Possible Trade to #4 With Jets?

The Dude · 04-07-2022, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

It's only two first round picks. In 2022 and 2023 the Saints had 2 1st round picks. They still have two first round picks, just both in 2022 now. If they traded up into the top 10, which is certainly hope they won't do, then they get 1 1st round player for 2 first round picks.

Now presumably they lose the 2nd and the 7th they already traded. They may lose other lower picks. But trading a 1st round next year for a 1st round this year is a swap, not a loss of a pick.

SFIAH

The only real thing that bothers me about this trade is the fact we will be without a first round pick next year in a draft class that is supposed to have several good Qb options. As much as I admire what Winston has overcome I still don’t think he’s a long term answer. Maybe I’m wrong or maybe it’s part of their cap management plan by acquiring young players on a rookie salary. Winston develops them and then go for a Qb in two years when his contract is up. The timing would be right cap wise as you wouldn’t have to shell out as big money contracts within the span of two seasons. Assuming they all earn it.

lee909 · 04-07-2022, 11:28 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

The only real thing that bothers me about this trade is the fact we will be without a first round pick next year

They have a 1st of either the Raiders or Cowboys when one has a poor start to the season and panics to the fans clamouring for Payton

K Major · 04-08-2022, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

They have a 1st of either the Raiders or Cowboys when one has a poor start to the season and panics to the fans clamouring for Payton

Trust me, that’s been an EVERYDAY topic up here with Payton.

In a sense, I see Mike McCarthy and Payton as the “same” HC.

Something tells me when Mike is gone, Jerry and Stephen will hire from the college ranks. They’ve tried these old school guys and it hasn’t exactly worked out.

AsylumGuido · 04-08-2022, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Trust me, that’s been an EVERYDAY topic up here with Payton.

In a sense, I see Mike McCarthy and Payton as the “same” HC.

Something tells me when Mike is gone, Jerry and Stephen will hire from the college ranks. They’ve tried these old school guys and it hasn’t exactly worked out.

People are always talking about these "ties with Dallas". His family doesn't live there. His ex-wife used to, but she married some guy from the east coast. It's been almost two decades since he was coach with the Cowboys. I agree that the Jones' look elsewhere if or when the time comes.

04-07-2022, 04:48 PM	#1
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,060	Re: Possible Trade to #4 With Jets? Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL It's only two first round picks. In 2022 and 2023 the Saints had 2 1st round picks. They still have two first round picks, just both in 2022 now. If they traded up into the top 10, which is certainly hope they won't do, then they get 1 1st round player for 2 first round picks. Now presumably they lose the 2nd and the 7th they already traded. They may lose other lower picks. But trading a 1st round next year for a 1st round this year is a swap, not a loss of a pick. SFIAH The only real thing that bothers me about this trade is the fact we will be without a first round pick next year in a draft class that is supposed to have several good Qb options. As much as I admire what Winston has overcome I still don’t think he’s a long term answer. Maybe I’m wrong or maybe it’s part of their cap management plan by acquiring young players on a rookie salary. Winston develops them and then go for a Qb in two years when his contract is up. The timing would be right cap wise as you wouldn’t have to shell out as big money contracts within the span of two seasons. Assuming they all earn it.
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lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,875 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Possible Trade to #4 With Jets? Originally Posted by The Dude The only real thing that bothers me about this trade is the fact we will be without a first round pick next year They have a 1st of either the Raiders or Cowboys when one has a poor start to the season and panics to the fans clamouring for Payton

04-08-2022, 08:42 AM	#3
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,828 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Possible Trade to #4 With Jets? Originally Posted by lee909 They have a 1st of either the Raiders or Cowboys when one has a poor start to the season and panics to the fans clamouring for Payton Trust me, that’s been an EVERYDAY topic up here with Payton. In a sense, I see Mike McCarthy and Payton as the “same” HC. Something tells me when Mike is gone, Jerry and Stephen will hire from the college ranks. They’ve tried these old school guys and it hasn’t exactly worked out.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Possible Trade to #4 With Jets? Originally Posted by K Major Trust me, that’s been an EVERYDAY topic up here with Payton. In a sense, I see Mike McCarthy and Payton as the “same” HC. Something tells me when Mike is gone, Jerry and Stephen will hire from the college ranks. They’ve tried these old school guys and it hasn’t exactly worked out. People are always talking about these "ties with Dallas". His family doesn't live there. His ex-wife used to, but she married some guy from the east coast. It's been almost two decades since he was coach with the Cowboys. I agree that the Jones' look elsewhere if or when the time comes.