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SmashMouth 07-15-2022 08:19 AM

New report links Sean Payton to Dolphins, Chargers, Cowboys for 2023
 
Payton widely is believed to be destined to return to coaching in 2023. Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald, citing an unnamed source close to Payton, lists the Dolphins, Chargers, and Cowboys as teams that could draw Payton’s interest in 2023.

The source added the catch-all “among other teams,” so there may still be hope for the Panthers and other potentially interested teams.

The main factors for Payton are, per Jackson: (1) warm weather; (2) a roster that can contend; and (3) control over personnel decisions.

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SmashMouth 07-15-2022 08:28 AM

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SmashMouth 07-15-2022 08:34 AM

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K Major 07-15-2022 10:12 AM

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Here we go :rolleyes:...

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jeanpierre 07-15-2022 11:19 AM

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https://c.tenor.com/l_cLUiI1bNAAAAAd/days-dool.gif

Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 954789)
Here we go :rolleyes:...


Boy you nailed that one - Days of Our Lives...

SaintGnome 07-15-2022 11:58 AM

Re: New report links Sean Payton to Dolphins, Chargers, Cowboys for 2023
 
I'd wish him success where ever he goes, with the obvious caveat.

Rugby Saint II 07-15-2022 12:46 PM

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More speculation. :roll:

Boston Saint 07-15-2022 01:06 PM

Re: New report links Sean Payton to Dolphins, Chargers, Cowboys for 2023
 
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Originally Posted by SaintGnome (Post 954792)
I'd wish him success where ever he goes, with the obvious caveat.

It would be interesting to see if his future team ends up needing to deal with the same “hassles” the Saints did while he was coach. 🧐

bobdog86 07-15-2022 02:19 PM

Re: New report links Sean Payton to Dolphins, Chargers, Cowboys for 2023
 
one of the things he obviously wants is a certain amount of control....There is zero possibility Skeletor will relinquish any power, well maybe a little..but not the likes of which will pacify Coach SP.

AsylumGuido 07-15-2022 06:51 PM

Re: New report links Sean Payton to Dolphins, Chargers, Cowboys for 2023
 
I'm expecting both the Dolphins and the Chargers to have a decent amount of success this season. I seriously doubt either team would part ways with the current coach under those circumstances. Especially if it means giving up major draft capital. As for the Cowpatties, Jerry will never relinquish enough of the control to any coach to satisfy Payton's requirements, I believe.

CheramieIII 07-16-2022 11:23 AM

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He had warm weather and a roster that could contend, so I by did he quit?

Rugby Saint II 07-16-2022 11:25 AM

Re: New report links Sean Payton to Dolphins, Chargers, Cowboys for 2023
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 954810)
I'm expecting both the Dolphins and the Chargers to have a decent amount of success this season. I seriously doubt either team would part ways with the current coach under those circumstances. Especially if it means giving up major draft capital. As for the Cowpatties, Jerry will never relinquish enough of the control to any coach to satisfy Payton's requirements, I believe.

That would be two alpha males in the same room butting heads. I don't think that after working with the Benson's that Payton will agree to Skeletor's pressure.

rezburna 07-16-2022 11:37 AM

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I’m starting to dislike Payton.

halloween 65 07-16-2022 01:46 PM

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If Allen screws the pooch, he can come back here. Year off might be worth it.

SaintGnome 07-16-2022 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CheramieIII (Post 954831)
He had warm weather and a roster that could contend, so I by did he quit?

Well for what it's worth when Cam Jordan heard Sean was leaving his first comment was "Sean's leaving for a big market" or words to that effect. Miami, Dallas, Los Angeles are all pretty big.
Sean got us to the glory land and almost never in his tenure did we go into a game week without a realistic expectation of victory. No other HC in our history did the same. I can't be mad at him, but that's me.

Boston Saint 07-16-2022 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 954836)
I’m starting to dislike Payton.

I’m having the same vibe.

stickman 07-16-2022 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 954836)
I’m starting to dislike Payton.

Rez, I understand feeling that way... but, I'm happy with the job he did, so I don't see where I can do anything but thank him for his time and wish him well.

If he wants a new challenge, go get it. Best of luck when you are not playing us.

Boston Saint 07-16-2022 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by stickman (Post 954845)
Rez, I understand feeling that way... but, I'm happy with the job he did, so I don't see where I can do anything but thank him for his time and wish him well.

If he wants a new challenge, go get it. Best of luck when you are not playing us.

I’ll always be thankful Stick. I just feel he didn’t do a great job of preparing the team for the transition. Especially in the QB position. He waffled about Winston, he wasted time with the Hill experiment. He spent a pick on Book and then left. Maybe DA doesn’t like Book, but now he’s got him on the roster.

Just some thought.

stickman 07-16-2022 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 954846)
I’ll always be thankful Stick. I just feel he didn’t do a great job of preparing the team for the transition. Especially in the QB position. He waffled about Winston, he wasted time with the Hill experiment. He spent a pick on Book and then left. Maybe DA doesn’t like Book, but now he’s got him on the roster.

Just some thought.

I agree that he didn't do a good job of preparing for Drew's retirement, especially since he is supposed to be a QB guru. But, replacing Brees was never going to be easy.

Hoping DA learned some lessons on how to be a coach during his time as the Raiders head guy.

AsylumGuido 07-17-2022 09:43 AM

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Or, once again, this could all be the annual BS clickbait.

SmashMouth 07-20-2022 01:02 PM

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NOLA54 07-20-2022 02:27 PM

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I hope he goes to an AFC team. It would feel bizarre to face him with another team.

bobdog86 07-20-2022 03:12 PM

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His tenure will be hard to match, let alone top. There's a new sheriff in town and it's not Reggie Hammond, it's time to put our energy into the new regime. I thought we were in for darker times when Coach Mora's tenure ended but I digress.

lee909 07-20-2022 05:00 PM

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Just sign somewhere, i want the picks
Its pretty obvious he just did't fancy building a new team without Brees. Hopefully either the Cowboys fall apart or Miami fail completely and bring in Brady and Payton next year

AsylumGuido 07-20-2022 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 955032)
Just sign somewhere, i want the picks
Its pretty obvious he just did't fancy building a new team without Brees. Hopefully either the Cowboys fall apart or Miami fail completely and bring in Brady and Payton next year

The team is pretty well already built. I believe what his good friend Jay Glazer said about Payton being burned out in general over the past couple of years and was just wanting to take some time off. Arguably the Saints are in a better position than most any team he would be trying to rebuild after firing their head coach. I just don't see Payton as the type to run away from a challenge.

Honestly, I have a hard time seeing any team giving up multiple 1st round picks for Payton. If they want him all they have to do is wait until his contract is up.

TheOak 07-21-2022 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SaintGnome (Post 954792)
I'd wish him success where ever he goes, with the obvious caveat.

I hope he falls on his ***k unless he is with the Saints organization. :bng:

rezburna 07-21-2022 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 955038)
I hope he falls on his ***k unless he is with the Saints organization. :bng:

Yeah, I’m being petty about it too. I believe he quit on this team and this organization.

SaintGnome 07-21-2022 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 955039)
Yeah, I’m being petty about it too. I believe he quit on this team and this organization.

Of course he did, he quit football period.
I dunno man, we had him for 15 years and we enjoyed a lot of success, he left us with a team that can still compete... you are welcome to your own feelings I just don't understand the anger. If the team was gutted with no reason for a hope for this season I could maybe could see it but it doesn't look that way to me. He left us with a stocked cupboard and his hand picked successor looks like he's doing it right.

AsylumGuido 07-21-2022 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by SaintGnome (Post 955041)
Of course he did, he quit football period.
I dunno man, we had him for 15 years and we enjoyed a lot of success, he left us with a team that can still compete... you are welcome to your own feelings I just don't understand the anger. If the team was gutted with no reason for a hope for this season I could maybe could see it but it doesn't look that way to me. He left us with a stocked cupboard and his hand picked successor looks like he's doing it right.

Exactly how I see it, as well!

rezburna 07-21-2022 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by SaintGnome (Post 955041)
Of course he did, he quit football period.
I dunno man, we had him for 15 years and we enjoyed a lot of success, he left us with a team that can still compete... you are welcome to your own feelings I just don't understand the anger. If the team was gutted with no reason for a hope for this season I could maybe could see it but it doesn't look that way to me. He left us with a stocked cupboard and his hand picked successor looks like he's doing it right.

He “quit” football and within a few months is already talking about coming back and not to the Saints. So if you ask me he didn’t quit football. He took a break from football. What he quit was the Saints. As far as how the team is composed, I’d give Jeff Ireland and Micky Loomis just as much credit for that, perhaps even more. Sean Payton didn’t bring in Tyrann Mathieu and Jarvis Landry. Sean Payton didn’t get Jameis Winston to re-sign. Sean Payton has obviously been plotting his way out for years now. Thanks for the Super Bowl, but the moment he goes to another team he’s an opp. We can revisit a love fest if he gets inducted into the HOF as a Saint.

SaintGnome 07-21-2022 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 955047)
He “quit” football and within a few months is already talking about coming back and not to the Saints. So if you ask me he didn’t quit football. He took a break from football. What he quit was the Saints. As far as how the team is composed, I’d give Jeff Ireland and Micky Loomis just as much credit for that, perhaps even more. Sean Payton didn’t bring in Tyrann Mathieu and Jarvis Landry. Sean Payton didn’t get Jameis Winston to re-sign. Sean Payton has obviously been plotting his way out for years now. Thanks for the Super Bowl, but the moment he goes to another team he’s an opp. We can revisit a love fest if he gets inducted into the HOF as a Saint.

Well that's only 3 players you mentioned and one of those was only in the building because Sean brought him here. You don't want to give him credit for the rest of our roster that's your right but I'll tell you this if we had been losing he sure would have taken the rap for it.

rezburna 07-21-2022 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintGnome (Post 955061)
Well that's only 3 players you mentioned and one of those was only in the building because Sean brought him here. You don't want to give him credit for the rest of our roster that's your right but I'll tell you this if we had been losing he sure would have taken the rap for it.

Those three additions are the only reason we’re getting any respect from anyone. Take away those three additions and nobody is taking us seriously. The roster composition started to trend upward with addition of Jeff Ireland in my opinion. I wouldn’t call our success in the early years a result of roster composition. I’d give more of that credit to Drew Brees being who he is and Sean Payton being young and innovative. Neither of those adjectives can describe him anymore. I’m scorned fam. I am not pleased with how he exited or with these rumors of him going to other teams as soon as next year.

Boston Saint 07-21-2022 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 955063)
Those three additions are the only reason we’re getting any respect from anyone. Take away those three additions and nobody is taking us seriously. The roster composition started to trend upward with addition of Jeff Ireland in my opinion. I wouldn’t call our success in the early years a result of roster composition. I’d give more of that credit to Drew Brees being who he is and Sean Payton being young and innovative. Neither of those adjectives can describe him anymore. I’m scorned fam. I am not pleased with how he exited or with these rumors of him going to other teams as soon as next year.

I do like how you mentioned how he is op as soon as he goes to another team. Football is sort of a “if you are not for us you are against us” type business. It’s part of the reason I give “Pats” fans a hard time up here for still rooting for Brady. “He scorned your team” is my usual response to them. “How an you still pull for him?”.

AsylumGuido 07-21-2022 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 955063)
Those three additions are the only reason we’re getting any respect from anyone. Take away those three additions and nobody is taking us seriously. The roster composition started to trend upward with addition of Jeff Ireland in my opinion. I wouldn’t call our success in the early years a result of roster composition. I’d give more of that credit to Drew Brees being who he is and Sean Payton being young and innovative. Neither of those adjectives can describe him anymore. I’m scorned fam. I am not pleased with how he exited or with these rumors of him going to other teams as soon as next year.

Rumors are just rumors. Notice the "report" didn't quote Payton at all. It just mentioned some "unnamed source". No doubt writers are fishing for stories this time of year. Someone may have asked Payton if he'd consider returning to coaching. In fact, I would be shocked if he hasn't heard that numerous times. What would you expect him to say? "Sure. Eventually." How about with the Dolphins, Chargers, or Cowboys? "Who knows? Maybe some other team when I'm ready." Is there anything you would be looking for if you did decide to return to coaching? "Sure. Warm weather. I'd like a roster that could content, and I'd certainly like control over the roster."

rezburna 07-21-2022 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 955068)
Rumors are just rumors. Notice the "report" didn't quote Payton at all. It just mentioned some "unnamed source". No doubt writers are fishing for stories this time of year. Someone may have asked Payton if he'd consider returning to coaching. In fact, I would be shocked if he hasn't heard that numerous times. What would you expect him to say? "Sure. Eventually." How about with the Dolphins, Chargers, or Cowboys? "Who knows? Maybe some other team when I'm ready." Is there anything you would be looking for if you did decide to return to coaching? "Sure. Warm weather. I'd like a roster that could content, and I'd certainly like control over the roster."

That could most definitely be the case, but I have a gut feeling he’ll be back and coaching a team that’s not in New Orleans. If not one of those teams you mentioned, maybe one of the teams that drafts Bryce Young or CJ Stroud.

AsylumGuido 07-21-2022 03:09 PM

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I just don't see Payton wanting the poison pill of joining a team that has been bad enough to have just fired their previous coach and is trading away multiple first round picks for his rights. I could, however, see him waiting for someone like Belichick or Pete Carroll to retire once his contract has cleared with the Saints.

AsylumGuido 07-21-2022 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 955070)
That could most definitely be the case, but I have a gut feeling he’ll be back and coaching a team that’s not in New Orleans. If not one of those teams you mentioned, maybe one of the teams that drafts Bryce Young or CJ Stroud.

If he returns before his contract with the Saints is up he probably won't have a pick available to get anyone like that. The Saints will demand the current year's 1st, at the very least. Maybe when Arch Manning enters the draft in 2025, however.

rezburna 07-21-2022 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 955072)
If he returns before his contract with the Saints is up he probably won't have a pick available to get anyone like that. The Saints will demand the current year's 1st, at the very least. Maybe when Arch Manning enters the draft in 2025, however.

I gotta go on the record and say I’m not too big on Arch Manning.

AsylumGuido 07-21-2022 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 955073)
I gotta go on the record and say I’m not too big on Arch Manning.

Yeah. At this early stage the biggest thing he has going for him is his name. That's for certain.


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