It was a done deal ...
 

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So it will happen next year instead of this year and the Dolphins will have to compensate the Saints to hire Payton.

Better be at least 1 first round pick in that compensation. Should be two since that's what the Bucs gave up for Chucky years ago and he hadn't won a Superbowl yet.

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Do I hear three.... FOUR #1s... anyone?

Should be way more than a DeshaunW trade.

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Four it is! Sold! :banana:

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Sounds like the Saints would have already agreed to a single first.

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I’d be surprised if we get anything. Just wait another season or two and it costs nothing.

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I've got a question. Why would Sean Payton want to go to a team that has no first round picks for the next two or three years?

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Cuz TB was also going there? Until the deal blew up with the lawsuit... that's Florio's take. Where there is smoke there is fire?

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I'm really wondering about the future, say 2023. Why would Payton want to go to some other team that was trading away all their #1's for two or three years? Brady not involved.

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Coaching vacancies are unpredictable. There could be a bidding war next year where we get a lot of compensation or there could be scant vacancies and nobody is willing to trade much and offer an appealing salary and roster to Sean. It could be Reid and Belichick both retire, McCarthy has a mediocre season and the Dallas job opens up, and many other coaches on the hot seat are let go. Or it could be that many of the coaches on the hot seat improve enough to buy another year on the job, the coaches who have losing seasons are First year coaches who get a second year to prove or experienced coaches with just one off year, and few good vacancies materialize. The dolphins will likely give their new coach 2-3 years to prove himself. Dallas may want Payton, but maybe McCarthy will have a good year and get an extension. Payton would be most valuable to a team that already has a good young QB and needs a guru to improve their offense and can give up a 1st rounder because they can replace the pick in free agency with a good cap position.

Other things could happen to change Paytons value. New offensive styles setting the league on fire might reduce his value. He could have some scandal. If Dennis Allen does too good with the offense, it could make Payton look replaceable, or even unwilling to change with the times, though I will take it. Or offenses could trend away from running qbs and toward paytons style of offense and two young pro style qbs could face off in the superbowl with experienced coaches, making Payton look like the missing piece to other teams with young qbs.

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I was thinking earlier this week, if you told people Jon Gruden and Sean Payton would both be out of the league by next year, no one would believe you.

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This really makes me look at Sean Payton differently. He’s obviously been trying to leave for a while now.

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Same thought here. At least he continued to try to win while he was potentially considering leaving.

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True. He never threw in the towel.

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I am responsible for recruiting, training and building teams. I lead our go to market strategies and the execution of objectives. Throughout each I'm looking for new ways to motivate my people in a way that pushes them to realize the best in themselves.

I've followed Sean's approaches over the years and have enjoyed having him lead our team. From Bounty Gate to the Nola No Call - I can imagine just how tired he must have grown of "everything" over the past few seasons...

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Payton didn't stand a chance over the last ten years with Goodell having the ass for him. All these talented teams with one of the best QB's to ever play the game just to be stopped by missed calls, COVID, bogus suspensions, etc.

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I was planning on posting the same thought. Gee, you're awfully smart. :wink:

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Points to ponder

In the 2020 playoff game against the Vikings. Taysom Hill's 50-yard completion to Deonte Harris traveled 54.7 yards in the air, longer than any Drew Brees completion (by air distance) over the last 3 seasons, including playoffs. READ THAT AGAIN LET IT SINK IN

With under six minutes in the fourth quarter, Hill took a carry for a 9-yard gain to the New Orleans 47 on a third-and-1 to keep a drive alive. Two plays later, facing a second-and-5 at the Minnesota 48, Hill took the snap left and broke through a pair of tackles before rattling off a bruising 28-yard run to the Minnesota 20.

THEN

On the next play, Brees had the ball stripped by Danielle Hunter and the Vikings recovered to end the scoring threat and maintain Minnesota’s 20-17 lead.

Brees was horrible against Tampa Bay in his last game. Why wasn't Jameis Winston not given more snaps?

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There’s an argument to be made for having had Winston play more. I’m guessing Payton was playing the QB he thought best. If Cook doesn’t fumble the Saints win that game I believe. Brees didn’t have much more to work with in the TE/WR dept than what the team had last year.

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:bng::dunce:Kinda like Thomas

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I think Sean was trying to let Brees go out on his own terms.

And nothing I have seen from Tayson makes me feel better about him being in there. He could move better but not a great passer.

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Maybe that will unfortunately be part of his legacy stick. He did nothing to develop a young QB as a backup/future starter. He sure didn’t plan well for Brees replacement if he thought it was gonna be Hill.

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As for Brees going out on his own terms. You completely missed my point.

Brees went out without once feared arm. As you observed Hill isn't a great passer yet he did what Brees couldn't do for 3 years. Go deep.

Devry Henderson played with the Saints until 2012, and caught six 50-plus yard touchdowns from Brees.

In Two years Kenny Stills caught four 50-yard touchdowns from Brees.

Brandin Cooks caught seven 50-yard touchdowns from Brees.


Ted Ginn, who ran a 4.38 40-yard dash.

There is an entire five-minute video of Brees’s 70-yard touchdown passes, many of which are bombs thrown over the top.


At least he didn't go out "3 times" like Bret Favre with his last passes all being INT'S.