for the Patriots braintrust in a heartbeat, they won 6 super bowls without blowing up the cap as much as we did winning 1. Yeah, they had Brady, but we had Brees too. We are set up to fail for years with Peat, Hill, and Thomas repeatedly restructured owing them all kinds of future money. Loomis and his team may want to win but hey my daughter wants a pony. She can't afford one. We can't afford a receiver who is good and has played the last two years. Thats because Loomis' cap wizardry is a spell where we magically get under the cap by putting ourselves in the same mess the next offseason and losing a star every season like Hendrickson, Sanders, Williams, and maybe Armstead. Its a magic trick where he makes stars disappear and wows the crowd that SOME stars are still in place. Other teams are improving in the offseason, teams with better records than us, and we are not. Our only hope was trying to lure a big QB with the prospect of playing alongside maybe zero good receivers, no good TE, and a declining oline, while ignoring his past history of tearing both ACLS and maybe raping 22 massage therapists. Thats just desperation. We have the cap to cut Peat as a pre-June 1 cut. Make that happen Loomis. Start saving for a rainy day not making desperation moves. Loomis trades away all our draft picks because he does not have the cajones to try to draft more good young players and move on from mistakes. What team isn’t losing stars from season to season? When the Bucs brought back all their players last year that was unprecedented. Brady was taking really team friendly deals for the Pats as they traded away and released stars because they didn’t want to pay them. Our QB ate up the cap and still has dead money on our books as I type this reply. This team has been BALLING year in and year out for a long time now. I’m not getting all the angst for the front office.

03-18-2022, 10:07 PM	#2
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,796 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Originally Posted by rezburna What team isn’t losing stars from season to season? When the Bucs brought back all their players last year that was unprecedented. Brady was taking really team friendly deals for the Pats as they traded away and released stars because they didn’t want to pay them. Our QB ate up the cap and still has dead money on our books as I type this reply. This team has been BALLING year in and year out for a long time now. I’m not getting all the angst for the front office. Can you come in and contribute on a cheap veteran deal?
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03-18-2022, 07:24 PM	#3
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03-18-2022, 07:41 PM	#4
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,830 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Desean is a Brown now and the Saints still need a QB. I'm not so sure Dennis Allen is all that fond of Winston as his starter in 2022 either. Maybe Dougie M puts in a good word on his former QB from Jacksonville - Gardner Minshew. He's fun as hell to watch that's for sure. Not much left out there in Free Agency land for QB's.

03-18-2022, 07:51 PM	#5
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,094	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Originally Posted by K Major Desean is a Brown now and the Saints still need a QB. I'm not so sure Dennis Allen is all that fond of Winston as his starter in 2022 either. Maybe Dougie M puts in a good word on his former QB from Jacksonville - Gardner Minshew. He's fun as hell to watch that's for sure. Not much left out there in Free Agency land for QB's. Yeah. I don’t think Allen believes in Jameis.

03-19-2022, 04:23 AM	#6
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Originally Posted by rezburna Yeah. I don’t think Allen believes in Jameis. It very well could be the other way around. Sean was the driving force behind Winston as well as the QB developer and he’s gone which leaves Winston with Allen. Add to that the absolute sh1t show the Saints just put on chasing Waston which as a fan has me questioning whether we are the worse franchise for being stupid enough to go all in and not win. We made Winston an offer, usually when a team lowballs a player the agent lets that get out if the player wants to go to the team. Then there is this from Winston after asked about the Saints offer, “I still view myself as a starter in this league and that's what I'm looking for." telling me he wasn’t offered starter money or money close enough to even negotiate. Or he just has no interest. That front office pissed a lot of people off both on the field and in the stands this week.
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