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Boston Saint 09-09-2022 09:39 AM
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Yea sir but now we will hear nothing but Bills Bills Allen Allen Super Bowl Champ 2023 destiny all day every day.
Up here in Belichick land that would be awesome.

hitta 09-09-2022 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 957823)
Maybe ... It's still early, however .
I think Allen is more clutch than Mahomes and I just overall like him better. He should have lost to Allen last year, which I think everyone can agree on I just think the dude is good. He and Burrow are the two guys that will end up with more SBs than Mahomes(as long as the Bengals get Burrow some protection).

I think Winston COULD be good, but he has to find that middle ground in his game. When Winston was at Tampa he was way too aggressive with his throws. Last year I felt like he never got comfortable with taking the big shot as if he was afraid of throwing the INT. You can't play scared and you can't be a gunslinger. Winston has to figure out that middle ground. If he does he can rise up in this league. It's a mental thing with him. The light switch is either on or off. It's a fixable problem, but it's going to have required him to put a lot of work into it. I noticed this from the first time he touched the ball last year. We won because we have a really good roster.

BakoSaint 09-10-2022 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by hitta (Post 957874)
I think Winston COULD be good, but he has to find that middle ground in his game. When Winston was at Tampa he was way too aggressive with his throws. Last year I felt like he never got comfortable with taking the big shot as if he was afraid of throwing the INT.
Winston’s problem last year was Tom Brady’s problem in 2019 and may be Rodgers or Maholmes problem this year. Anyone would be tentative and mediocre when they don’t have any receivers who would make the team on the 2022 Jets. You can’t complete passes to your own positive thinking, you need actual receivers who get open enough to believe your eyes when it happens.

AsylumGuido 09-10-2022 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 957875)
Winston’s problem last year was Tom Brady’s problem in 2019 and may be Rodgers or Maholmes problem this year. Anyone would be tentative and mediocre when they don’t have any receivers who would make the team on the 2022 Jets. You can’t complete passes to your own positive thinking, you need actual receivers who get open enough to believe your eyes when it happens.
Now that I can agree with.

AsylumGuido 09-10-2022 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by hitta (Post 957874)

I think Winston COULD be good, but he has to find that middle ground in his game. When Winston was at Tampa he was way too aggressive with his throws. Last year I felt like he never got comfortable with taking the big shot as if he was afraid of throwing the INT. You can't play scared and you can't be a gunslinger. Winston has to figure out that middle ground. If he does he can rise up in this league. It's a mental thing with him. The light switch is either on or off. It's a fixable problem, but it's going to have required him to put a lot of work into it. I noticed this from the first time he touched the ball last year. We won because we have a really good roster.
I believe there is a common misconception here. It wasn't wasn't solely Winston himself that was the source of his aggressiveness in the passing game. It was more dependent upon two factors ... the result of being cursed with a historically sorry defense and an offensive philosophy that included taking chances with the "no risk it, no biscuit" approach. You have to be aggressive when you are always trailing by 14 points in the 4th quarter.

SmashMouth 09-10-2022 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 957875)
Winston’s problem last year was Tom Brady’s problem in 2019 and may be Rodgers or Maholmes problem this year. Anyone would be tentative and mediocre when they don’t have any receivers who would make the team on the 2022 Jets. You can’t complete passes to your own positive thinking, you need actual receivers who get open enough to believe your eyes when it happens.
Our WR room is the most talented it's ever been, and also the most talented JW has ever worked with. We ought to see something special this year .

Boston Saint 09-10-2022 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 957875)
Winston’s problem last year was Tom Brady’s problem in 2019 and may be Rodgers or Maholmes problem this year. Anyone would be tentative and mediocre when they don’t have any receivers who would make the team on the 2022 Jets. You can’t complete passes to your own positive thinking, you need actual receivers who get open enough to believe your eyes when it happens.
This and he was drilled by Payton to be careful with his throws so much it held him back. Plus, having the best receiving back in the game.

AsylumGuido 09-10-2022 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 957885)
This and he was drilled by Payton to be careful with his throws so much it held him back. Plus, having the best receiving back in the game.
That "best receiving back in the game" was part of the issue for some reason. He led the team in drops last season by a large margin with nine. I believe he had nine drops in 2020, as well.

rezburna 09-10-2022 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 957886)
That "best receiving back in the game" was part of the issue for some reason. He led the team in drops last season by a large margin with nine. I believe he had nine drops in 2020, as well.

His hands aren’t the best. I would say most of his drops are concentration drops though. I wish we had Reggie Bush in todays NFL.

AsylumGuido 09-10-2022 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 957887)
His hands aren’t the best. I would say most of his drops are concentration drops though. I wish we had Reggie Bush in todays NFL.
Yup. He's always looking to make that big play, which he often does, and takes his eye off the ball. Other players on the team with three or four drops on the season always catch the flack from fans.


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