Re: Trevor Penning leaning into technical aspects of playing offensive tackle with New Orleans Saints
 

Here's the thing with Marrone... he's a proven OL coach and supposedly a very good one at that. There's more layers here.

This is probably one of them. Our scheme or lack thereof, plays a part in it as well. This isn't to shift blame away from Marrone. He's our OL coach so at the end of the day, he's failing too. Just wanted to point out that there's other factors in play.

Re: Trevor Penning leaning into technical aspects of playing offensive tackle with New Orleans Saints
 

Being an oline coach is not like you get your union card and then you are just good at it forever. The only thing that can really make someone proven is what have you done for me lately. Trends and schemes change, attention to detail sometimes fades, age plays a role, energy levels change. Marrone got head coaching gigs and failed. Its possible his confidence is gone. He doesn't have great talent to work with but practically everyone's PFF scores are down this year so its hard to say he is making anyone better. I don't think you can say he was good 10-15 years ago so he can't be the problem now. And in the end, the problem could be that most of our coaching staff was good 10-15 years ago and now they are all living in the past, putting their dentures in and playing the greatest hits out of tune.

Maybe Penning is a bust or maybe he will improve. It's possible that harming his gentle delicate confidence is not what made him play bad, maybe we benched him because we could not afford to keep giving him help and we needed our RB and TE to actually be able to run routes and we wanted to try to unleash Kamara and Hill. So if we benched him because the game plan didnt allow us to give him constant help, and we thought he needed constant help, and when he had to go in because of injury we decided to let him sink or swim not change the game plan, then his performance is not a regression at all its just the reality of who he is at this time. Besides, a 1st round OT has no business being babied to build up his confidence. If being benched does not light a fire under his ass, lets trade him to the Falcons for a 7th and get some sacks on Ridder. At this point Penning is not earning a secure starting job but will definitely get chances to play due to injuries, so its up to him to make the most of those chances, and the entire team will suffer if we set the example of babying one player.

Re: Trevor Penning leaning into technical aspects of playing offensive tackle with New Orleans Saints
 

Penning looks like a typical bully. He pushed around smaller players in college. Now he's getting bullied by players who have an attitude that they impose on him. Not a good look for the "Mauler".

Re: Trevor Penning leaning into technical aspects of playing offensive tackle with New Orleans Saints
 

Listened at a recent interview with Loomis in regards to Penning ...

I'm paraphrasing here but Mickey is saying he needs help with his confidence, being put in the right position & right development to succeed. He also stated "it wasn't his fault he was hurt".

Anytime a player is selected in round 1, my expectations is that they become a QUALITY Day 1 (see Olave) starter. Anything above and beyond is lagniappe.

I don't even recall seeing him come in on jumbo (heavy) sets.

Either Dougie Marrone has failed him or Trevor is approaching bust material. This will be year 3 for TP.

Re: Trevor Penning leaning into technical aspects of playing offensive tackle with New Orleans Saints
 

I heard it too. Mickey needs to give up the ghost because Penning is a bust and some of that is definitely on our staff.


Thinking we'll get something out of Penning after all this time is like me putting a McDonald's burger in the fridge for a week and thinking the microwaved version is going to be great.

Re: Trevor Penning leaning into technical aspects of playing offensive tackle with New Orleans Saints
 

McDonald's Burger being great would be a miracle in itself! Good one!

He was a project from Day One. I think Loomis & Co. fell in love with the tape of him manhandling D Linemen in his conference. He wasn't palying with the Big Boys in the Power Conferences and it showed. I honestly was holding out hope for him to be something special, but his footwork is atrocious and he will continue to get beat out their on Blind Side Island. Move along. Penning is NOT the answer.

Re: Trevor Penning leaning into technical aspects of playing offensive tackle with New Orleans Saints
 

He is is that freak kid you see in youth sports. Developed earlier and was stronger,faster than any kid around him. Then got put in with others who are as big and string but they also learned the fundamentals amd dint rely on physicals to get by

Stop jumping players up boards from pro days,combine etc. Who care what they can do in shorts. So what he's 0.1 seconds faster, that can easily be made up by reading the game better or lost because you can't do that in pads. Once your board is set at tbe end of the college season it should t change much bar injuries,or red flags in interviews etc

Re: Trevor Penning leaning into technical aspects of playing offensive tackle with New Orleans Saints
 

When we select linemen, we need to stop looking at raw abilities and idiosyncrasies that catch our eye. Scout the players that have the best technique. The best left tackle in franchise history, William Roaf, is still the model. Don't overthink it.

Re: Trevor Penning leaning into technical aspects of playing offensive tackle with New Orleans Saints
 

I hear Loomis is massaging a special snake oil on his ass that will make him a star.

Seriously at this point he is a longshot reclamation project like Kevin White. Keep him for training camp, make him fight for a backup spot, dont count on him for anything. He was named after what nobody should do with hopes on him.

Re: Trevor Penning leaning into technical aspects of playing offensive tackle with New Orleans Saints
 

Surprised there's been not much said about trying him inside to replace Peat.

Oh for the days of Nicks and Evans inside