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Like him or not, you gotta admit he's doing his best to be the leader the team needs.

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Being a leader is not always easy. In fact it is seldom easy. I think he has the leadership qualities necessary to be a good leader. But maybe he should cut down on the length of his speech so that the players can stay focused.

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Does that make him better than Aaron Rodgers?

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No.

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he may be selling, I still aint buying
looked scripted to me
throw twice as many or more td's than pics
show leadership in the huddle when it counts

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Yea.. No. I have been around leadership in many different environments in my life. That is not leadership, that is Winston trying to inspire.

I am not saying Winston doesn't have leadership in him, I am saying that isn't it. Leadership is not words, it is behavior patterns; that's some hollow Tony Robins BS.

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Well, consider this gambler…since in NO he has 14 TDs to 3 Ints. He sat quietly behind Drew and learned. He did not complain when he was stuck in a silly (IMO) battle with Hill as the QB. After (again) not having a full training camp he had the team 4-2 (i believe) and was ahead of Tampa when he got hurt. Now he’s working his butt off trying to get back from a bad injury caused by an illegal play.

To me that seams like more of a leader than a guy like Rodgers or Watson or a few other guys playing in the league. Only time will tell though.

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Bam! There you have it. Not every great leader is a rah rah coach. However, it helps.

I've been impressed with the different way that rugby coaches motivate by just being straightforward and matter of fact.

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Comeback POTY and MVP Candidate (He won’t win MVP because of politics/popularity). Brady will get it as a consolidation/retirement present.

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No way Brady gets it if they don't make the playoffs.

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I was totally against the Saints signing Winston from the start. However, I've liked everything I have seen from him since he got here. I have not heard any complaining, no dumb shenanigans, no trouble off the field, and seems he is respected in the locker room. Good job, Jameis!

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Just came across this tweet talking about the vast improvement of QB passer ratings after the age of 28 in the NFL. It was in reference to Dak Prescott, but our very own Jameis Winston is also just 28 years old and his career passer rating is 87.8, almost exactly that of Drew Brees at the same age.

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He has said and done all the right things on and off the field. He is projecting the persona and attitude of a leader. I will give him the benefit of the doubt until I see otherwise. I really hope all this translates into better performance on the field.
Sociopaths are also very good at convincing people they are the last person in the world that would be a serial killer.
I hope Winston gets out on the field and kills it but if not I think Andy Dalton has what it takes to get this team to the playoffs. We have done a pretty good job making this team very Qb friendly.

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Better than exactly what? Winston went 4-2 in 6 complete starts last year throwing 14 TD, only 3 INTs, with a 102+ passer rating. And this is with a receiver corps that is now #4,#5, and #6 on the depth chart.

I guess for some better performance on the field actually means "until he wins the team a Super Bowl." because that assessment doesn't seem to be based on any actual statistics.

If Winston does exactly what he was doing last year (and I don't think he will. It will be even better.) and plays 17 games healthy, the Saints will win the South and be a high playoff seed in the NFC in 2022.

So, exactly what kind of "performance" are you looking for?

SFIAH

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About the only thing more I can ask for is yardage/first down production from him and the receiving/TE group to keep
the chains moving and spell Kamara. Under 200 yards passing/game (which is what he averaged) isn’t gonna cut it in the long run. But, as you point out, the WRs were sub par last year (not
to mention TEs).

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Don't forget that only one offensive lineman played every game, as well.

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Payton was also being very conservative passing. It was obvious he didn’t completely trust Winston early in the season and wanted to bring him in slow. I think he was about to let Winston loose when Winston got hurt. I feel like what WE saw last year really wasn’t a true sample of what to expect from him going forward.
After seeing him play I still had the same questions as I did in preseason. Great potential and I like the guy, hope he’s able to put it together.

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I said in another thread, those stats aren’t as telling as they look. 200 yards a game won’t cut it long term. Payton had him on a short leash and we never got to see him in a situation where he had to play from behind. At some point during the season our defense is going to have a bad game. I want to see how he handles playing in spite of his supporting cast.
He’s not going to do exactly what he did last year, he’s a competitor and isn’t going to spend the season playing it safe. Even if he does there’s gonna games where he’s forced to have to take chances.
I like the guy and think he can do it but I’m not 100% sold.
Don’t put words in my mouth with that Super Bowl bull****.

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".....we never got to see him in a situation where he had to play from behind."

Six games and never had to "play from behind" You must hate the 72 Dolphins, Never lost a game!!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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We're going into year 3 with the continued "I just don't know if this is the guy." I just cannot see why people are not satisfied with the production that they saw last year. Why is it not enough to see that the Saints won 5 of the 7 games that Winston started, then proceeded to lose the next 5 games in a row without him.

What I saw of Winston that I liked last year was rooted in that conservatism. Specifically on 3rd down, taking off and running for the 1st down instead of trying to force the ball down the field.

I learned a long time ago in the Payton/Brees/Carmichael offense that once passing attempts got above about 30-35 in a game, that's when the offense got into trouble. So, if Winston remains conservative both in yards and attempts, that would just be fine with me. We have a top 5 defense. All the offense needs to do is not screw it up and turn the ball over. Winston was right on the money with that in 2021.

Trying to pressure Winston to be more than he needs to be is exactly what is going to lead to non-productive play. We don't have the defense that will lead to 52-49 final scores like back in the Brees days.

Asking for a lot more is a dangerous request.

SFIAH

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Some of us remember watching those games last year. We didn’t win because of Winston. Sometimes it was in spite of his decisions. Give us 9 or ten games in a row with MOSTLY good decisions- especially in critical situations and I’ll admit he has improved.

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All speculation until actual performance on the field this season, limited positive showing last season. Just like Thomas, let's see how the season progresses for Jameis. I am a fan, but also a realist. At this point, I only have my own thoughts, which don't mean diddly.

Asylum can put up positive quotes, not original(all Tweets) from fellow teammates all day long, not sure what that proves. Realistically, what are his teammates going to say, our starting QB sucks, we don't stand a snowballs chance in hell? The only time I have seen Saints teammates turn on one of their own, was a couple of seasons ago when they publicly criticized Brees.

Last season Jameis did appear to show restraint. There were times you could actually see him look down field and pump and catch himself from making a bad pass. He has tons of athleticism and determination, but his decision making at times is an entirely different story.

I hope to really be able to sing his praises as the year progresses. Nothing would make me happier!

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